Women voting for Labour?

[bearsbritches]

To wonder why women would be voting for Labour when they support trans rights over women's rights? I am concerned we are going to descend even further into all of this 'woke' madness and it is women who bear the brunt.

Starmer has back peddled on the self ID policy all of a sudden before the election, shock, but we can't trust that.

I certainly won't be voting for the Tories and can't bring myself to vote Labour for many reasons. Where does that leave disillusioned voters?

Yes I sure am. Are you a 12 year old or something?

Ha, cross posted with OP.

What a surprise.

🤣

Many have literally no interest in politics and just vote what their peers vote for.
Many have taken an interest in 1972 and voted the same way ever since
Many just don't want involved in all this trans debate
Many just want the tories out and that is the priority

Many reasons

Stupid? No. Paranoid? Most definitely.

@bearsbritches so what are the reform party’s policies on education ? Or the
NHS ? Or the criminal justice system ? Abortion ? Death penalty?

Ok, try this. Aside from policies on trans people, can you please tell us a single reason for Reform on women's issues? Just one single good thing they plan to do for women. Or the Tories.

Isn't it just?

Reform UK PLC is not a political party, it is the home of a bunch of dangerous, grifting, right wing nutjobs. If NF wins Clacton it will be bad news.

I've just had a read of their policies. Yikes! They want to kill off the NHS completely and hugely lower taxes without saying how they will fund public services... That will certainly benefit women... Still, it's lucky they're promising to "clamp down on wokeism" isn't it.

This !

‘Single issues’ like the basic rights and safety of half the population.

By ‘trans rights’ you mean penis where it’s not wanted. You mean men’s rights.

‘Aside from preserving women’s sex-based rights’ what are they doing for women? lol

https://www.reformparty.uk/education
https://www.reformparty.uk/nhs
https://www.reformparty.uk/policing#:~:text=Commence%20Zero%20Tolerance%20Policing.&text=Clampdown%20on%20all%20crime%20and,will%20get%20mandatory%20life%20imprisonment.

There you go.

It's very irritating when people assume you're a Tory if you criticise Labour. I don't see any reason why you should think OP is a Tory. There is nothing particularly Conservative about standing up for women's rights.

Like maybe quite a lot of GC women, I'm still wavering about who to vote for. I will not vote Tory, and I agree with the OP's points about Labour's likely gender policies (and am generally not very impressed with them otherwise). I will either spoil my ballot paper or hold my nose and grudgingly vote Labour.

Because sadly internalised misogyny and handmaidenry are very strong in a lot of women. If a party was explicitly stripping away the rights of black people no-one would hector them about ‘culture wars’, and/ or ‘think of the NHS!’. No-one would tell them they were selfish for not thinking of cost of living by, or for not being kind to their appropriators and colonisers.

Not one black person would vote for such a party. And many white people would be appalled and march and protest against such ‘fascism’.

But as always, when it’s women and their rights, they’re expected to suck it up, put themselves last, be grateful for crumbs and/ or genuflect before aggressive oppressors who put a dress on and declare themselves women.

It’s seriously fucked up. But if women weren’t going along with the disease of gender ideology it would never have taken hold. What can anyone do about turkeys voting for Christmas?

We don’t actually need to care. Women’s rights are a huge enough issue on their own.

If Labour cared about the NHS and the criminal justice system etc, why are they OBSESSING about pandering to men in womanface?

Ahhh, a Reform party representative perhaps? It's a new tactic but I guess it could work.

women's rights are a huge enough issue on their own

For you. Not for me.

But I don't see it as taking away my rights.
Also, if some GCs get their way you'll see trans men in women's toilets/wards/prisons. For people who want to keep men out of women's spaces that IS crazy to me!

Oh so I have gone from Russian bot, to Tory infiltrator and now I am a Reform rep.

But that's irrelevant to the OP's point. Many GC women will vote Labour on the basis that other things matter more to them.

I don't care what you are. I don't agree with you. I have my opinion and you have yours.