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General election 2024
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Will Labour pay Jnr doctors the ridculous 35% they are demanding?

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DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 29/05/2024 12:24

This is unaffordable and that is a fact
So what promises are the Labour lot making, that is if they have the time to discuss this other than what 's happening to Dainae Abbott

If us the taxpayers could afford the 35%, then I'd be happy to sanction the rise but we can't afford that

FIVE days of strike - this will have another massive impact on those waiting for appointments and those having them cancelled. The doctors knew what the pay and conditions were when they decided to take the job and the strikes should be outlawed. The police can't strike, the armed forces can't strike, so why are doctors allowed to strike??

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-69072640

Picket line outside St Thomas' Hospital London

Junior doctors call five-day strike just before election

Ministers accuse doctors' union of cynical tactics with walkout due to start on 27 June in England.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-69072640

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Destiny123 · 31/05/2024 06:50

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 30/05/2024 20:10

Yes, in any job, if I was not happy, I'd either put up with it and shut up or more like me and many others that have excellent skills we can adapt to many jobs, I'd leave, fact

Therefore, if anyone in any job is not happy, leave and get a job you are happy in, simples!!

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Doesn't really work when you work for a monopoly employer so leaving means emigrating if want to continue your career, which isn't the most straight forward plan

I certainly don't do this job for the money as I'd be long gone if I did, but I do find it a little grating when compared to equivs eg my partner in IT works about 12-15h a week for 3x my salary (vs my 48-65h weeks) and when looking at cleaners are on a few pounds an hour less/cash in hand (when I absolutely loved my cleaning job at uni and zero stress), vs trades on 5-6x my hourly rate, I do sometimes wonder why I'm so determined to stick in such a broken system that treats you so poorly

Alexandra2001 · 31/05/2024 07:25

Thingscanonlygetsunk · 30/05/2024 20:30

This is why retention is important.

In your police example the experienced older copper would know from that experience what in a particular situation would constitute reasonable force. Unfortunately the government in its infinite wisdom decided to let go of many of those experience officers as a result of its austerity policies. Some people are now surprised that the quality of policing has declined as had public and police officer safety. I gather the Tories are planning average cuts of 13% on non-protected departments in the unlikely event they win the GE. I can't recall whether policing is protected, certainly significant parts of the criminal justice system are not, which will only make the problems you describe worse.

not sure what you are saying I expect I am not alone in having thought that on this thread.

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There is no planned increase in NHS spending for 2024/25.

So any pay rises for any NHS staff will come from existing budgets, this seems to be the norm for the Tories, agree to a pay rise but it has to come from an existing budget = more cuts to services.

Protected budgets? well that never helped the NHS over the last 14 years, Healthcare inflation runs far higher than RPI, so protected or not, we all see real term cuts.

Sdpbody · 31/05/2024 11:42

NattyTurtle · 30/05/2024 22:49

I'm in - sounds like a lot of fun 😂😂

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You think that kicking Police Officers is fun?

Weird.

Thingscanonlygetsunk · 31/05/2024 12:16

Sdpbody · 31/05/2024 11:42

You think that kicking Police Officers is fun?

Weird.

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Who said anything about kicking police officers?

dollybird · 31/05/2024 12:31

Thingscanonlygetsunk · 31/05/2024 12:16

Who said anything about kicking police officers?

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Agree, it was kicking offices

MrsJackThornton · 31/05/2024 15:47

Sdpbody · 31/05/2024 11:42

You think that kicking Police Officers is fun?

Weird.

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You have missed the point, it was never about police officers

Zonder · 31/05/2024 20:16

Sdpbody · 31/05/2024 11:42

You think that kicking Police Officers is fun?

Weird.

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Why have you started suggesting kicking police officers? Is that something you do often?

Sdpbody · 31/05/2024 20:49

😂😂😂 sorry ladies, I may have misread offices for officers.

Churchview · 31/05/2024 21:36

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NattyTurtle · 01/06/2024 00:46

Sdpbody · 31/05/2024 20:49

😂😂😂 sorry ladies, I may have misread offices for officers.

Yes you did, I can assure you that I have never, nor will ever, kick officers 😂

Offices however are fair game.

cutefluffyunicorn · 01/06/2024 10:41

Undethetree · 29/05/2024 15:02

Fucking doctors, can't we just rope in some volunteers instead? There must be loads of people willing to have a go at a bit of heart surgery on a Tuesday night. Then all the actual doctors can move abroad which would also solve the problem of over population....so bloody simple really.

well, you know all these lazy layabout 18 year olds, who will be forced to volunteer one weekend a month to foster the national spirit....reckon they could get cracking on some triple heart bypassess and a bit of neurosurgery, or the odd hip replacement to get the waiting lists down a bit..... I'm sure there is a Youtube video somewhere they could watch......

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