Do you feel there will be an increase in illegal immigrants with a Labour government

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What is Labour's plan to stop the boat people? How will this stop those who want to come to England via channel crossings illegally??

What in your opinion is encouraging the boat/channel crossing illeagle immigrants to want to come to England even though they are already is a very safe and generous nation?

IMO, most that come to England now, the vast majority are young men looking for a better financial future. My opinion is based on the basis that if I was in a war-torn country and wanted to escape persecution etc. I would leave the country WITH MY FAMILY and would be grateful once in a safe country and not risk our helth/lift etc crossing the channel in small dingys.

So, do you feel that potential illegal immigrants are just hoping that Labour gets into power as they are seen as a softer touch??

We. ie my parents and siblings came to England in the early 60's from Asia via legal routes as England need workers - parents rented a room and built up their wealth from there.

FYI: If you go abroad, lets say to China/India/Newzealand/etc for a hols, fall in love with someone and want to marry them - just check out the criteria that you have to meet to sponsor a visa and then the massive costs for them to come over and then become a Brtish cotozen after 5 years of good standing - the person coming over is entitled to nothing other than access to NHS and this is allowed as the person/s coming over undergo strict medical tests - therefore very unfair on those wanting to come to England via legal routes

England needs skilled and unskilled workers and those who are coming over legally go through many tests before being allowed here and massive costs. It is very unfair to allow the boat people etc to settle in England when they have already entered a safe nation IMO

IMO, we created the stife in Afhghransatan, Libya, Syria and Iraq along with our boss the good old USA

People, and families do not help in war-torn nations and the very poor nations - most that come over illegally from the poorer, very poorer parts of the world pay thousands to gangs etc - Therefore, these people are not the real poor people who may be earning 50p a day for backbreaking work

I'm all for immigration - we too had considered the USA and Portugal but stayed in the UK. I welcome those who want to come to our country but in my judgement, these people must be scrended just like those people who come to Englland via legal routes

Have you only just discovered this OP?
Oh, you're in for a treat.

Why don’t you vote for reform UK love, they sound like the natural home for you. If you’re in a Tory stronghold constituency I actually really encourage you to. That’ll show them.

Reform stand no chance of getting into power obviously. And every vote for them is one less for Conservatives so great. But I worry not so for the longer term.

They do concern me, and I don't really want immigration concerns to be pushed aside as just racist, because that just seems to increase protest votes.

I didn't worry about UKIP and the growing protest vote for that either, but look at the damage that was caused. Without the pressure from them I doubt Brexit would ever have happened.

That is a factual comment. However, the puublicicity raised by the Tory BS to "STOP the boats" has resulted in the right wing rearing its ugly head

The worrying thing is that the Tories started the BS re "Rwanda" and everyone is on about it, especially after Little Rishi, twice came out of number 20 and "promised" that flights would take off last year and this year and "no one can stop " them

I am am genuinely worried that many will see england as an easy target if Labour gets in. After all, you recall Labours police on a nuclear deterrent until recently

No 10. FFS.

No, but even if there is, Labour would open up safe routes and actually process the claims instead of funnelling tax payer money off to another country or their hotel owning mates.

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Google it. All the detail is out there. It was announced about a fortnight ago

especially after Little Rishi, twice came out of number 20

You are just taking the piss now with the deliberate "mistakes".

I don’t disagree with you but I would say I’m not concerned about the influence of reform UK growing, as I feel the politics of racism and xenophobia has never left just become more mainstream.

I really struggle to sympathise with people who have been told that asylum seekers, refugees, trafficked people and healthcare professionals are the cause of all their problems and refuse to see beyond this issue. I’ve encountered this generational blindness in my own family, my grandparents came over on the boat from Ireland for work plenty of people would consider unskilled yet some of their children have decided no one else deserves this chance and that those that came after their parents are the cause of all their problems. I am very lucky to not live in England though, 18 years and 6 months was enough.

I'm enjoying them. The toys getting thrown out of the pram and the level of desperation in these threads is very entertaining regardless of the outcome.

Christ sake op you’re barely even coherent in what you’re attempting to say, sadly I’ve seen enough of your posts already to know you have a perfectly good grasp of the English language to not do this. Spell check or edit your posts please.

Or better still, stop posting this absolute nonsense.

If ever I get a new cat I’m calling it Puublicicity

No it will make no difference to what you charmingly call the "boat" people. They will still try to come, partly because, like any of us imagine, when fleeing a dangerous/awful life, you'd try to settle somewhere where you could at least speak a bit of the language. Lots stop in France actually. Many in Italy.

Under the Tories, since Brexit, legal immigration has massively increased, with the issuing of visas to Hong Kong citizens, and the huge influx of NHS and care workers from Zimbabwe, along with scientific staff from India. For those who voted for Brexit out of bigotry, the Tories have laughed in their faces.

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I think there will be an increase in illegal immigration under either party as i think external pressures are driving migration.

I think labour will work more closely with the EU and France to deal with 'the boats' in a way that is at least as effective as the tories but cheaper.

Yes, of course there will. There will be more legal immigration, too. A lot more.

Starmer, the ex-human rights lawyer, has absolutely no intention of trying to do anything to cut illegal immigration. It’s naive to think otherwise. He fully supports & believes in open borders & uncontrolled mass immigration. And even if he wanted to try to control our borders, his back bench MPs wouldn’t let him.

Can you back these assertions up with evidence?

ETA: you said on another thread you were voting Labour, so presumably you support this stance (if it is actually Labour's stance) ?

I've got the strong whiff of coordinated astroturfing. Tufton St is working overtime.

The quality of the AstroTurf is dire, though.

Yup. AKA astrobotting / astrofailing.

The dog-whistle is very loud tonight

This poster has started so many threads now but doesn't seem to have a clue about the topics they talk about

Utterly bizarre

Yes, I will be voting Labour. Despite its stance on immigration.

Maybe we could let@RogersOrganismicProcess 's new pussy Puuuuuuubcicityisitithingy go and wee on it?

Do what you feel is right

However, I am ld enough to know that almost anyone will say anything to get into number 10 unless you are a Liberal😂