Do you know people who will emigrate if labour win?

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This is making me all very stressed. Trying not to freak myself out over future socio-economic ramifications for the UK if there is a wider trend of “brain drain”.

Brother and BIL have both said that if Labour win they will be emigrating with their wives and children.

I’ve heard similar sentiment from others but assume (hope) this is hyperbole.

Just to say, none of the people mentioned are wealthy but just about comfortable. Both highly skilled and in demand internationally.

Thanks for confirming this. And that peoples level of education is NOTHING to do with what people vote for.

I see ANOTHER of my posts have been deleted. 3 in the past day. Someone is targeting me.

Time for a name change I think.

Bye bye from me under this name. 👋

The phrase that resonated with me was this. By some standards, we are apparently elderly as we are 67 and 68. But we are both fit and healthy in mind and body, DH works everyday, more with his brain than his body now, We didn't become parents until we were 43, because our lives were too unstable before that to take the risk. When DH has worked out how his company continues (we're on plan 97 already) we will retire. Our DC show no signs of wanting to settle down and breed yet. So by the time any grandchildren arrive we are likely to be closer to 80 than 70, so we are unlikely to be serious contenders for child care duty.

But it shows voting by education level🤨or am l mistaken?

you are not mistaken Arse.

Education likewise remains a key factor in voting intention, with people more likely to vote for Labour or a left wing party the higher a level of education they have.
Unlike 2019, however, Labour are favoured over the Conservatives at every education level. Among graduates – with whom they traditionally have an advantage – Labour beat the Tories by 55% to 13%, while among those with the lowest level of education (people whose top qualification is at most a GCSE), they lead by 35% to 28%.
While the graduate population of the UK is increasingly trending younger with the expansion of higher education, the preference for Labour among those with higher levels of education is not explained solely by their youth. Among Britons over 50, there is a marked increase in support for Labour among graduates (45%) compared to those without degrees (30-33%).
Across all age groups, the fewer educational qualifications a voter has, the more likely they are to vote for one of the two right wing parties. In some cases Reform UK has caught up with the Conservatives – they are tied with the Tories among under-50s who are educated to GCSE level or below.
In broader terms -

"Only the over-70s now tend to support the Conservatives, although even here just 39% say they will back the party. This is down from 67% in 2019, with Labour growing their vote share among the oldest Britons from 14% to 25%."
25% of over 70s will vote Labour.

I was involved with a study at my local university about Brexit.

They were researching for the government. They stated that Brexit was a vote of education level too.

Wales is consistently Labour

Demographics must play a role. Although if we get to the same demographics as Wales we may struggle to function, the tax receipts wouldn’t be high enough for the requirements

I think its really interesting. I think the YouGov info reveals that the differences from GE 2019 - although obviously we will have to wait and see.

@HeadDeskHeadDesk my parents, both born in the 1930s, both held jobs, as a pilot and an SRN paediatric nurse, which would require degree qualifications now. But in the late 40s and early 50s, they just began their training after leaving school.

Have there been studies as to why more educated people vote Labour? I mean, it would explain why the tories have worked so hard to fuck education.

It does always mystify me as to why wc people vote tory. Especially those who grew up in the 80s. People I went to school with, same background as me, voting for a gov that doesn't give a shit about them. It's as though they think that voting tory will automatically make them rich.

..And demographics

Otherwise why Wales? It’s not comparatively educated but it is lower socioeconomically

If Labour can get the U.K. to the same place they can have the same, there really will be exodus then though and people would really struggle

Do you live in Wales?

More educated is one side of the coin. There are millions of self-employed people and small businesses that would spit in your face if you suggested they vote Labour. They are the people who are always overlooked, and underestimated, but they employ about 60% of the UK workforce. Every genius idea for DEI just adds to their admin burden and hardens their animus to government. And every government risks meltdown if theit concerns are ignored.

I am guessing - and it is a guess - that graduates have a more diverse background these days. I am (again) guessing that the small group of graduates from say the 1950s tended to vote Conservative as you'd need to be wealthy to attend, as HE became more accessible then the graduate vote shifted left.
It might also be linked to life experience and the knowledge that there hasn't been and still isnt a level playing field. I dunno.

London and the SE are the main economic drivers

If we had Wales demographics across the U.K. we’d be in trouble

What about the NE, NW and SW? Or is it only Wales you are interested in?

Wales has consistently voted Labour and likely will continue to

It’s a good example of how socio economics align with politics

I am far from convinced that the Conservatives will hold the shires this time around.

There are various explanations from false-class consciousness to the working-class simply having no faith in any of the establishment and its institutions.

Personally, I think it's a combination of things not least that the broader Labour movement is no longer active in working-class areas.

Self employed. Will 100% be voting labour.

Honestly, I'm debating emigrating with my family regardless of who wins.

I’ll agree on that.

The UK is a shithole.

From the SW @Notonthestairs . The region does not vote Labour. It's never been industrial and always rural agricultural and small scale. It mostly votes Tory, or LibDem, because those parties traditionally understood rural businesses look at finances across a whole year. There is not a farmer in the UK who makes a profit every month of the year; the goal is to end up in profit after a year's cycle of planting, breeding and harvesting.

Obviously we have landslides that show a fair amount of people vote for both parties

An educated person can easily switch from the 1997 vote to the 2019 one

The vast majority of people who grew up here never will. The slight leftward drift in the SW is mostly the effect of well-to-do people who have moved here for the scenery and quality of life, who are desperately keen to be green. The rest of us just hope they will get bored here and fuck off back to Surrey.

I’m educated.

l voted the same (Labour) since l was 18. Incl 1997 and 2019. And all the ones in between and previous. I actually know no one who’s a swing or floating voter.