If Labour get in, will they reverse Brexit?

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I have no idea, so is it possible/likely?

I'm specifically thinking about free movement within Europe. At the moment its very hard to get a visa to move, permanently move, anywhere in the EU.

I hope so.

Brexit is the biggest mistake this country has made. I'd take having the euro if it meant we got the benefits back.

I wouldn't. Prices would go though the roof even more.

I just want visa agreements so we can move elsewhere.

@VeryGoodVeryNiceChickenNugget you can't have the benefits without also contributing something.

Sounds like a lot of people who voted brexit did so on the basis of the misinformation that was spread at the time

What's the plan for NI if we pull our of ECHR?

It’s not up to them. It’s not a case of saying we want to be in your club again.

I didn't vote to leave but we live in a democracy. They'd have to have another referendum and if the result was different then reapply to join the EU. The costs would be massive and we can't afford it.

Lol, thankfully no.

Norway is in the Single Market, being in the European Economic Area. Labour has ruled out membership of the Single Market or even a customs union. So we won't be like Norway.

Switzerland has a series of bilateral treaties with the EU. The EU finds these overly complicated and won't want to replicate them with any other state. So we won't be like Switzerland.

Labour's policy so far is a sanitary and phytosanitary (SPS) agreement , where the UK would stay aligned to EU single market rules on food and agricultural products, plant and animal health. But the EU will insist on oversight by the European Court of Justice. If a Labour government won't accept that, the deal is going nowhere.

Freedom of movement (of people) is gone.

That's because the reasons that people voted for Brexit were largely made up.

This was the Tories' biggest misinformation scam and unfortunately people fell for it hook line and sinker.

Yes I know they can have another vote. But they can't just announce that they are reversing the previous one

And UK citizens can move elsewhere, they just need to get a visa. If they fulfil the criteria for one of the various visas, that is.

Why would Labour not agree to overnsight by the ECJ? I woukd hope that would be an easy negotiation ( although Oven ready deal and all that) The EU offered us visa arrangements etc and we refused. I don't think Labour will be perfect but I do think they will he more open and less toxic and ideological on Europe.

You can move you just have to meet criterias and apply for Visas I definitely don't like that we are not in the EU but we are not "stuck"

Interesting

@LakeTiticaca yes they can. Referenda are always advisory. Parliament can not bind itself, so if the Lib Dems win the election, for example, and their manifesto states they will apply to rejoin the EU, then the referendum can be reversed if Parliament passes that legislation. Parliament is supreme.

Why would Labour not agree to oversight by the ECJ?

I suppose they might.

But they'd have to change their "Britain should not be a rule taker" stance first.

There's no sign that they will.

One of their flagship policies - VAT on private school fees - depends entirely on being outside EU (fees for education in schools, pre-schools and universities being exempt, by law, across the EU)

“This was the Tories' biggest misinformation scam and unfortunately people fell for it hook line and sinker.”

Not the Tories. The Leave campaign. Many Tories were Remainers and some Labour (including, probably, Corbyn) were Leavers.

It was, realistically, the tories who pushed to leave and who benefitted the most from this.

In reality, only those who can move for work or are very well off can move.

The health insurance costs and income requirements are too high for most people, a couple moving to France will need 3500 euros per month plus long term health insurance, which for the retired, is high, without sufficient income, you need 60k euros per person in savings.
For dependent children income required is 50% as for adults.

I hope not. I voted remain and was really unhappy that we were leaving the EU but it's been 8 years now, get over it. The EU is having all the same problems we are and in many cases worse, they're not immune. I'm sure people can argue about specific circumstances where we might have benefited from still being in the EU but equally there's been a lot going on where we've been markedly better off being outside it. The EU isn't some grand economic ideal, it's a flawed system with a massive vein of corruption run by extremely flawed people just like everywhere and everything else.

Labour announced early they would not pursue CU or SM, it was a couple of years ago now.

imo they’ll find it hard to get what they want without that kind of bump. The policies are tiny in budget terms and more for effect.

They can't, they don't have the power. Brexit, another money wasting pile of shite from the Tories.

Thank fuck they'll be history in 8 weeks.

No, unfortunately they wont, which is crazy when you look at their core voter base.

Labour voters on the whole, voted to remain.

I do think they need to have a very grown up conversation with the country about closer alignment with the EU such as membership to the SM and CU.

No, obviously not. And, don't forget, even though 48% of us voted against Brexit, 52% of the British public voted FOR it. That's how democracy works - you don't always get what you want.