How confident do you feel that the Tories will lose?

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Do you feel confident? Going off what I see on social media, there is no way that they don't lose by a massive majority.

However I worry that this is just a small snapshot of the public and is not an accurate representation.

It really wouldn't surprise me if we don't have a Labour majority.

What does everybody else think the result will be?

That’s not illegally avoiding tax though is it.

Labour were in power long enough before the Conservatives to get rid of that, had they wanted to.
They didn’t.

Well I suppose it does show the Sunak's are true conservatives by lining their own pockets with as much as possible.

You need to keep up with the news Clav.

& AR did not claim ignorance, she said she received tax advice and acted upon it.

Anyway, its done, she is free to campaign for a Labour win, Tories yet again, fail spectacularly, as they have on almost everything they touch.

Is Tony Blair a true Conservative?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58780559

Starmer has already admitted he can’t remove the Charitable status that he originally declared he could.

Still waiting for costings on the policy of tax on education to see if that will make any money.

As I say to my kids everyone makes mistakes, what makes them far far worse is lies and obfuscation. I’ve no idea if Harman accepted her driving ban with good grace or not but I think we could all learn from the Mother of the House as she steps away from politics:

‘One of the things I’m concerned about in this election is that we have to absolutely make sure what we expect from all the political parties: standards of civility and that we don’t drop to personal abuse and misogyny because that then radiates into every community and every home.”

Well my Dad always said he was 🤣

Alexandra2001
AR did not claim ignorance, she said she received tax advice and acted upon it.

She said she obtained tax advice only recently - BBC;

Ms Rayner acknowledged that she commissioned professional tax advice recently after the claims about the house sale emerged.

She said: "I was a home care worker, you know, I didn't have an accountant. I had, as most people would: you put your house on the market, you get a legal conveyancing solicitor and you get an estate agent.

Although I should point out that she wasn't a home care worker in 2015 - she had been a full time union official for some years at that point.

Angela Rayner really scares the Tories, doesn't ahe?

If they don’t have to pay, they don’t have to pay.

Im sure there are very few people who would happily voluntarily pay more in tax than they have to…..No matter what party they support.
Nevertheless.

Its a definite area all Party’s should consider as compulsory but none have enforced it.
Neither Labour or Conservatives.

I genuinely think she's awful, just crass and offensive.

As I said earlier, I think Starmer is a decent enough bloke. Corbyn may have been unelectable but he had my grudging respect for sticking to his slightly bonkers principles. Didn't mind the Milibands and Brown, really disliked Blair and Campbell (the David Kelly affair was appalling).

I'll never vote Labour but I can still respect some of their politicians for serving as they see fit.

Terrifies them. She’s an extreme example of social mobility, it scares them that someone born into the circumstances she was can pull themselves up into a position equal to theirs.

No, we absolutely have not.

The only occasion on which Labour had a poll lead anywhere close to the current situation was 1997. I should know, because I was a Labour activist in an important marginal seat at the time.

Yes she does. The life she’s had, she’s going to be radical. They hate her. This investigation was always a bit of shit flung at her by Conservative Central Office. They have built her up; and it sets a neat standard for a political party to investigate its opponents once in power. Stupid of them.

Lord Ashcroft certainly thought he could discredit her with his biography (for which he apparently did none of the research). Judging by the Amazon reviews he may have miscalculated.

I am 62 and will vote Labour. Never voted Tory.

I didn’t say all, frank.

I know and I wasn't accusing you of that. Just wanted to remind people that not everyone gets their crypto-fascist membership card on their 60th birthday.

Calling all Conservatives fascists is a disgrace. It’s really no different to the generalisation that you corrected.
But this is hate speech aswell

Very confident, the tories haven't given any real reason for anyone to vote for them, the thing of giving extra tax allowances for pesioners is only going to be worth around 28p a week, the national service thing is just so that everyone doesn't call out their failings on everything else. Labour are standing on solid policies, they have been honest in saying they can't cut taxes until the economy is in a better state. Business leaders are speaking out in support of what they propose & even people like Nigel Farage are saying they will win, the tories have failed on so much & wasted so much money.

I'm hoping they will be sat where the SNP sit now in Parliament.

So she should, coming from a home where her mum couldn't read or write, having a baby at 16, working in social care where she discovered the unions & becoming a rep. She saw how things like sure Start centres & Tax Credits helped the less well off & supported parents. Nobody can say that she hasn't any idea how the other half live, she has lived it herself.

And it’s made her ferociously bitter and angry. It comes across as uncontrolled and ill considered. The punishment politics and militancy is very off putting - yes.

Punishment policies? Militancy? such as?

Its funny that Tory supporters, are in awe of someone spoon fed and fast tracked through parental money and private schooling but the moment someone does it for themselves.. they get constant and unsubstantiated attacks.

I can’t be in awe of someone not fully in control of themselves or emotions in such an important role.