If you believe men and women can't change sex, who are you going to vote for?

[QueenofTheBorg]

Has Keir come to his senses or is he still insisting that some men have cervixes?

What's your view on who a GC woman should vote for?

I was peaked by the Dolatowski case. Lennon/Katy attempted to rape a child in the toilets of a supermarket in a town where I used to work.

A ten year old girl had to fight off a grown man, only to find that he was remanded to a young women's facility and then simply tagged and discharged to a women's hostel. Unbelievable.

From the next village, we had Andrew Burns/Obi Wan Kenobi/Mr Mighty Almighty/Mitzababy/Tiffany Scott who had stalked a 13 yr old girl from his prison cell trying to gain access to the women's prison estate by claiming that he was a woman. A move was on the cards until the uproar around the Isla Bryson case. He won't get his move now: he died in prison.

Sex offender/murderer Peter Laing/Paris Green from the next town over keeps shuttling between the male and female estate.

Privilege has damn all to do with this.

Labour. Well, actually, where I am Lib Dem probably as a tactical vote. I know that a man cannot change sex to be a woman and vice versa and am gender critical. I am also pragmatic. I want the conservatives out, and being gender critical is not the only concern I have about society/the country.

Still going to vote labour because that is the only way to remove the tories and I think it is very short sighted to vote on a single issue however strongly I feel about it. Spoiling your ballot or not voting will achieve nothing at all.
I think poverty, the nhs, housing, the whole infrastructure which has been destroyed by the tories is bigger than the gender issue. In a way I think to vote tory just because they are finally making some of the right noises after Cass would be letting men in frocks determine the entire future of the country and I won’t be part of that.
I want labour in power and then we will battle on about who is a woman.

Starmer is a slinky snake.

That's a bit extreme considering how much more worse politicians the country has seen.

Labour of course

Can you link to what she has said that has upset you so much?

Labour.

This Conservative government has decimated this country and done nothing for women and children. Nor have they provided any convincing leadership on the 'knowing what a woman is' front. It's been in their gift to legislate and provide leadership in this area over the last 14 years and, until they cottoned on to using it as a vote winner, they've done nothing about it.

Totally agree. You put into words exactly how I feel.

Thank you.

When one of the barriers to adult men being issued with female birth certificates is their wives knowledge and agreement, no i dont think its a good thing.

But, i acknowledge that lots of people don't give a second thought about the women involved.

I'm not upset?

I thought you sounded rather irate. What makes you think that she is beholden to 'conservative Christian loons'?

@SofaThrow there’s plenty she’s said. Key speaker at the National Conservative conference along with one and only Danny Kruger.
Controversially used the term Cultural Marxism which is oft cited in a conspiracy theory associated with the far right and antisemitism. Thinks the UK birth rate is declining because women are going to uni and not recognising the right time to have kids. Is very much in thrall of US evangelical groups that are anti abortion.

Oh dear

She is not against women being educated or working outside of the home. She’s done/doing both herself obvs!

Tories are pretty much a shoe-in where I am, so I'm voting for the candidate most likely to change that rather than the party I'd most like to vote for. It's tactical but it's the only scenario for me not to feel my vote is wasted.

🙄ok sure

If people here genuinely wanted to put a stop to labours tra, wouldnt it be a good idea to say that you want to vote labour, but are having doubts because of their policy on this one issue? Thats what other groups are doing.

If we had long threads of people saying that rather than "its not that important" , the labour party might take note. As it is, anyone from labour HQ looking at these threads will think that women are happy with their proposals.

Even influencing them to drop the idea from their manifesto would be positive. At the moment we are inviting them to include it all.

That might work if they were reading this forum or listening to women - they don't. Kier Starmer is snubbing Rosie Duffield. The Labour Party HQ have been kicking women out of the Party. There are women still in the party trying to change from within and getting nowhere, I don't think you realise how strongly the ideology has taken hold.

SDP, thanks to another thread here.
Starmer has been a massive disappointment. He says whatever he thinks someone wants to hear, never says what Labour will actually do to fix the mess the Tories have got us into, waffles in the most vague way imaginable, is insincere and weak.

Its taken me a while to get there, but i think Starmer is a believer in gender ideology. I also think the new batch of labour mps are going to be, too.

But starmer knows that its unpopular and difficult to justify, so maybe wouldnt promote it as a manifesto issue if he thinks it may stop people voting. Then theres a chance he'll leave gender alone and get on with needed policies.

One things for sure, if it is on their manifesto, they get a large majority, it'll be impossible to fight against trans policies being implemented. Lets hope its not on their manifesto.

Absolutely, this!

The Tory party as a whole don't give a fuck about women. Things are a shit show now and I dread to think what would happen if the Tory party won. It would be giving them Carte Blanche to sell off anything left to their mates and continue to line their own pockets while the general population will pay through the nose for their greed.

If people here genuinely wanted to use trans politics to persuade people to vote Tory, wouldn't it be a good idea to say they used to vote Labour/want to vote Labour, but can't because they think the leader is a gender ideologue?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/lee-anderson-tories-election-trans-b2282185.html

Okay I've just emailed my Scottish Labour candidate to ask if they are personally gender critical, mentioning the treatment of GC labour MPs. Let's see. They are a trade union activist and reading their about page I'd say they are not GC but let's see.

Sunak will have no choice. His party hate him. He's out the day after the GE, win or lose and Penny TWAW Mordaunt is the favourite to succeed him.🤷‍♀️

I understand the washing-up and imaginary thinking that Tory voters have around this issue, but it isn't real. If you are a "single issue" voter your options are:
Reform UK
The SDP
KJK 's Party of Women
The Worker's Party.

I'm not sure any party gives a fuck about women to be honest. I have been shocked at how much damage gender ideology has been allowed to do and can only conclude that women's concerns on this issue really aren't that important to anyone.