If you believe men and women can't change sex, who are you going to vote for?

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Has Keir come to his senses or is he still insisting that some men have cervixes?

What's your view on who a GC woman should vote for?

@DogsOnPatrol please can you explain how gender ideology has the ability to devastate lives of our autistic kids? More so than, e.g. insufficiently funded healthcare, school provisions, etc?
Genuine question.

Its getting into schools and healthcare and everything else. Figures show that autistic people are more vulnerable to gender ideology because they do often feel like they don’t fit in. Trans is seen as the ‘answer’ to them. When schools and mental health services and other medical professionals are going along with gender ideology for fear of being called transphobic, it’s frightening where it can lead. Blockers, hormones, surgery and wrecking families.

I have an autistic child, I know many parents of autistic kids that this ideology has already brainwashed. It’s frightening and it’s a real concern for me. We’re all entitled to have our views and vote for who we want. I’m undecided.

Conservative, but not just for this issue.

Labour and keep pushing back on this issue. Public opinion is turning and I don't think Starmer is stupid enough or cares enough to remain a die hard on the point, he's just backed the wrong horse. The Tories have done more harm overall to women and spoiling ballots/voting for minor parties because of one (albeit important) issue isn't worth risking that shower getting another term

When schools and mental health services and other medical professionals are going along with gender ideology for fear of being called transphobic, it’s frightening where it can lead. Blockers, hormones, surgery and wrecking families.

@DogsOnPatrol of course you are entitled to your view and vote and it's understandable that this is a concern for you. But all of the things you mention above have presumably happened under a Tory government anyway?

As have 10-year freezes on funding for SEND pupils, despite insane inflation. And more than doubling of the waiting time for someone suspected of being autistic to be assessed by a professional - in the last five years alone.

I guess what is surprising to me is that the issue of gender identity, although admittedly a valid concern for some people, could be seen as more important than some of the other very obvious current issues this country is facing. Including those above.

Autism wait times for assessment have increased, at least in part, due to the increased numbers being referred for assessment.

Agreed.

I know of a case where an adolescent girl - autistic - began to ID as a boy after being told that only boys could wear vest and shorts for swimming lessons.

The family protested and won -the stupid rule that required girls to wear costumes was rescinded and she was allowed to wear vest and swim shorts, but the damage was done.

@WearyAuldWumman it doesn't sound like she decided to identify as a boy because politicians were unclear on their stance on gender identity. It sounds like she did it because she wanted to wear a vest and shorts, and had understood quite literally, based on what she was told, that claiming to be a boy was the only way she would be allowed to wear them. The issue was the sexist policy.

Lib Dem (to get the Tory out).

But I'd vote Labour otherwise. There's more to government than this one issue. Sorry, but that's how I see it.

same

Labour because I'll never be a single issue voter no matter how strong I feel.

Miriam Cates is horrific. Her response to the proposal that MPs accused of sex offences were barred from attending the parliamentary estate was to worry about "vexatious complaints". She's also been backing erosion to abortion laws, such as reducing the time limit to 22 weeks and stopping women getting access to early abortion via pills without a F2F with a GP. Given the current state of the NHS, that means women not getting abortions they need quickly enough.

That's before you get on to her beliefs that the biggest threat facing the UK is our low birthright so women should be "encouraged to produce more babies", as if we were some kind of farm animals.

She's on my top ten of MPs I want to see gone at the next election.

I also don't like Badenoch but that's because she spends ages "mulling" decisions and doesn't do anything apart from writing argumentative columns for the Telegraph.

Posie Parker/Kellie Jay Keen's "party of women" also not great.
Her nominating officer is a guy called Paul Duddridge who lives in the USA and is a vocal supporter of Trump. His twitter is "interesting" https://x.com/PaulDuddridge

Paul Duddridge also left his partner and 2 week old newborn. I'm not sure why Posie/KJK decided he was a good person to involve, but he doesn't seem like someone who cares about women or about the UK.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12800469/amp/Inside-Annabel-Giles-turbulent-love-life.html

I'm voting Labour this time.
I did leave the lib dems over their stance on gender issues but the current Labour stated position is close enough to what I want (protect single sex spaces but also support grown adults to transition if they need to, without abuse).
They also have a lot of other women friendly policies so I'm looking forward to the manifesto

@KnickerlessParsons giving the right answers on the doorstep and actually giving a fuck are two very different things. The Tories have done NOTHING to improve women’s lives but boy are they cashing in on the gender wars 😬. Terrifying that women are genuinely thinking they’ll do anything to improve the lot of women.

Oh they're absolutely just doing this to win votes.

What I don't understand is why Labour is letting them do it.

Trans people are about 1% of the population. Women are 51%.

Why can't Labour just say, "A woman is an adult human female. The protected characteristic of "sex" in the Equality Act means biological sex, not legal sex. We will protect women's single sex spaces and sports. Trans rights are human rights, but women's rights are also human rights and we respect that."

Why isn't Labour the party of women's rights?

They have chosen this position and I don't understand why.

Labour.

Spoiling my ballot. Will never vote for the Tories but absolutely cannot and will not vote for a party in thrall to gender ideology. If they can lie about men being women and vice versa, I can't trust them on anything. They either believe it because they don't have any critical thinking skills (or maybe they believe it because they're stupid) or they don't believe it and are happy to lie to the country and gaslight women. Either way not to be trusted running the country.

Those saying it's a single issue - it's really not. It's woven into the NHS (eg single sex wards), social care (eg being allowed to state the sex of someone providing intimate care to vulnerable people), education (eg having teenage girls sharing toilets and changing spaces with male pupils), justice (male inmates being housed with some of the most vulnerable women in society). I could go on but I'd be here all night.

It's sheer fantasy to think that when Labour get in you'll be able to push for reforms. You won't. They don't give any more of a shit about women than the Tories.

I'm taking the decision to spoil my ballot from the position of being in a very, very safe Labour seat. If I was in a marginal constituency, I have no idea what I would do.

Forgive me Mrs Pankhurst.

Same!

I totally understand that.

However, the idea that one can legally change gender is one that politicians have facilitated, in the misguided notion that they're being kind. The school that the girl attends is rife with the gender nonsense which has been supported by funding from the Scottish Government.

The girl has now changed her name and even family photographs have been photoshopped to give the false idea that she has always been a boy.

There's also a high risk that Penny TWAW Mordaunt will be Tory leader before the end of the summer. Sunak is out the day after the election.

Absolutely. I can’t consider voting anything but Labour.

Do you think they will actually fix anything?

Right now Labour.

But I'll wait for manifestos.

It won't be Tory though.

She might become next leader of the opposition but not the next PM. If Sunak pulls a win out of the bag there's no way he'd step down. But even as LOTO Kemi Badenoch is far more likely to succeed Sunak than Mordaunt is.