If you believe men and women can't change sex, who are you going to vote for?

[QueenofTheBorg]

Has Keir come to his senses or is he still insisting that some men have cervixes?

What's your view on who a GC woman should vote for?

It is a MASSIVE thing.

@ValueAddedTaxonomy who is natalie

I am voting Labour - I also wear an Adult Human Female badge. I have been on an NHS waiting list for 5 years, I want to live long enough to debunk gender nonsense. Don't underplay the damage done to the material welfare of women and children under the Conservative government.

I definitely used to. Personally I now see the political left / right divide as two competing ideas about how best to run a country. I can strongly disagree with someone's conclusions on that but I wouldn't hate them over it.

Exactly. This idea that it’s ‘daft’ or insignificant is so shortsighted. I feel like I’m living that poem about who will fight for you when there is no one left. When they eradicate all rights women have by including males we are back to the law of the jungle. Women will get hurt, raped and more. Women will have no voice, no true representation in law or politics.

I can’t vote for that no matter what else is going on.

Conservative activists are going to jump on this issue on these boards as it's in many ways a "cost free" pledge: it's theoretical, doesn't cost anything (like trying to tackle child hunger would) and there are in fact Conservative MPs who are vocally pro trans rights (MP Dehenna Davison among others) so there is no guarantee that another Conservative government wouldn't further erode women's rights, while at the same time the NHS collapses, children go hungry etc.

I'm a woman and they've done shit for me

I'm happy to take a chance on Labour, and fight them on one issue, than continue with the shit show we have, or risk Reform getting in.
I feel slightly more confident regarding this as the tide appears to be turning and I think Labour will have to listen.

I am fucked off with how weak Labour leadership has been on this issue. Deeply fucked off.

I will vote for Labour, though. There is no other party I could vote for. We need the Tories out. And I live in a marginal seat that was won by a Tory by a whisker last time. My vote for Labour will count.

Keir better fucking well wise up if he gets in, though. I remain optimistic that he will.

Labour. I'm GC but I'm also terrified that the NHS will get worse and worse and if I need an ambulance for my child it won't come in time. Or that there won't be enough teachers and schools won't have any support for SEN kids. Those are more immediate issues for me.

Labour because this is way down the list of priorities for me.

I don't know.
I'm do know I'm not going to vote conservative. Everything else they do and plan to do can't imo be ignored.

Exactly. No one party will ever totally align with your values and needs on everything.
Also, I think everyone is getting a little wiser to this issue than a year or two ago so I don't think anything will come of it, policy-wise.

Exactly. As huge as this issue is, it cannot dictate a vote in a GE.

Labour. Anyone who thinks the Conservatives are better for women is seriously deluded.

Same.

I’m voting labour, or whoever is most likely to unseat our current Tory MP. The trans debate is lower down on my priorities list than the NHS, education, the welfare state and how the most vulnerable in our society are treated.

Same.

My MP is Rosie Duffield so no matter what I'm voting for her. I'm deeply concerned about what will happen with gender issues and women's rights under Labour but I'm more convinced that more years of Conservatives will completely destroy the NHS and make life so much worse for anyone who isn't rich, including me and my kids.

DH who has always voted Labour is so pissed off with Kier Starmer (not so much the gender stuff, more he sees him as a Tory in a red tie) that he threatened not to vote at all. We very rarely argue but I had an absolute screaming rage at him suggesting he wouldn't vote for Rosie. When she got in after a lifetime of Conservative MP in our area, he cried with joy and disbelief. I told him as Labour are very likely to get in anyway, it's even more important that GC MPs like Rosie keep their seat to try to keep fighting against the dangerous nonsense.

I don't care really, as long as we get rid of these idiots currently in power! So I'll be voting Labour.

^ This.

This is me - always a leftie but seem to be politically homeless at the moment.

Natalie Elphicke is now Labour - (with her spots still in place) so the party itself seems to have changed quite a bit.

The main thing for me though is the ONE issue. It is a huge thing.

If Labour get in would we be allowed to campaign on this subject or would women be silenced? (I am not being dramatic. Some of us have been completely silenced at work in recent years. It does already happen. We are not all as brave as Posie or JK Rowling or Alison or Maya)

Exactly my thought!

Labour. Our local Labour MP is GC.

I’m not going to base my vote on one single issue like this. Instead I’m going to take a broader and more balanced look at the main parties and then make my mind up.

no point throwing the baby out with the bath water, as my granny would say!