thread for people who have seen Star Wars - spoilers

[SouthWestmom]

So, we are all being v good on the other three but I am desperate to discuss it.
So, why do we think Luke had such a teeny role (not even a flashback) and was anyone else a bit disappointed by the lack of light sabre action?

WhyTF has C3P0 got a red arm? It's either going to be relevant later on or it was a pathetic way to give him an opening line.
Didn't get that at all.
Noeuf I saw your question about the old man in the first scenes in the other thread and I thought you were implying he was a known previous character etc and were quizzing us!
DH and I have been googling the character, the actor, trying to find some relevance, now I find out you were just curious!
Well he's not a previously known character by the look of it.
Completely loved the film, thought it was almost perfect. I adore Rey, want to be her when I'm grow up I'm 34, loved Ren although he has a touch of the Severus Snapes about him, thought Fin was excellent.
I also think Rey is Luke's daughter.
Still buzzing from it.
Classic FM had a SW evening it seemed earlier, with loads of pieces and comments by the characters.
Want to watch it again!

It's going to take me ages to forgive them for Han. Cried for ages, though I'm pregnant and cry at pretty much anything these days.

Agree that Rey is Luke's daughter and he left her on Jakku to keep her safe (which is weird and dumb but a tribute to ep. IV).

Loved the new characters and the sense of fun the film has. Rey, Finn and Po Dameron are great, and Kylo Ren/Ben Solo is an interesting bad guy.

Thought Domnhall Gleeson was immense as Hux. I've only seen him as Bill Weasley before this; what a different character!

Do hate the Supreme Leader. Think he's daft too.

Went to see it this morning and loved it.

I thought all the main characters were fab and especially loved the new ones.

I was v. Sad to see Han killed off. He was my first crush as a little girl which led onto my second crush on Indiana Jones. That bridge was a health and safety nightmare though - I'd have thought the designers would have insisted on some kind of safety rail.

I've also always thought that light sabres are a bit crap. There's a reason we don't use swords any more in modern warfare - you can kill with a gun from more than 3 feet away. If Rey had had a blaster she could have finished Kylo.

Well... she did have a blaster in the forest on Takodana, and didn't manage it

It's going to be hard to maintain the balance of good/ bad struggling in Kylo though, having killed his dad off alraeady.

Cashmere sorry, I couldn't work out if he was some obi type figure or just a random.

I have a theory that Rey is the daughter of Luke and the female in the first order, the woman who is made to let the shields down? Wears a mask?

Phasma? Played by Gwendolin Christie.

Yes, thank you. That's my parentage theory.

dontbuy I think the C3PO red arm thing is from a story in one of the novels/graphic novels. Den of geek mentioned something about it in their spoiler review.

Loved the film, thought it was a good mix of old and new. Agree Rey is likely a skywalker and R2D2 was a tad convenient! Loved BB8!
Did anyone else think Kylo Ren looks a lot like Snape? DH and I both thought so

Why does Rey have to be anyone's daughter? Previously when Jedi's were celibate they just travelled around the galaxy and found other younglings who had the force in them. Why can't that be the case with Rey?

Loved it!

Quick filler paragraph to stop next sentence showing up in the synopsis in "most active"... no spoilers that are inadvertently viewable.

Totally on board with the tragic death thing - I always felt Han and Leia had the sort of passionate sexual relationship which would burn out after a few years, rather than leading to happily ever after. (And my inner cynic thinks the financial backers said: "Look, the guy's in his 70s. Either we kill him off dramatically on screen in one, or we risk him dying in RL between episodes and having to come up with some half-arsed excuse no-one really buys for why he's not there... No brainer, guys. Script writers, it's our dollar, we say "jump", you say "how high?")

Thought Rey and Finn were great. Did anyone else get major echoes of Obi Wan in the way Rey flitted around the even newer, even bigger death star in her floaty desert gear? Was a little disappointed by Ren - the critics built him up into this massive, morally ambigous, brilliantly acted, conflicted bad guy, but frankly he wasn't a patch on Vader, and there was a slight hint of that annoying childish petulance which made Anakin in episodes 1 to 3 so bloody annoying.

The books were never going to be canon. I'm an old gimmer - 11 when Star Wars came out, actually still have my copy of the spin-off novel Splinter of the Mind's Eye which I bought aged 13, in which Leia and Luke get romantically involved... then along came Empire Strikes Back and it turns out they're siblings. So I learned 35 years back that the spin off novels have precisely no value whatsoever in terms of letting you know what is or isn't going to happen in the next film.

Dontbuy, for some reason I thought c3po and his arm was a continuation of something, but clearly I'm wrong!

I couldn't help being slightly distracted by how much Kylo Ren looks like Lawrence Llewelyn Bowen.

Also how bouncy his hair was considering it had been squished under his helmet. It should have been flat. But I guess hat hair isn't very menacing.

Ooh yes Strawberry he WAS very Snape-y!!

Heheh- I have Splinter of the Mind's Eye too!

Went to see it today - really enjoyed it.

I loved the fact that there were some proper laughs, it felt just like the first three (chronologically). I may have to go and watch it again in a couple of weeks.

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DH agrees that Kylo Ren is not good looking enough to be Han and Leia's child.

We both think that Rey a drop of golden sun is Luke's child. Why else would R2D2 wake when she was near, plus she could "hear" Luke/Anakin's light sabre.

The entire cinema gasped when Han died. I honestly didn't see it coming, although I really should have.

(DH also has the spin-off novels, he was wondering how many of them would fall "out of canon" like Splinter of the Mind's Eye did after Empire Strikes Back)

I think the light saber scene isn't far fetched at all. Kylo has had training from Luke, but we don't know how much combat training he got. Maybe he hasn't had any one on one fights in a long time (without stormtroopers to back him up) or even proper lightsaber training. He seems more interested in other aspects of his powers. Plus he was hurt pretty bad. Han comments several times on how powerful chewies wookie crossbow gun is, and how much damage it can do, much more than a standard blaster. Finn would have been trained in various weapons, there is a weapon the stormtroopers use in this one that is like a chunky lightsaber, but even with his injury Kylo still has the upper hand, until he faces Rey. She's already shown how good she is with her stick/staff. And we can't say she's never used a shorter stick in her hand sword style also. She is used to one on one combat. And her powers are, if not stronger than Kylo's, then better focused? You can see in the bit where he nearly has her over the edge of the cliff, how she lets the force run through her, and take over. Loved the red gleam in her eyes from his lightsaber at that bit.

Would be interesting if by episode IX, Kylo had rejoined the side of good, and Rey had turned to the dark side.

And I think Chewbacca snubbed Leia on purpose, maybe he blames her for Hans' death, asking him to try to bring Kylo home.

Went to see it yesterday - I loved it.

Anyway....

Was I the only one mentally screaming at Rey to use the force to nick Ren's lightsaber when the chasm separated them? I don't think he would have been able to build another. But then that would have ruined the next film I suppose

I am really not sure what I think about Rey's parentage. Jedi were supposed to be celibate hence the tedious hiding Padme scenes, and Luke never had any real involvement with women, apart from Leia, that I saw. So unless there is a massive backstory I think she is Han and Leia's daughter hidden to keep her safe when BenRen went off the rails.

I saw this yesterday and absolutely loved it!!! I definitely think Rey is Luke's daughter from what the alien lady said about the light sabre being passed on from Luke's father to Luke and now it's calling for her. I think that Rey was part of the Jedi academy hence why she may have picked up some skills. She also knew how to fly etc so may have been taught by uncle Hans when little . I then believe that Ren killed all the young Jedi's and killed Reys mum. Luke therefore hid Rey to protect her you see her being dragged away. Which is why Ren obviously seems very curious about the girl and wants to persuade her to join the dark side.

I also felt that Leia knew which explains the long embrace. How long before the next film comes out??? This is going to drive me crazy.

I mean why did Rey get sent to find Luke on her own???

Yeah- I wondered that too!

May 2017 for the next one though

I also wondered why Leia didn't go n the Trip to meet the brother she'd been looking for for years.