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The Bluestocking Pub, where we continue to read about gerbils nobly and bravely working undercover in the Fen.

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AsWithGlad · 20/08/2026 15:44

Welcome to The Bluestocking, the best (perhaps only) online women's pub. Nothing in the food or drink can harm you, everything is served by a very enthusiastic crew of gerbils, who enjoy doing this, and any curious menfolk are welcome at the Staunch Ally down the road.

Previous thread: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5564959-the-bluestocking-womens-pub-in-which-we-wait-excitedly-for-the-next-instalment-of-goseis-adventures

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MyrtleLion · Yesterday 19:07

And the image where for some reason we are all dressed in Victorian costume.

The Bluestocking Pub, where we continue to read about gerbils nobly and bravely working undercover in the Fen.
EmpressaurusKitty · Yesterday 19:17

Magpiecomplex · Yesterday 19:06

No reason at all in one case. Just an email saying "Hi can I reschedule". She'd already rescheduled once before, with an identical message. I don't want a student like that in my department, so I'm grateful she's ruled herself out.

Very helpful of her.

AnonyMumAuDHD · Yesterday 19:22

MyrtleLion · Yesterday 19:05

26. Saturday

In which nobody eats a terrible sandwich...

The Bluestocking kitchen had been closed to non-essential personnel since seven am.

This was Gourmet’s phrase, delivered through the hatch to anyone who approached, and its enforcement had so far turned away four gerbils, a patron looking for the milk, and Gasket, who had only wanted her own teapot back and had been told it was being used to hold the stock.

Inside, Gourmet, Grub and Gastronome worked at three stations with the calm of a field hospital. There were rolls in baskets and fillings in labelled bowls, and a list pinned to the cupboard door in Gourmet’s hand which nobody outside the kitchen had been permitted to read.

“Nobody,” said Gourmet, not for the first time, “is eating a terrible sandwich today. Not on my watch. Gosie spent three months eating egg that wasn’t even interesting egg. Priced,” she added, with feeling, “as though spiritual elevation were a filling.”

“Goats’ cheese,” said Grub, reading from the list. “Rocket. The good chutney.”

“Which good chutney?” said Gastronome. “There are three good chutneys.”

“The apricot one for the goats’ cheese. The dark one for the cheddar. The one in the unlabelled jar goes to @ErrolTheDragon, because Errol is the only one who can eat it without sitting down afterwards.”

The flasks were filled with hot chocolate in relays and stood in ranks on the side like a small silver choir. Grub counted them twice and got the same number both times, which she reported as a triumph, and nobody in the kitchen disagreed with her.

The bar, meanwhile, had become a marshalling yard.
“Scotland,” said @AngleofRepose, from behind the atlas, which was open at the map inside the front cover. “@SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius. Glasgow first.”

“And the island one,” said Wolef, winding a scarf. “The little cathedral. I’m doing the island one.”

“Take @Swashbuckled for Cumbrae,” said Marie de Gournay. “It’s not called the Cathedral of the Isles for nothing.”

“I’m already taking the galleon,” said Swashbuckled, who was by the door with a sea chest packed to a standard the room had learned not to comment on. “I have been ready to sail for forty minutes.”

“WHO’S GOT LIVERPOOL?” said Gantry, from the fireplace.

“Errol,” said several voices at once.
“Errol has got the whole northwest,” said Angle.
“Errol is the whole northwest,” said @Boiledbeetle, from her stool, and went back to her teacake.

Errol, filling the doorway and a certain amount of the yard beyond it, rumbled something agreeable that made the glasses ring, and three gerbils climbed aboard with a picnic basket between them as though boarding a bus they had used all their lives.

@FuzzyPuffling was not present, which surprised nobody, and had been assigned Cornwall. @ChristmasStars simply said, “Truro and Exeter are covered,” and everyone took it as settled.

The rest went in a rush that no minutes could have survived.

@Chickadeeinme and @RandomHypatia took the southwest from Devon to Bristol, on the grounds that Hypatia wanted to see a wall there anyway. @EdithStourton took East Anglia’s remainder with Brains and Batshit and a boot of provisions. @DauntlessDamson and @Thehorticulturalhussie took Yorkshire between them, exchanging the entire plan in about nine syllables.
@ifIwerenotanandroid took the south coast, @EmpressaurusKitty took Kitty and the Thames Valley, @Magpiecomplex took Kent because she was going there regardless, @NotAtMyAge took the East Midlands with a comment about longboat country that nobody pursued, while @RumNotRun took the West Midlands and @PastaAllaNorma took the Welsh borders.

@AnonyMumAuDHD agreed to the northeast. @MarieDeGournay took a list of the awkward ones, the locked ones, the ones with telephone numbers that rang without answer, and MyrtleLion stood at the bar handing out sunflower seeds for the journeys, ordinary ones, and saying nothing about the box with the hinged lid behind the bar.

Every group had gerbils. Nobody assigned them. They simply appeared beside the patrons in twos and threes, carrying string, spare pencils and in one case a folding stool, and it was understood that this was how it would be.

Glossy came out of the darkroom with a crate.

“Cameras,” she said. “One each. They come back to me and to nobody else. You do not open the back. You do not let anyone helpful open the back. If a verger offers to have the film developed locally, you thank the verger and you leave.” She issued them one at a time, checking each one against a list, and made every recipient repeat the part about the back before she would let go of the strap.

By eleven the bar was nearly empty, and the noise of it went out of the door, down the lane, and was gone. Gasket collected the cups. Angle turned the atlas to face the room, sat down in front of it, and stayed. Boiledbeetle emerged from somewhere with a stash of Tunnock’s teacakes and looked surprised to find the Bluestocking deserted

Gosie went to London.

Westminster Abbey on a Saturday was a queue, and then a slower queue, and then a density of people moving at the speed of the slowest audio guide. Gosie went with it rather than against it, the way she had learned to in three months of cathedrals and let everyone carry her down the nave, round the choir and out into the south transept, where the crowd thickened and slowed and tipped its head back, because the south transept was Poets’ Corner and everybody had come to look at the floor and the walls at once.

Gosie looked at the windows.

The glass above Poets’ Corner was a field of fragments. Deep purples and blues, greens shading to gold, small hot pieces of red and amber set among them, making a colourful display. And set into the field, on the diagonal, was a diamond of pale glass with a painted border, so the lozenge sat in its dark surround like a stone in a stream. Lettering in black across the pale ground. A name. Two dates.

Elizabeth Gaskell. 1810 above the name. 1865 below it.

Gosie stood in front of it for some time. She knew the name. Gaskell had written about the industrial towns, the mills and the people who worked in them, and had explained the working conditions in palatable novel-form, when it was not usual to write down such things.

She found the mark below the lozenge and to the left, at the height where nobody looks.

Not the Mark of the Margrave, but the older symbol, the curve with the trailing tail and the three diagonal lines higher on its arc than on the circle. Whole and bare, on a window only installed in 2010.

https://myrtlelion.substack.com/p/26-saturday

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Oh cool - I can subscribe in substack and go back to the beginning of Gosies adventures as I missed those!

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · Yesterday 19:22

So I am not a wolef in sheep’s clothing, @MyrtleLion, but a wolef in Victorian’s clothing - I like that.

MyrtleLion · Yesterday 19:32

AnonyMumAuDHD · Yesterday 19:22

Oh cool - I can subscribe in substack and go back to the beginning of Gosies adventures as I missed those!

I must warn you that the first 20 or so chapters of Book I are purely AI and in places quite difficult to understand. I will go back and rewrite them one day to make more sense.

I also plan to post Gosie's adventures in the south of France, as a bit of a prequel which led to a clarion call for more Gosie, and then a novella was accidentally written (about 35,000 words) and now we're deep into Book II.

MyrtleLion · Yesterday 19:39

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · Yesterday 19:22

So I am not a wolef in sheep’s clothing, @MyrtleLion, but a wolef in Victorian’s clothing - I like that.

I have reverted to the free plan on ChatGPT so I get two images a day. The first image was everyone as a gerbil, and @Hedgehogforshort eating Boily's Tunnock's...

That meant I could only reproduce it once more and had to post the ones in Victorian costume.

So I'm putting it here for your enjoyment.

The Bluestocking Pub, where we continue to read about gerbils nobly and bravely working undercover in the Fen.
NotAtMyAge · Yesterday 19:46

MyrtleLion · Yesterday 19:07

And the image where for some reason we are all dressed in Victorian costume.

I've just had my hair cut, so that's a pretty good approximation of me, Myrtle. 😊

Magpiecomplex · Yesterday 19:49

MyrtleLion · Yesterday 19:39

I have reverted to the free plan on ChatGPT so I get two images a day. The first image was everyone as a gerbil, and @Hedgehogforshort eating Boily's Tunnock's...

That meant I could only reproduce it once more and had to post the ones in Victorian costume.

So I'm putting it here for your enjoyment.

I'm trying to work out which of those is a magpie gerbil!

AngleofRepose · Yesterday 19:50

It's a Mission (Possible)! 😁I love the Camera Directive, and appreciate someone else who knows about proper cameras!

The Victorian outfits are not bad, either.
From the Monty Don thread linked in the last Bluey, I have found a dress that I am contemplating, but unsure if it's going to look too old-fashioned (but looks very cool and comfortable for summer, perhaps next summer):

https://www.bluebarn.life/shop/dresses/edwardian-style-dress-in-irish-linen

Whatcha think? Too flowy? Too much like I'm an extra in Sense and Sensibility? Or too expensive?

BlueBarn.Life

Hand-made clothing for men and women crafted in Dorset

https://www.bluebarn.life/shop/dresses/edwardian-style-dress-in-irish-linen

MyrtleLion · Yesterday 19:52

NotAtMyAge · Yesterday 19:46

I've just had my hair cut, so that's a pretty good approximation of me, Myrtle. 😊

I'm so pleased. I take no responsibility for how you are all represented because AI does its thing. I have previously asked it to represent Marie as a 16th century novelist and RandomHypatia as an ancient civilization philosopher and astronomer, but I was in a rush to post today.

The Character List just lists what you have done in both books, and says things like Boily hoards Tunnocks. It is actually very handy for keeping track. I also have a Knowledge Ledger to keep track of who knows what - Gosie, the Bluestocking regulars, the reader and me - and the open questions that haven't been resolved. And no-one but me gets to see that because it contains VERY BIG SPOILERS.

MyrtleLion · Yesterday 19:54

Magpiecomplex · Yesterday 19:49

I'm trying to work out which of those is a magpie gerbil!

I don't think you're in it, unless you are near the tea-chest of cameras. I note Glossy has become a woman...

I do have images that I have created of the old and new symbols, but AI cannot for the life of it depict them properly, so they don't properly appear in the images. Let me know if you want to see them.

ChristmasStars · Yesterday 20:03

I'm very curious about Errol's chutney. I love a good chutney. Do we think it might be especially fiery?

ChristmasStars · Yesterday 20:05

MyrtleLion · Yesterday 19:52

I'm so pleased. I take no responsibility for how you are all represented because AI does its thing. I have previously asked it to represent Marie as a 16th century novelist and RandomHypatia as an ancient civilization philosopher and astronomer, but I was in a rush to post today.

The Character List just lists what you have done in both books, and says things like Boily hoards Tunnocks. It is actually very handy for keeping track. I also have a Knowledge Ledger to keep track of who knows what - Gosie, the Bluestocking regulars, the reader and me - and the open questions that haven't been resolved. And no-one but me gets to see that because it contains VERY BIG SPOILERS.

Oooooh!

FuzzyPuffling · Yesterday 20:06

AngleofRepose · Yesterday 19:50

It's a Mission (Possible)! 😁I love the Camera Directive, and appreciate someone else who knows about proper cameras!

The Victorian outfits are not bad, either.
From the Monty Don thread linked in the last Bluey, I have found a dress that I am contemplating, but unsure if it's going to look too old-fashioned (but looks very cool and comfortable for summer, perhaps next summer):

https://www.bluebarn.life/shop/dresses/edwardian-style-dress-in-irish-linen

Whatcha think? Too flowy? Too much like I'm an extra in Sense and Sensibility? Or too expensive?

I really like that dress. Although not the price!

ChristmasStars · Yesterday 20:06

I can't see if I'm in the pictures because my good glasses are in the other room, but I have probably wandered off or fallen asleep behind one of the crates, like a good cat.

EmpressaurusKitty · Yesterday 20:07

ChristmasStars · Yesterday 20:06

I can't see if I'm in the pictures because my good glasses are in the other room, but I have probably wandered off or fallen asleep behind one of the crates, like a good cat.

You should join us in the catnip patch sometime, @ChristmasStars.

ChristmasStars · Yesterday 20:12

EmpressaurusKitty · Yesterday 20:07

You should join us in the catnip patch sometime, @ChristmasStars.

For sure! I'll need you to show me the way with a map again!

Thehorticulturalhussie · Yesterday 20:14

Magpiecomplex · Yesterday 19:06

No reason at all in one case. Just an email saying "Hi can I reschedule". She'd already rescheduled once before, with an identical message. I don't want a student like that in my department, so I'm grateful she's ruled herself out.

I probably should know, apologies, but what are they failing to apply for?

FuzzyPuffling · Yesterday 20:15

Meanwhile, in the pub next door, " The Old Gerbil Inn", a certain puffin has managed to tempt a cat out of the catnip.

Picture TM @ChristmasStars .
Thanks Stars!

The Bluestocking Pub, where we continue to read about gerbils nobly and bravely working undercover in the Fen.
FuzzyPuffling · Yesterday 20:17

Mine's a pint of Gerbil Bitter please.
.

AngleofRepose · Yesterday 20:17

FuzzyPuffling · Yesterday 20:06

I really like that dress. Although not the price!

Not too frumpy, then? I know, I've been looking at the price, thinking, I don't need a new summer dress... It is handmade, though.

I still don't need it. 😕

AngleofRepose · Yesterday 20:18

FuzzyPuffling · Yesterday 20:15

Meanwhile, in the pub next door, " The Old Gerbil Inn", a certain puffin has managed to tempt a cat out of the catnip.

Picture TM @ChristmasStars .
Thanks Stars!

Are those gerbils eating Dreamies?!!

FuzzyPuffling · Yesterday 20:19

AngleofRepose · Yesterday 20:17

Not too frumpy, then? I know, I've been looking at the price, thinking, I don't need a new summer dress... It is handmade, though.

I still don't need it. 😕

It would last forever and not being 'fashionable" in the S& B sense, it would never date. It would soften with age and be beautiful in hot weather. Or with thermals underneath.

FuzzyPuffling · Yesterday 20:19

AngleofRepose · Yesterday 20:18

Are those gerbils eating Dreamies?!!

Yeah.

EmpressaurusKitty · Yesterday 20:20

ChristmasStars · Yesterday 20:12

For sure! I'll need you to show me the way with a map again!

Just as soon as we’re all back from the cathedrals!