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Feminism: chat

Stop calling me Mrs!!!

262 replies

everychildmatters · 25/08/2025 18:44

Drives me mad.
Why the assumption still, in 2025?!!!!
Eurgh!!!!

OP posts:
Pieceofpurplesky · 26/08/2025 20:00

@SweetmelonffNo, not the OP. Just get fed up of people who use any excuse to put down a teacher. It's so boring now.

CurlewKate · 26/08/2025 22:51

buffyajp · 26/08/2025 16:38

What business is it of yours if other women are happy to be known as Mrs someone. Just because some women don’t like it it doesn’t mean women who do are wrong. They just have a different viewpoint. Personally I think there are far more important things to get worked up about but that’s just my opinion and it doesn’t make it wrong just because you don’t agree. People have the right to request not to be called a particular name or given a particular prefix but equally women have the right to NOT to object to this as well. And it does not make them inferior or wrong.

Of course there are plenty of other issues to take seriously. “Getting worked up” is such a dismissive expression. And if you want to be happy to be married that’s fine. I was talking about people who are “proud” to be married, as if it’s an achievement. The point is that all Mr says about a person is that he is a man. Ms is the direct equivalent for women, and really should be the default. Individual women can then choose to display their marital status if they want to. It is ..interesting….that it’s not something taken into consideration for men. Only women are expected to display their availability.

CopperTray · 27/08/2025 14:09

AmIHumanOrAmIAYeti · 26/08/2025 10:29

Must get the bingo card out.

If you think that’s hard to say don’t ever come to Wales!

I'm welsh

AmIHumanOrAmIAYeti · 27/08/2025 14:30

CopperTray · 27/08/2025 14:09

I'm welsh

Amazed you can’t wrap your tongue around such a simple word then.

JustCantMakeMyMindUp · 27/08/2025 14:34

St my kids school they call all the teachers Sir and Ma’me

LadyHexham · 27/08/2025 14:47

Don't suppose I will ever understand why, in the 21st century, some women still swap one man's name for another man's name on marriage.

I simply don't get it.

SerafinasGoose · 27/08/2025 14:57

LadyHexham · 27/08/2025 14:47

Don't suppose I will ever understand why, in the 21st century, some women still swap one man's name for another man's name on marriage.

I simply don't get it.

It's not the 'man's' name. It's theirs.

Unless you buy into the old tedium that men own their names whilst women only 'borrow' them from their association with a man, and when that association is over are required to give them back.

My name is my name just as my brother's is his.

LadyHexham · 27/08/2025 16:15

But did you get your name from your father?

CurlewKate · 27/08/2025 16:33

LadyHexham · 27/08/2025 16:15

But did you get your name from your father?

Probably. In the same way that men do. How come it’s different for them?

SerafinasGoose · 02/09/2025 18:45

Today I requested, for the third time, that my car dealer amend my record to 'Ms'. I was in a less bloody-minded mood so didn't insist upon 'Dr', although maybe I should have.

The receptionist was perfectly pleasant, unlike the one who took gratuitous offence over this simple request last time I made it. People really do behave as though we are asking for something really outlandish. It's not a big request and plenty of women keep our names.

We'll see what changes!

LesLavandes · 02/09/2025 18:48

Really? I hate being referred to as ‘Ms’

SerafinasGoose · 02/09/2025 18:49

LesLavandes · 02/09/2025 18:48

Really? I hate being referred to as ‘Ms’

This may seem to be stating the highly blooming obvious, but I am not you.

DrPrunesqualer · 02/09/2025 19:23

SerafinasGoose · 02/09/2025 18:49

This may seem to be stating the highly blooming obvious, but I am not you.

Well done Serafina !
no one gets to chose our names but us !

SapphireSeptember · 02/09/2025 23:45

I hate being called Miss. I got married over a decade ago and still I get letters addressed to Miss Sapphire September. The council should know better, but other people assuming piss me right off. It's Mrs, and if they can't manage that Ms will do. I don't know why that's not the default.

AmIHumanOrAmIAYeti · 03/09/2025 09:54

SapphireSeptember · 02/09/2025 23:45

I hate being called Miss. I got married over a decade ago and still I get letters addressed to Miss Sapphire September. The council should know better, but other people assuming piss me right off. It's Mrs, and if they can't manage that Ms will do. I don't know why that's not the default.

Have you told them how you wish to be addressed or are you expecting them to know through some sort of magic?

LillyPJ · 06/09/2025 07:19

everychildmatters · 25/08/2025 19:04

I guess i just don't appreciate the assumption that I'm a Mrs like it's some sort of "default". Life would be so much easier if there was one universal title for women as there is for men!

It would be even better if we just did away with titles altogether. They are mostly unhelpful and unnecessary.

autienotnaughty · 06/09/2025 07:23

Miss indicates a younger person (teens/early twenties)
mrs indicates a adult (as opposed to a young adult)

TizerorFizz · 06/09/2025 07:29

Don’t change your name - stay as “miss”. It’s an issue in schools and just about nowhere else. Loads of women are never Mrs anything at work. Just carry on as you were born - probably with your dad’s surname.

Bjorkdidit · 06/09/2025 07:47

Amazed and horrified that so many people are arguing against equality for women on the Feminism board.

Men are free from all this nonsense. Everyone calls them Mr.

Women have to put up with the endless 'is it Miss or Mrs', be met with eye rolls if they reply Ms and have assumptions made about them whether they use Ms, Miss or Mrs.

I can't really see what purpose titles serve at all, what on earth is wrong with a person's first name, especially for close relatives like a parent (OP why does your DF call you Mrs? Doesn't he use your first name?)

But if people are going to insist, just default to Ms for all women (unless they are a Dr, Countess etc). It's not difficult.

Needlenardlenoo · 06/09/2025 09:12

TizerorFizz · 06/09/2025 07:29

Don’t change your name - stay as “miss”. It’s an issue in schools and just about nowhere else. Loads of women are never Mrs anything at work. Just carry on as you were born - probably with your dad’s surname.

I did this.

Mrs DH's name in school.
Miss My Dad's name out.
Only small issue has been sometimes being called Mrs My Dad's name.
Our builder has for 20 years thought DH is Mr My Dad's name!

People are mostly just trying to be polite but it's impossible to get it 100% right. Defaulting to first names can be perceived as over friendly by older people.

Needlenardlenoo · 06/09/2025 09:16

autienotnaughty · 06/09/2025 07:23

Miss indicates a younger person (teens/early twenties)
mrs indicates a adult (as opposed to a young adult)

I'm not sure it does. You wouldn't call an older unmarried lady Mrs Bloggs if you knew she was Miss Bloggs, would you? My headmistress at school in the 80s was a Miss X. I gave her a lift recently. I do actually know her first name but am I addressing her by it? No way!!

SerafinasGoose · 06/09/2025 09:30

Bjorkdidit · 06/09/2025 07:47

Amazed and horrified that so many people are arguing against equality for women on the Feminism board.

Men are free from all this nonsense. Everyone calls them Mr.

Women have to put up with the endless 'is it Miss or Mrs', be met with eye rolls if they reply Ms and have assumptions made about them whether they use Ms, Miss or Mrs.

I can't really see what purpose titles serve at all, what on earth is wrong with a person's first name, especially for close relatives like a parent (OP why does your DF call you Mrs? Doesn't he use your first name?)

But if people are going to insist, just default to Ms for all women (unless they are a Dr, Countess etc). It's not difficult.

I believe the politer default is 'Ms', as in the US, unless the woman indicates another preference. It makes fewer presumptions. And for an adult woman ma'am is infinitely more respectful than miss.

But I agree with the PPs above that titles - unless professional ones like Dr. or Prof - are obsolete and unnecessary. Like many dated customs I can see these being quietly dropped with time; along with, hopefully, the constantly-annouced 'pronouns' to which even titles are preferable.

Rocknrollstar · 06/09/2025 09:47

everychildmatters · 25/08/2025 18:47

@DiscoBob Mostly the kids I teach. And my Dad 😂

When I started teaching in the 80s I was in quite a rough school but the deputy head hated being called Miss and the children had to call all the female staff Ma’am. I think it is a term that should be reintroduced into schools.

TizerorFizz · 06/09/2025 09:55

@Rocknrollstar So female staff are addressed as The Queen? How odd.

”What’s in a name?” Shakespeare.

EBearhug · 06/09/2025 09:57

TizerorFizz · 06/09/2025 09:55

@Rocknrollstar So female staff are addressed as The Queen? How odd.

”What’s in a name?” Shakespeare.

No odder than male staff being called Sir.