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How girls and women dress in western countries *MNHQ adding content warning for SA as requested*

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Hadmysay · 20/05/2025 19:54

It's an interesting conversation

www.tiktok.com/@danielle90sbaby/video/7501747121238936854

www.tiktok.com/@meetthealis/video/7503903907920317718. Is this unfeminist to feel like this or do they have a point?

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Insanityisnotastrategy · 24/06/2025 09:33

Hadmysay · 24/06/2025 04:57

If they couldn't control themselves, they would be assaulting women in front of their friends, families and colleagues.

A lot can control themselves and a lot cant. Also a lot can but might not be able to control themselves in that moment.

we don't pass the responsibility for that onto women to follow impossible shifting rules and goalposts to avoid their inevitable predation.

Fine then nothing will change simple xx

Sure, that's why we see men committing rape down at Tesco's every other week.

So, so stupid. Your posts, not you of course.

GreenCandleWax · 24/06/2025 14:16

You said there is "so much evidence" that scantily clad women have a negative effect on society. i asked where this "so much evidence" is and you pointed to one online video of some random people talking about their opinions. That is not evidence. Where is this "so much evidence"? 🙄

MuckFusk · 24/06/2025 20:08

Hadmysay · 24/06/2025 05:34

Again it's because women over here anyway percentage wise tend to dress more scantily clad than men.
There will be laws for men as well

Please provide evidence that the way women dress increases rape or give it a rest. It's a myth. Every halfway educated person knows that these days. It's not the 1950s.

"no data suggests that women who dress in revealing clothes are sexually assaulted or raped more often."

https://www.theodysseyonline.com/provocative-clothing-rape-causes

Listen Up Gents, Women Who Wear Revealing Clothing Are NOT Asking For Sexual Assault

Many people believe that wearing revealing clothes is unsafe for women and can increase their likelihood of being sexually assaulted or raped.

https://www.theodysseyonline.com/provocative-clothing-rape-causes

MuckFusk · 24/06/2025 20:10

Insanityisnotastrategy · 24/06/2025 09:33

Sure, that's why we see men committing rape down at Tesco's every other week.

So, so stupid. Your posts, not you of course.

"So, so stupid. Your posts, not you of course."
😄

MuckFusk · 24/06/2025 20:16

Hadmysay · 24/06/2025 05:01

Everyone is different. I've already said not all men are the same.
There's a lot that can control themselves and there's a lot that for whatever reason,probably due to porn,the way women over sexualize themselves and dress cant and have corrupted their minds to the point of no return.
And unpopular opinion how you dress does say a lot about you as a person. I mean the type of lifestyle choices a lot of these scantily clad women live in this country anyway don't tend to be the healthiest for themselves or women in general.

Again, provide evidence that these men can't control themselves. Otherwise you are basing these statements on nothing but your own prejudices and that's not valid.

What about women who can't control the way they dress? Why don't they get a pass too? 😆

Also, provide evidence that there is link between clothing preferences and unhealthy lifestyle choices.

Hadmysay · 25/06/2025 04:42

MiloMinderbinder925 · 24/06/2025 07:17

As has been stated many times, we need to act as we have a VAWAG crisis, the world does. We need a seismic shift in thinking and your views are a perfect example of what needs to change. Thank you for demonstrating that so clearly.

We need a seismic shift in thinking

That will never happen.
What you want to happen and what will happen are two different things

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Hadmysay · 25/06/2025 04:45

Show me your evidence.
Your the one saying these things not me I already concedes that some countries where men control women's dress are more dangerous.
Afghanistan for example I also said there are countries that control women's dress that are much safer.
Kuwait and Qatar

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Hadmysay · 25/06/2025 04:47

WhenYouSayNothingAtAll · 24/06/2025 07:21

Then you’re the deluded one. Funnily enough, we had all that throughout the centuries. Women and children were still raped.

Rape will always exist but it can decrease.
Were talking about will it decrease not will it stop fully. So I think your deluded

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Hadmysay · 25/06/2025 04:51

MiloMinderbinder925 · 24/06/2025 07:24

That's not what I asked you. I'm perfectly aware that men from regressive countries have a negative view of Western women. I asked you how they view women in general. Spoiler: in a deeply dehumanising and derogatory way.

I'm bored now.

Sorry my mistake I read it wrong. I thought you meant western women.
I think it varies.
Most of them respect the women in their family and community,and women they consider good women.
Some even respect women they don't consider "good women" but acknowledge things about them by how they act and present themselves.

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Hadmysay · 25/06/2025 04:54

pointythings · 24/06/2025 08:57

You said it when you posted that case study. You posted it as 'evidence' of your position. It has been pointed out that this is not how reserch works - perhaps you should do a little reading.

So you would not be in favour of seriously heavy punishments for rape then? Men are an afterthought, it's the women who must be punished by forcing them to cover up?

So you would not be in favour of seriously heavy punishments for rape then

I'm definitely in favour of heavier punishments for rape

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MuckFusk · 25/06/2025 04:55

Hadmysay · 25/06/2025 04:45

Show me your evidence.
Your the one saying these things not me I already concedes that some countries where men control women's dress are more dangerous.
Afghanistan for example I also said there are countries that control women's dress that are much safer.
Kuwait and Qatar

Who are you talking to here? You need to mention the poster so they know who you're posting to. Just put the @ sign up and their name will appear on a list. Click on it.

Hadmysay · 25/06/2025 04:59

MuckFusk · 24/06/2025 20:08

Please provide evidence that the way women dress increases rape or give it a rest. It's a myth. Every halfway educated person knows that these days. It's not the 1950s.

"no data suggests that women who dress in revealing clothes are sexually assaulted or raped more often."

https://www.theodysseyonline.com/provocative-clothing-rape-causes

How you dress not only has an affect on you but others as well btw.
Most good men are going to go for women that dress like that btw,like I said before abusers work slowly.
They don't tend to reveal themselves straight away.
You attract that man when you are dressing scantily clad but he might rape you 9 months down the line when you are wearing trousers.
If you introduce debauchery into society what do you think went up.
Fun fact child abuse went up after the sexual revolution.

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MuckFusk · 25/06/2025 05:00

Hadmysay · 25/06/2025 04:42

We need a seismic shift in thinking

That will never happen.
What you want to happen and what will happen are two different things

Yet you do expect such a shift in the way women think about how they dress. Interesting.
Do you really not see the double standard? According to you men can't control their desire to rape, but women can and should control their desire to bare some skin. Men can't change their thinking about SA, but women need to change their thinking and decide to dress differently. You put it all on women and let men off the hook.

MuckFusk · 25/06/2025 05:03

Hadmysay · 25/06/2025 04:59

How you dress not only has an affect on you but others as well btw.
Most good men are going to go for women that dress like that btw,like I said before abusers work slowly.
They don't tend to reveal themselves straight away.
You attract that man when you are dressing scantily clad but he might rape you 9 months down the line when you are wearing trousers.
If you introduce debauchery into society what do you think went up.
Fun fact child abuse went up after the sexual revolution.

So you're just going to ignore evidence, pretend you didn't see it and repeat the same things which have been refuted by that evidence. It's like that is it.

Try to remember that correlation is not causation. You actually think children are enticing men to rape them with their clothing? How creepy is that. Ewwww.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 25/06/2025 09:03

Hadmysay · 25/06/2025 04:51

Sorry my mistake I read it wrong. I thought you meant western women.
I think it varies.
Most of them respect the women in their family and community,and women they consider good women.
Some even respect women they don't consider "good women" but acknowledge things about them by how they act and present themselves.

They don't OP or they wouldn't accept women being treated like second class citizens. Rape and sexual abuse is sky high and in some countries, women who 'act out' are put into homes where they are punished.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 25/06/2025 09:08

Hadmysay · 25/06/2025 04:42

We need a seismic shift in thinking

That will never happen.
What you want to happen and what will happen are two different things

It has happened. Domestic abuse is no longer seen as something that happens in a relationship. We have laws against it, rape crisis centres, and helplines. Nothing will change if we victim blame and don't hold men to account.

Bex5490 · 25/06/2025 10:37

Hadmysay · 25/06/2025 04:59

How you dress not only has an affect on you but others as well btw.
Most good men are going to go for women that dress like that btw,like I said before abusers work slowly.
They don't tend to reveal themselves straight away.
You attract that man when you are dressing scantily clad but he might rape you 9 months down the line when you are wearing trousers.
If you introduce debauchery into society what do you think went up.
Fun fact child abuse went up after the sexual revolution.

Every one of your posts is full of non factual facts. You should sit in on one of my lessons delivered to 7 year olds on the difference between facts and opinions…

How is it a ‘fact’ that child abuse went up? How could you possibly know that when more people report crimes now and the definition of rape has changed?

If in some states you could legally marry a 15 year old, and it was not illegal to rape your wife, then child abuse in that instant wasn’t even viewed as a crime…

You come across as someone who spends way too much time on the internet having your ill-informed opinions validated by your social media algorithms.

If you watch, view and like the same (misogynistic) content all the time, your social media will just keep showing you things it thinks you’ll like, ie: ones that confirm your biased opinions.

That’s how it keeps you engaged and ultimately how it makes money.

That’s why it’s important to look for credible sources of information and research. Someone claiming to know what they’re talking about on Tik-tok is not credible.

Insanityisnotastrategy · 25/06/2025 15:03

Hadmysay · 25/06/2025 04:59

How you dress not only has an affect on you but others as well btw.
Most good men are going to go for women that dress like that btw,like I said before abusers work slowly.
They don't tend to reveal themselves straight away.
You attract that man when you are dressing scantily clad but he might rape you 9 months down the line when you are wearing trousers.
If you introduce debauchery into society what do you think went up.
Fun fact child abuse went up after the sexual revolution.

So he manages to control himself for nine months, in your scenario?

Fun fact, the popularity of gluten-free food led to the creation of Twitter.

MuckFusk · 25/06/2025 20:14

Insanityisnotastrategy · 25/06/2025 15:03

So he manages to control himself for nine months, in your scenario?

Fun fact, the popularity of gluten-free food led to the creation of Twitter.

😄

pointythings · 25/06/2025 20:53

Insanityisnotastrategy · 25/06/2025 15:03

So he manages to control himself for nine months, in your scenario?

Fun fact, the popularity of gluten-free food led to the creation of Twitter.

Yep, and then when he rapes her, it's her fault for wearing a skimpy dress 9 months ago.

Shark well and truly jumped here.

Hadmysay · 26/06/2025 02:07

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14847117/men-raped-Rotheram-girl-white-girls.html

Guys strangley enough here's an article which was posted yesterday.
Three men are in court on charges of grooming and what I said a few pages ago about how these men view us because of how a lot of us in the west dress and a lot disagreed with me but guess what,I wasn't lying.
I told you it was a reason it's out of the horses mouth.

He said it was my own fault, I'd led him on.

'I shouldn't have walked around in what I was dressed in.

'I deserved it and that is what white girls were for.'

Again I don't condone this at all but I'm telling you what it is and contributing factors.

Men who 'raped' Rotherham girl said 'this is what white girls are for'

Prosecutor Andrew Bailey told Sheffield Crown Court today the girl, now in her late 30s, was raped by Hussain, Kessur Ajaib and Mohammed Makhmood between 1999 and 2002.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14847117/men-raped-Rotheram-girl-white-girls.html

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Hadmysay · 26/06/2025 02:11

MiloMinderbinder925 · 25/06/2025 09:03

They don't OP or they wouldn't accept women being treated like second class citizens. Rape and sexual abuse is sky high and in some countries, women who 'act out' are put into homes where they are punished.

They don't OP or they wouldn't accept women being treated like second class citizens.

There's no way for you to know that or not.
I'm going by what I've seen and know.
And I wouldn't say the women in their families are second class citizens.
Most times Obviously there are rare occasions they are but from what I've seen most are looked after and respected

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MuckFusk · 26/06/2025 02:15

@Hadmysay

Sure, the the stupid excuses sex offenders use should be taken as the gospel, because these poor victims unfortunately did. By this reasoning women are tempting these men just by being white. Should white women try to tone down their whiteness to avoid rape as well?

Knowing you are actually dead serious about this and think this proves you right makes it all the more amusing.

Hadmysay · 26/06/2025 04:54

Insanityisnotastrategy · 25/06/2025 15:03

So he manages to control himself for nine months, in your scenario?

Fun fact, the popularity of gluten-free food led to the creation of Twitter.

Some men can control themselves I've said that

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Hadmysay · 26/06/2025 05:18

MiloMinderbinder925 · 25/06/2025 09:08

It has happened. Domestic abuse is no longer seen as something that happens in a relationship. We have laws against it, rape crisis centres, and helplines. Nothing will change if we victim blame and don't hold men to account.

There has been those things for decades.
Again nothing will change.
It's one step forward two steps back

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