How girls and women dress in western countries *MNHQ adding content warning for SA as requested*

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It's an interesting conversation

www.tiktok.com/@danielle90sbaby/video/7501747121238936854

www.tiktok.com/@meetthealis/video/7503903907920317718. Is this unfeminist to feel like this or do they have a point?

Laws should apply equally to everyone. Yours don't.

The only solution to this issue is for men to learn not to rape. And we can get as nasty about that as we want, as far as I'm concerned. Rape someone? Lose the equipment you used. That might focus minds.

Then YOU can start to EDUCATE these men

your never going to convince me it's a good thing for schoolgirls everywhere you look to have their skirts so short you can see what they had for breakfast.

Ewwwwwwwww, you’re definitely male; no female human would look that hard or think like that. Otherwise, you are married to a raping paedophile and are trying to convince yourself it was all the fault of the “slutty 7 year old” and not the fault of your poor innocent husband

If they couldn't control themselves, they would be assaulting women in front of their friends, families and colleagues.

A lot can control themselves and a lot cant. Also a lot can but might not be able to control themselves in that moment.

we don't pass the responsibility for that onto women to follow impossible shifting rules and goalposts to avoid their inevitable predation.

Fine then nothing will change simple xx

Everyone is different. I've already said not all men are the same.
There's a lot that can control themselves and there's a lot that for whatever reason,probably due to porn,the way women over sexualize themselves and dress cant and have corrupted their minds to the point of no return.
And unpopular opinion how you dress does say a lot about you as a person. I mean the type of lifestyle choices a lot of these scantily clad women live in this country anyway don't tend to be the healthiest for themselves or women in general.

How women dress can cause societal harm.
Especially for young girls but your not ready for that conversation are you.
So yes I will continue to use that as a comparison.

They can control themselves in certain instances but there's definitely a switch for some of them or a trigger.
Obviously not all men

Nothing will change if women cover up either. It will only change if men choose to stop such behaviour

Well that's really gonna happen when you keep rewarding their perverted selves with access to your body both sexually and visually isn't it. Giving the perverts exactly what they want.
I truly believe if we ban porn,encourage slightly more gender segregation (not all the way but especially in schools), teach young boys about the dangers of oversexualizing women and about consent, and implementing a ban by law on scantily clad dress and disuading women from sleeping around rape would go down in the uk.
I would put good money on it.

They're not. No one is responsible for someone else's behaviour.

Well carry on the way things are then.

you're the one that thinks there's less assault in countries that control women's bodies. Despite all the evidence

I said there's less assault in some countries that control women's bodies. Get it right.
Not all

It’s not really my problem how the male brain works

Well don't complain when these things still happen then. Ive already said nothing will change.

A case study cannot legitimately be extrapolated globally

Where did I say it did?

They see western women as easy and stereotype us as being "whores" because many sleep around and have a lot more sexual partners than women from their cultures.
And also the ones I have spoken to say dress is a big factor as well since we wear less clothes than women from their cultures as well.
And yes western men can also be misogynistic as well

which allowed them to have sex lives as men always have.

Which was a really stupid thing and the damage that has left has lasted generations.
Because men can do it we must do it too?
I've never subscribed to this and never will.

so the emphasis now is more on addressing male behaviours that adversely affect women.

I agree we should address it but we should address both and the part women play in it as well and still play.
This is something we very rarely talk about and unless we do things won't ever change.
You can't have a society,both men and women who promote such unhealthy lifestyles then only turn round to blame one gender. It won't change anything.

A tik tok discussion between random people is not "evidence

It's not tiktok.
These people are professionals.
Give it a watch you might learn something

It wouldn't. Just because women dress more provocatively than men don't mean men wouldn't be targeted either.
I'm pretty sure for muslims for example women have to cover up but men aren't allowed in a mosque wearing shorts. The laws will affect both genders but differently

Again it's because women over here anyway percentage wise tend to dress more scantily clad than men.
There will be laws for men as well

We can educate both men and women. I don't care if you don't agree with me

Erm I'm a woman.
In the op it has two tiktok videos from WOMEN saying the same thing.
Belive it or not there are some of us who still have a bit of class and sense to know it's not good for anyone much less children to be dressing like that.

As has been stated many times, we need to act as we have a VAWAG crisis, the world does. We need a seismic shift in thinking and your views are a perfect example of what needs to change. Thank you for demonstrating that so clearly.

You're wrong. There's more assault in countries where women are punished for men's behaviour because they tend to be deeply misogynistic. Unless you have evidence that says otherwise.

Then you’re the deluded one. Funnily enough, we had all that throughout the centuries. Women and children were still raped.

That's not what I asked you. I'm perfectly aware that men from regressive countries have a negative view of Western women. I asked you how they view women in general. Spoiler: in a deeply dehumanising and derogatory way.

I'm bored now.

You said it when you posted that case study. You posted it as 'evidence' of your position. It has been pointed out that this is not how reserch works - perhaps you should do a little reading.

So you would not be in favour of seriously heavy punishments for rape then? Men are an afterthought, it's the women who must be punished by forcing them to cover up?

Skin-crawling isn't it.