Did Harris lose because she was a woman?

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Apparently even after calling Puerto Rico a floating island of trash, many immigrants still voted for Trump. It's been argued that some sectors of society simply won't vote for a woman.

Even on here, I saw a post asking if a woman would be respected by world leaders.

Well, the USA has never elected a woman.

They are a very backward country in so many respects. The fact that they are voting for Trump says it all.

I think yes, she lost because she is a woman. America is unwilling to elect a female head of state.

Firstly Trump did not say that, a comedian at his rally did. Joe Biden did in fact call Trump supporters rubbish.

I think Kamala lost as her policies are simply too woke for what Americans want for their country. She firmly supports transgenderism & males infiltrating female sports teams, private spaces, toilets & prisons. She is no friend to biological females.
Also supports puberty blockers & gender reaffiming surgeries for children.

I think partly, yes. Her colour also comes into it.

I think putting reproduction rights front and centre also was a mistake (in terms of getting elected I mean, not that I don't agree!). Women only get places if they pretend to be men and to centre men's interests. Her focus on reproductive rights meant they could never forget she's a woman.

That all said, millions of women didn't vote for her and I don't have an answer for that today apart from 'turkeys voting for Christmas'.

Yes of course that must be it 🙄 If she had won (and thank heavens the people had more sense) would you be saying she win because she was a woman? Clutching at anything rather than say the US people preferred Donald Trump.

Trump has said plenty of derogatory things about immigrants including that they're eating people's pets.

What did Trump do about gender ideology during his last tenure?

Do you think Trump is a friend to biological females? He's said some pretty derogatory things about Harris and women in general, including sexually assaulting them.

Has he said anything about domestic abuse in the US or child marriage?

Not directly.
She lost for a lot of complicated reasons including the fact that she was bounced onto the ticket without being selected by a primary.
One of the main reasons that happened is because the Democrat funders didn't believe a woman would win a primary.

Some, but not all, of the reasons people have given for why she didn't get their votes do boil down to "because she's a woman" but wouldn't be stated that way.

But also she waa standing for election in a country that doesn't exist. A country where the majority of voters are left-leaning liberals like everyone she normally associates with. She wasn't trying to appeal to the people who didn't naturally fit that category but also didn't like Trump and would gladly have voted for someone who seemed to understand their concerns.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/trump-pledges-protect-womens-sports-from-male-athletes-during-faulkner-town-hall-we-absolutely-stop-it

Yes he said those things yet millions of Hispanics, Latinos, Peurto Ricans, Jews, Arabs, Muslims & members of the black community voted for him still as they preferred him to Harris.
Maybe she was just too "progressive" & liberal for the majority of demographics.

When Trump was last in power, the tax rules and employment stats were better. They also have a COL crunch, people voted for lower taxes. Illegal migration is a huge concern.

What colour is that? I should imagine her insulting attempt to convince actual black American women that she is just like them and understands their struggles cost her a lot of black female votes.

I think that Biden’s decision not to step down after one term was a big factor. If he’d said last year that he wasn’t running for a second term, the Democrats could have held the usual primary process for choosing a new candidate and perhaps someone with broader appeal would’ve emerged. Harris wasn’t a particularly well-known VP so she’s had an uphill battle with voters.

Biden hindered her chances by hanging on until after his disastrous debate performance. It’s similar to Ruth Bader Ginsberg hanging on as a Supreme Court judge (instead of retiring and letting Obama appoint her replacement).

Biden should’ve acknowledged that it was time to step aside and let a candidate step up earlier.

Absolutely & Trump called her out on that very quickly.

And the “grab them by the pussy”guy is a friend to women?? He’s not even loyal to his wives.
Regardless of that the christofascists are in charge now and they’re going to erode rights that women fought hard for.
America just voted in the Taliban but yeah, transgender women are the real problem.

No. I think that's an oversimplification. There is no single reason. There are lots of reasons.
She only recently took over from Biden and had very little time to turn things around.
She faces racism and sexism.
She was damaged by the Democrat position on Gaza.
She was damaged by representing the incumbent party.
Maybe Waltz was the wrong running mate.
But, most importantly, she was up against Trump who, against all the odds and all logic, is somehow an unstoppable force in US politics.

I am fairly certain Biden would have been thoroughly trounced if he'd stayed on and it wouldn't have been because he's a man. Sexism is important but I don’t think it's the main thing in this instance.

Agreed.

She left because she's a radical leftie, with no coherent policies. Trump is far from perfect, but thank God he won.

She *lost because…
And I agree.

Most people have absolutely no clue about this.

We confuse a common language for culture at our peril. Parts of the US in particular are very backward and insular. There are massive differences between states because it's a federal system. Women have vastly fewer rights at national level, and family support is minimal.

First, it was going to be an uphill battle for any Democrat because although there is nearly full employment, cost of living stepped up a lot after COVID and wages did not keep up.

Second, it is a tragedy that the two women to lead a major party ticket were both very weak candidates. Hillary had a lot of experience on paper but she got most of her political roles thanks to her husband’s pull in the party. She would never have become a Senator from NY without being Bill Clinton’s wife, and the same was probably true of her appointment as Secretary of State. When the primary came, she was the chosen one for the Democratic party establishment, pushing aide rivals that were more “likeable”. Then, Kamala Harris was chosen by Joe Biden so he could win the black vote in the primaries in 2020, without which he would never have become the candidate.

So one was anointed, the other was appointed.

I fear that their losses in the general election, will make it more difficult for any women who did not benefit from being elevated through nepotism or tokenism to ever win the Presidency.

No I don't think she lost because she is a woman. She lost because she wasn't up to the job - her time in office proved that.

People voted for the person they wanted to be president.

She lost because she was weak and irritating. And had no policies worth mentioning. She was not very popular as a VP. She just wasn't President material. I'm glad she lost. And zero charisma.

She did not have firm policies on immigration

There'll be plenty of "immigrants" in America who share the opinion about Puerto Rico! Have you never heard of "black on black" racism - it can be worse and more widespread than "white on black". African racism against South Americans is common, as is Asian racism against Africans.

Being "of colour" doesn't mean that all those "of colour" share the same views, they're not a homogenous group with the same opinions etc.

It's one of the fundamental misunderstandings about the entire concept of racism that it's all "white on black" and that no "person of colour" can be racist against another "person of colour" of a different race or religion.

It is not the only reason, but t is a contributing factor. Like it or not there are still people in society who would never vote for a woman. Similarly there are people who would never vote for a person of colour, a muslim a homosexual and so on.

I would like to think that the percentage of these people in society is decreasing as time goes on but there are certainly some people like that out there and they do get to vote.