Did Harris lose because she was a woman?

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Apparently even after calling Puerto Rico a floating island of trash, many immigrants still voted for Trump. It's been argued that some sectors of society simply won't vote for a woman.

Even on here, I saw a post asking if a woman would be respected by world leaders.

I give up with the American electorate, Trump voted ‘leader’ not once but twice…
Reap what you sew etc…

It didn't have anything to do with her being a woman
She lost momentum when she started talking.
She gained a bit again after the comedian's stupid joke at MSG rally, but Biden & Mark Cuban were like "hold my beer"
There were and are women leaders in politics, and they're well respected. She cannot talk!

I think it is possibly part of it but I would find it hard to argue that was the central factor.

From outside and reading the news the economy seems to have been the deciding factor - so much American media if listened to/read the last few months has centered on inflation and the (admittedly crazy sounding) cost of food. On paper the American economy is booming and Americans pull in wages that make me envious but it doesn't seem people there feel it in their day to day lives.

I think also the fact Trump seems to have gained a lot of support from Hispanic Americans/younger black men/young women seems that analysing this from an identity perspective seems to wrong approach. I don't think you can gain support from that angle, there seems a deeper schism in values in the US. I was listening to the News Agents podcast where they were interviewing a woman in Florida and her family had gone to Florida to get away from Venezuela and the socialist government there. She was so against Harris and what she regarded as socialist policies the democrats wanted to introduce. I think someone with that perspective isn't going to be moved to vote for the candidate who happens to be the same sex as her if she believes their policies are going to set the country on path that makes and and her family poorer/less free etc.

Any ideas what Trumps policies are???

Joe Biden won a majority of the pledged delegates during the Democratic primary process. All of them and mainstream media said that he is as sharp as a tack and he runs circles around his staff. They all lied, including Harris

@Pumpkinspawn , you are exactly correct.

Yes.

Plus other reasons. Americans aren’t ready for and don’t like women leaders. As a rule.

Taking this bleak moment to share this gem of a woman leader and Trump 😀

No. She lost because it’s extremely expensive to live here right now and people blame the Dems for that. It really is as simple as that.

Yes.
She was fantastic in the campaign. Both her and Hilary Clinton are formidable and capable women. Yet they lost to a sexist, racist, old white man who literally harassed women and was proud of it.

Second, it is a tragedy that the two women to lead a major party ticket were both very weak candidates.

They are both a fuck of a lot stronger than Trump. And yes, it should be a national shame that America hasn't elected a woman. They are on a shrinking list of backward nations not to have. 31% of UN member states.

I don't think her colour comes into it. I think if Michelle Obama has stood against Trump, it may have been a different story. Kamala Harris was not (IMHO) a particularly inspiring candidate as well as supporting some controversial ideologies.

Trump didn’t say that. A comedian called Tony Hinchcliffe said that.

100%
You can add ‘ism’ and ‘ist’ to so many prefixes & Trump is guilty & proud of himself.
Watching him mimic and disrespect a disabled man last time around was the most shameful thing to watch.
… a moral free zone

I absolutely agree with this^ even not all women care about their reproductive rights, as to men… And people are naturally selfish and see immigration and economy as much more pressing issues
Also she wasn’t white enough for white people and wasn’t black enough for black people.

Partly because she is a woman and partly because she was a poor candidate against a raging bullshitting narcissist and doesn't appear to have had much of a profile or positive record herself in past few years. She also isn't a great speaker

@Choosenandenough
But the trump team vetted the comedian's script and chose to leave that remark in.

I feel sorry for American women.

I think this is relevant. The Democrats could have had an opportunity to find a candidate who was capable of winning against Trump, but instead they were stuck with Harris because they spent ages lying about Joe Biden's condition.

I'm sure lots of factors came into play in Harris' defeat, including for some voters that she is a brown woman, but I would imagine that for some floating voters the sheer dishonesty of the Democratic party's stance will have played a part too.

Surprisingly, even women are concerned about the economy.

Politics is not about voting for a woman or a man, it is about voting for the policies and promises that most align with beliefs.

Although it is particularly galling that a female candidate would sell out women for trans rights activists.

I think there were lots of reasons. Her being female will have played a part, I’m not sure men trust women with the “big job”.

She focused too much on reproductive rights and men don’t care about that; it doesn’t affect them. Same with the trans ideology. Very controversial subjects such as hormone blockers for kids will have lost her support. Maybe she thought she could sacrifice the support of religious people and the (perceived to be) uneducated people in trailer parks, but actually your average American clearly doesn’t support her policies.

I think the celebrity endorsements may have left a bad taste in the mouth of regular Americans too. Who is Beyoncé or Taylor Swift to tell you who to vote for? Their lives are in a different stratosphere from 99% of people. Do they need to worry about healthcare, interest rates, food, jobs, childcare? It probably came across as patronising.

I imagine regular Americans want a stable economy, job availability (get the immigrants gone = more jobs for Americans), lower gas prices and the chance to prosper.

Trump’s team really played on the things that have gone wrong since he left office the last time. I can absolutely see why he won this.

No, she lost because she shouldn't have been in the race in the 1st place. Weak on policy.lied about Bidens' capacity until it suited her to turn tail, weak on policy & the administration she's been part of for the last 4 years has been an absolute shit show.

Firstly, I am far from a Trump supporter. I don't believe it's impossible for a woman to get elected as President in the USA, I just don't think it will happen anytime soon.
I just feel she was a very poor candidate with no proven track record. The sad thing is that there was no other strong candidate, either male or female and now the party can blame it on her being a woman. One article I read this morning said that women didn't get out and vote for her so now every woman in USA is being blamed.

I'm glad I'm not a woman living in the USA as I think her failure to get elected has set women back and dampen their voices.

As for Trump winning he wasn't the best candidate, he's egotistical, irrational but given the world we live in these days it shouldn't have been a shock to anyone that he was elected.

(get the immigrants gone = more jobs for Americans)

From my understanding, immigrants mostly do jobs Americans don't want, such as harvesting, meat processing, construction.

Yh I agree - I saw a bit of both Kamala Harris and Michelle Obama speaking and I was struck that Michelle Obama is a more impressive speaker and she's not even a politician!

It probably did have something to do with her being a woman.

Seeing as the USA has never ever elected a woman as USA president.

Most other western countries have had a female leader at this stage

I’m not sure of the breakdown of what jobs immigrants do, but I do think his promise to deport 20 million of them has to have been attractive to some voters. Jobs open, smaller queues at the hospital, higher social housing availability.