Disown by mum friends who I have known for 20 years due to my gender critical view.

[rouxelitee]

I am a bit sad today because I have been disowned by my group of friends who are mothers. I have known them since college. All of us have children, mine is a toddler.

One of them is a paediatrician. Let's call her JY. She supports the trans-movement for children. Recently she has shared an article with the whatsapp chat group on sexual and relationship saying that this should be how children are parented. https://www.nspcc.org.uk/keeping-children-safe/sex-relationships/
I didn't agree with the gender and identity section and I called it out. I said that affirming children in this matter will make things worst. The conversation escalated and she basically cautioned me that this is hate speech and if a doctor have the same view as I do, their license will be taken.

Fast forward to today, my partner and I are have been researching on local schools and their policies on the same matter, preparing ourselves for when our child is of school age. We found out that this school in Leicester has the following policy.

7.3 In accordance with the Equality Act 2010 we will not inform a parent or carer about a student being Trans or gender questioning.
7.4 Confidential information will not be shared with the parents and carers without a student’s permission, unless there are safeguarding reasons for doing so.
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https://www.newcollege.leicester.sch.uk/force_download.cfm?id=3190

I felt that this is such a massive red flag, that I need to warn all my friends to look into their school policies.

JY then said "Much as I value our friendship, I do not have headspace to engage in these issues. I'll bow out of this group." A few others followed and quit the chat group.

They will possibly not talk to me ever again. I am very sad and I feel very alone in this matter, and that my partner and I and alone in this battle alone trying to protect our child from the state, the school and dangerous ideology.

I guess I just want to not feel like a crazy person shouting on top of my lungs "please look into this, this is bad".

Thanks,
roux

Many people don't like being compelled to indulge a sexist delusional male

tell me again how being gender critical has nothing to do with demonising trans people; oh do tell me again.

They can choose not to cheat women out of sporting medals and places though or make women uncomfortable in spaces not for them. As long as they do that all is well in the world.

How is that demonising them? Any man who disrespects women's boundaries is a danger to women.

Why are you avoiding the point about access to single sex spaces?

But the world doesn't revolve around trans women, Tandora. They are welcome to believe whatever they like about themselves but women should not be required, coerced or forced to pretend to believe it too.

Many of us care very deeply about the importance of biological sex. You are speaking from a place of privilege and it shows. Your lack of empathy for marginalised women for whom being forced to share what are supposed to be single sex safe spaces with biological males is really shocking.

Great, so can I use toilets and changing rooms and compete in sport safe in the knowledge that there will be no trans women in there with me?

Because they think they have the right to be in those spaces and in our sports on the basis that they identify as being one of us. And if we don't have the right to say, "Actually, no, we don't agree that you are like us, please create your own spaces for people who are like you", we are being forced to be part of their identity whether we agree or not.

This is abusive behaviour and I can't believe so many women are just accepting this as our fate.

You do understand that the "you do you" has implications for others, as we live in a society, don't you? And in this particular case, some subset of people "doing you" poses serious consecuences to another very vast group of people? This has nothing to do with "identity" however it's defined these days, but with actual and material consecuences.
But of course you know this, you're just intellectually dishonest.

Only read the OP’s posts.

On the topic of your friendship group, I don’t think you did anything wrong in expressing your opinion. People here have told you that you shouldn’t have shared them but your friend shared her views first. Why should you keep quiet too? It seems to me that if you don’t agree with the current prevailing narrative, that you should shut up and be quiet. I disagree with this vehemently.

On the topic of schools/ education - it is my view that a school’s job is to educate your child. It is a parent’s job to parent them. Only when schools suspect abuse or similar at home should the state intervene. It is NOT down to schools to push values and agenda of the state. Parents pass their values to their children and are responsible for keeping them safe.

Can they be who they are away from womens restrooms/changing facilities/prisons?

I am sorry to hear about your son, it's not easy for a parent to go through this. Thank you for sharing your experience.

My experience with these people (including the friends who cancelled me) is that they cannot define what a woman is, even when they "identify" as one. But somehow people who can define a woman (for eg as a adult female human) are bigots.

Being able to define what a woman is, is now far right racist bigots. In my country we learnt what a woman is when we were 7.

People get confused what constitute an identity. Being woman is not an identity. An identity is a role you play in a society, it's a negotiation between you and other people. For eg, my occupation, my role in my family, my values based on family history and education. Identity changes overtime (my identity changes as I grow up from a child to an adult, to a mother, to may be a grandmother), but my biology will not change.

You do realise all this drama is directed at biological women and not men. Op your group of WhatsApp friends are asking you to define what a woman is? Biological women are allowing it to happen because it's there sons or daughters who want to live another life and they are protecting them. Gid forbid they tell there children the truth. When a woman says to another woman you do you why is that never said to a man when debating gender. My partner reckons it's our fault for allowing them in our spaces I am starting to think he's right. You'll never see a trans man go up against a bio man that's stupid the trans man will lose and get badly hurt.

Women are happy to watch a man go into a ring and beat a woman unconscious. If that happened to a man there would be riots what do we do we complain on social media and other platforms. In the Olympics in the women's boxing finals she should not have gone into the ring with him she normalised foolishness and made bio women complain again rather than taking a stand. I did a quick Google search Imane Khelifs opponent wanted to apologise to him cause she didn't shake his hand. It's so unbelievable you'd think I was making it up. This is what we are up against and you think op you're going to get a reasonable conversation with your female friends. We are our own worst enemies.

@Usian I am so sorry to hear your story young people are so impressionable. They follow their peers with what they are doing and teachers and other agencies support them and will happily guide them behind the parents back. It's not until later on when they become adults that they realise what they have done to themselves. The pharmaceutical industry is worth billions it's in their interest to keep people reliant on drugs that they produce one way or another. We are all guinea pigs for them to experiment on.

My partner says the same - he is astonished at how my friends are reacting to this, and that women aren't standing up for themselves, for the fear of being accused not being compassionate enough.