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"Girl math". Superdrug, tut tut tut

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GirlMathBS · 26/06/2024 11:32

Why does it feel like the world is regressing?

"Girl math". Superdrug, tut tut tut
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stressedespresso · 26/06/2024 19:41

HollyKnight · 26/06/2024 18:02

I don't think middle-aged mums are their target audience with this.

My teen DD has seen it and thinks it is shameful too. Belittling young women into silly little girls who prioritise a (shitty) concealer over food 😒

HollyKnight · 26/06/2024 19:53

stressedespresso · 26/06/2024 19:41

My teen DD has seen it and thinks it is shameful too. Belittling young women into silly little girls who prioritise a (shitty) concealer over food 😒

It says more about you and your daughter if you both think it is saying you should skip a meal to buy makeup.

stressedespresso · 26/06/2024 20:03

HollyKnight · 26/06/2024 19:53

It says more about you and your daughter if you both think it is saying you should skip a meal to buy makeup.

Trust me, it says far more about you that you genuinely can’t see through this ridiculous excuse of ‘marketing’. It stinks of underlying misogyny

stressedespresso · 26/06/2024 20:06

ThreeEggOmlette · 26/06/2024 14:55

Urgh, I'm glad someone else has picked up on this load of reductive shite from Superdrug.

Dont go to yoga, buy a tub of face cream!

Fuck that noise.
Go to MORE yoga or gym. Or a running club, whatever floats your boat.
Get off a screen, meet people, reconnect with your body, spend time on your health and wellbeing and ignore the messages from cosmetic peddlars that investing cash in your outward appearance is more important than investing cash in your health.

And the people defending it on 'duh! They only said don't buy breakfast OUT ffs' the message is insidious.
It's a direct comparison of food or cosmetics for three of the four 'girl math' examples in that email - you honestly think that doesn't send a subliminal message?

Lord. Can you tell that email triggered some kind of repressed rage in me? 😂

Very well said. Applies to you @HollyKnight

HollyKnight · 26/06/2024 20:07

stressedespresso · 26/06/2024 20:03

Trust me, it says far more about you that you genuinely can’t see through this ridiculous excuse of ‘marketing’. It stinks of underlying misogyny

Um that's what marketing is. The agenda is to get money from a targeted group of people.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 26/06/2024 20:11

HollyKnight · 26/06/2024 19:53

It says more about you and your daughter if you both think it is saying you should skip a meal to buy makeup.

Thats the message. I can’t believe you don’t see it?
”Instead of spending on a daily guilty pleasure [breakfast], get a product that will last way longer! So, instead of buying breakfast you can get the new viral e.l.f. concealer! Find out more options below and get these guilt-free!”

Breakfast= daily guilty pleasure
Make-up= guilt free product that lasts longer

Unless you are a Nigel Farage. He’s the only person I know that denies the obvious. He said the day after the vote that the big bus saying
“We send £350m a week to the EU, let’s spend it on the NHS instead. Vote Leave”

Didn’t at all carry the message that we should leave the EU so we can fund the NHS an extra £350m/week?

Teddybarr · 26/06/2024 20:16

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 26/06/2024 20:11

Thats the message. I can’t believe you don’t see it?
”Instead of spending on a daily guilty pleasure [breakfast], get a product that will last way longer! So, instead of buying breakfast you can get the new viral e.l.f. concealer! Find out more options below and get these guilt-free!”

Breakfast= daily guilty pleasure
Make-up= guilt free product that lasts longer

Unless you are a Nigel Farage. He’s the only person I know that denies the obvious. He said the day after the vote that the big bus saying
“We send £350m a week to the EU, let’s spend it on the NHS instead. Vote Leave”

Didn’t at all carry the message that we should leave the EU so we can fund the NHS an extra £350m/week?

It's not saying food or any breakfast isn't as worthwhile as make up though is it, it's saying a takeaway coffee & croissant. If it was an image of actual groceries or something then sure, but it's an extravagance just like make up is.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 26/06/2024 20:20

Teddybarr · 26/06/2024 20:16

It's not saying food or any breakfast isn't as worthwhile as make up though is it, it's saying a takeaway coffee & croissant. If it was an image of actual groceries or something then sure, but it's an extravagance just like make up is.

It is saying that breakfast is a guilty daily pleasure. The coffee and croissant are just an example of a breakfast, just like the e.l.f. concealer is an example of one of the options (see below!) that you can buy. It is actually saying that breakfast is less worthwhile than makeup because makeup “lasts way longer!”

And you have to spend money to get any breakfast, so it doesn’t have to be breakfast out. They only picked coffee and croissant because it’s roughly the cost of the product they want you to buy instead of eating breakfast.

HollyKnight · 26/06/2024 20:22

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 26/06/2024 20:11

Thats the message. I can’t believe you don’t see it?
”Instead of spending on a daily guilty pleasure [breakfast], get a product that will last way longer! So, instead of buying breakfast you can get the new viral e.l.f. concealer! Find out more options below and get these guilt-free!”

Breakfast= daily guilty pleasure
Make-up= guilt free product that lasts longer

Unless you are a Nigel Farage. He’s the only person I know that denies the obvious. He said the day after the vote that the big bus saying
“We send £350m a week to the EU, let’s spend it on the NHS instead. Vote Leave”

Didn’t at all carry the message that we should leave the EU so we can fund the NHS an extra £350m/week?

Breakfast OUT. Not breakfast. You know, like how budgeters say if you cut out your daily coffee from Starbucks you could afford X instead. They're not saying give up drinking coffee.

Breakfast out/Starbucks coffee is a treat for many people. They're saying treat yourself to make-up instead of treating yourself to a croissant from Costa.

Teddybarr · 26/06/2024 20:23

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 26/06/2024 20:20

It is saying that breakfast is a guilty daily pleasure. The coffee and croissant are just an example of a breakfast, just like the e.l.f. concealer is an example of one of the options (see below!) that you can buy. It is actually saying that breakfast is less worthwhile than makeup because makeup “lasts way longer!”

And you have to spend money to get any breakfast, so it doesn’t have to be breakfast out. They only picked coffee and croissant because it’s roughly the cost of the product they want you to buy instead of eating breakfast.

Edited

I mean buying takeaway coffee & pastry for breakfast every morning would be a guilty pleasure if done daily; expensive & a rubbish way nutritionally to start the day. They are equating it to these sort of non essential food purchases because a bown of porridge or toast & eggs isn't going to cost anywhere near that is it.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 26/06/2024 20:23

HollyKnight · 26/06/2024 20:07

Um that's what marketing is. The agenda is to get money from a targeted group of people.

In this case, they are trying to get young women to spend money for breakfast on makeup instead.

I can see impressionable school girls taking lunch money and skipping lunch so they can buy makeup on the way home from school on the basis of this ad.

stressedespresso · 26/06/2024 20:24

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 26/06/2024 20:23

In this case, they are trying to get young women to spend money for breakfast on makeup instead.

I can see impressionable school girls taking lunch money and skipping lunch so they can buy makeup on the way home from school on the basis of this ad.

This.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 26/06/2024 20:24

Teddybarr · 26/06/2024 20:23

I mean buying takeaway coffee & pastry for breakfast every morning would be a guilty pleasure if done daily; expensive & a rubbish way nutritionally to start the day. They are equating it to these sort of non essential food purchases because a bown of porridge or toast & eggs isn't going to cost anywhere near that is it.

That is how they have made the message seem innocuous, and why I call it insidious- it is subtle and harmful.

HollyKnight · 26/06/2024 20:25

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 26/06/2024 20:23

In this case, they are trying to get young women to spend money for breakfast on makeup instead.

I can see impressionable school girls taking lunch money and skipping lunch so they can buy makeup on the way home from school on the basis of this ad.

No, they're trying to get young women who treat themselves to breakfast out to treat themselves to makeup instead.

Teddybarr · 26/06/2024 20:27

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 26/06/2024 20:24

That is how they have made the message seem innocuous, and why I call it insidious- it is subtle and harmful.

🤣

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 26/06/2024 20:29

HollyKnight · 26/06/2024 20:22

Breakfast OUT. Not breakfast. You know, like how budgeters say if you cut out your daily coffee from Starbucks you could afford X instead. They're not saying give up drinking coffee.

Breakfast out/Starbucks coffee is a treat for many people. They're saying treat yourself to make-up instead of treating yourself to a croissant from Costa.

Yes, but why pick on breakfast? When there is the eons old trope where teen girls are told to skip breakfast or they will get fat?

Why didn’t they pick something else to tell young women to skip in favour of buying makeup? And keep it for adults only?

Like instead of having a glass of wine…? Instead of eating a box of chocolate?

HollyKnight · 26/06/2024 20:30

With the amount of leaping going on there, you should cancel your gym membership and buy the whole e.l.f. cosmetics line.

stressedespresso · 26/06/2024 20:30

Well.. if this thread has taught Superdrug anything it is that their new marketing strategy works very well for those lacking a bit in the brain cell department!

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 26/06/2024 20:30

HollyKnight · 26/06/2024 20:25

No, they're trying to get young women who treat themselves to breakfast out to treat themselves to makeup instead.

And totally ignoring the 3rd order effects of their sexist advertising on impressionable teenagers.

HollyKnight · 26/06/2024 20:37

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 26/06/2024 20:29

Yes, but why pick on breakfast? When there is the eons old trope where teen girls are told to skip breakfast or they will get fat?

Why didn’t they pick something else to tell young women to skip in favour of buying makeup? And keep it for adults only?

Like instead of having a glass of wine…? Instead of eating a box of chocolate?

Because their target is not older wine drinkers. Their target group is the people who waste/spend money on overpriced croissants from the coffee shop.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 26/06/2024 20:42

HollyKnight · 26/06/2024 20:37

Because their target is not older wine drinkers. Their target group is the people who waste/spend money on overpriced croissants from the coffee shop.

Exactly, their target is not 18+ women, but teenage school girls.

HollyKnight · 26/06/2024 20:47

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 26/06/2024 20:30

And totally ignoring the 3rd order effects of their sexist advertising on impressionable teenagers.

Of course it's sexist. It's makeup. Makeup is mainly geared towards women. Just like how anything to do with babies is mainly geared towards women. They target women because they know it is women who will be interested.

That's what marketing is. That's what social media is. They're not trying to help the world. They're trying to make money.

HollyKnight · 26/06/2024 20:49

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 26/06/2024 20:42

Exactly, their target is not 18+ women, but teenage school girls.

I don't know where you live but around here 18yo don't treat themselves to a glass of wine and 14yo don't go to Costa on their way to school in the morning.

Mirabai · 26/06/2024 21:07

Sparklfairy · 26/06/2024 17:48

PP has linked to boy math specifically. It's all kinds of things as well, not just height for men and shopping for women. It's actually quite interesting psychological trickery. You can scroll through dozens of comments about 'girl math' and automatically disregard/forget the ones that don't apply to you, but the ones you do relate to are funny. The same with boy math, you just snigger when you think of that one guy you know/used to know that would totally rationalise that way and you ignore the rest.

Boy math is thinking a woman is only after your money when you make minimum wage
Boy math is wanting a woman to spend £££ on her appearance yet you turn up in jeans and an old T-shirt and insist on going halves because 'equality'
Boy math is saying to a woman 'what do you bring to the table' when you live with your parents and don't even own your own fucking table

It's funny. NAMALT but we all know at least 1MLT Grin

Which as I said is a kind of limp echo of the original. Trying to even things up in parenthesis. The phrase “boy math” simply doesn’t have the same connotations. Any more than “running like a boy” does.

TheMarzipanDildo · 26/06/2024 21:10

MrsMiddleMother · 26/06/2024 12:42

'Girl math' is a trend popular on tik tok and social media at the moment, superdrug are just using the term to advertise to their main market; young women. Its really not something to be all uppity about.

I’m a young woman and I find it fucking irritating.

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