Amber Heard&Johnny Depp post verdict

[Miscfeminista]

Continuation of previous thread:

www.mumsnet.com/talk/feminism/4560089-amber-heardjohnny-depp-verdict?page=1

and the one before(during trial):

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4552076-amber-heardjohnny-depp-trial?page=36&reply=117586863

Also, refresher on DV:

www.womensaid.org.uk/information-support/what-is-domestic-abuse/recognising-domestic-abuse/

Basically his team could insist she engaged with their psychologist, as she alleged abuse. But because he denied any abuse from her pre trial, he did not have to be examined by her experts.

We all saw what that did in the trial with his psychologist diagnosing her with BPD.

I don't understand how he was then able to use her abuse and the photos of injuries in his defense. Or say that she severed his finger.

At the very least that document shows evidence he is happy to lie in legally binding situations (either he lied when he signed the document, or he lied under oath)

I'm not a lawyer but that would seem to be a pretty big issue around whether the trial was fair.

But both legal teams had doctors who had access to his medical records and X-rays regarding his finger and testified on their findings. If he had claimed mental/emotional distress that would have been under the microscope too. AH evidence of physical abuse (ie photos) was iffy as to whether this alone would stand up to scrutiny as it couldn’t be proved they were originals, she stated she had PTSD and that was rightly tested. I’m not saying whether she did or didn’t.

I'm not a lawyer but that would seem to be a pretty big issue around whether the trial was fair.

I’m not a lawyer either (probably stating the obvious😊) but if that was a valid reason for a retrial her team would have used it but they didn’t they went for the much woolier ‘dodgy juror’.

JD did not sue AH for injury or mental issues but for defamation, and both sides had plenty of "evidence" that wasn't allowed at the trial.

He signed a legally binding document that she never caused him physical or emotional harm. Then said in court she did. Either way, he lied to the court.

Anyway I don't really want to get back into why St Depp is entirely justified in all he does. I just think this new stuff is far more damning to him than her

AdamRyan

If you read the document its not JD's declaration It is his legal team's response to him being compelled to have a medical examination.

His legal team are his representatives. That's how come he was liable for waldmans actions.

It's splitting hairs. It's contradictory to say she caused no harm pretrial, then rely on the harm she caused in his defense (e.g. that her abuse provoked his actions in self defense)

Will be interesting to see what the appeal grounds are

Unfortunately splitting hairs is what the legal system is very good at.

I see Heard has changed her lawyer for the appeal.

Apparently Elaine doesn’t do appeal work so has passed it on to someone else but Rottenborn will be part of the appeal team.

Ah ok, didn’t see that.