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Feminism: chat

Amber Heard&Johnny Depp post verdict

587 replies

Miscfeminista · 05/06/2022 22:58

Continuation of previous thread:

www.mumsnet.com/talk/feminism/4560089-amber-heardjohnny-depp-verdict?page=1

and the one before(during trial):

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4552076-amber-heardjohnny-depp-trial?page=36&reply=117586863

Also, refresher on DV:

www.womensaid.org.uk/information-support/what-is-domestic-abuse/recognising-domestic-abuse/

OP posts:
TiddyTidTwo · 05/06/2022 23:59

Tasya wrote a statement:

I believe her!!! Where was she?

Onthedunes · 06/06/2022 00:00

Neither has the last say as their jurisdictions are limited to where
they are. They only have say within their respective jurisdictions. No
US court can overrule a U.K. court and vice versa

So in essence Amber can continue to call him an abuser and it's for him each time to sue her for defamation.

So it depends on how much money she has as to how she continues.

Lawyers heaven.

TiddyTidTwo · 06/06/2022 00:00

"The “one middle aged man” was a professional and highly trained judge well versed in the law and how to assess evidence. However the jury was a handpicked selection of amateurs that by not being sequestered were then exposed to the undue influence of public opinion"

You sure about that or just what you think?

Discovereads · 06/06/2022 00:03

Onthedunes · 06/06/2022 00:00

Neither has the last say as their jurisdictions are limited to where
they are. They only have say within their respective jurisdictions. No
US court can overrule a U.K. court and vice versa

So in essence Amber can continue to call him an abuser and it's for him each time to sue her for defamation.

So it depends on how much money she has as to how she continues.

Lawyers heaven.

No, she cannot while she is in the US. She could fly here and then call him a wifebeater though.

TiddyTidTwo · 06/06/2022 00:04

"So in essence Amber can continue to call him an abuser"

Yes. She still is.

I doubt depp will waste anymore time on her. He's got his side out finally in public for people to make their own decisions, unhindered by MSM, juries or judges.

Time to grey rock.

Will do her good too so she can get the help she needs.

Yes I do feel empathy for her, despite my harsh opinion, but last thing Amber needs is enablers.

Discovereads · 06/06/2022 00:05

TiddyTidTwo · 06/06/2022 00:00

"The “one middle aged man” was a professional and highly trained judge well versed in the law and how to assess evidence. However the jury was a handpicked selection of amateurs that by not being sequestered were then exposed to the undue influence of public opinion"

You sure about that or just what you think?

I’m sure.

Onthedunes · 06/06/2022 00:06

Is this possible to take to a criminal court.

Could Amber take him to criminal court for sexually abusing her all these years after.

TiddyTidTwo · 06/06/2022 00:06

Me too

IrisVersicolor · 06/06/2022 00:06

TiddyTidTwo · 05/06/2022 23:51

Ugh. The UK trial is irrelevant. I posted links on the last thread a uk barristers thoughts on that, and it was depp v the sun anyway.

It seems an incredibly useful tool to bash people over the heads with in this trial like it was the be all and end all. Limited evidence (mostly hers) judge with incredibly tight links to the defendant and wasn't allowed in this trial. Thank god. This trial has Depp's evidence too.

Not one old Middle Aged man making a decision but a jury, unanimously but no, they're all brainwashed liars too. Everyone is wrong.

Your captivation with random barrister is hilarious.

One highly educated, highly experienced member of the U.K. judiciary who published detailed findings the appeal judges could find no error of law vs a bunch of randoms from Virginia. I know which is more likely to be reliable.

Miscfeminista · 06/06/2022 00:07

Has anyone seen this? It’s even more worrying than the trial about the guy being punched. This is really abhorrent

www.courthousenews.com/battered-by-johnny-depp-guards-woman-says/#:~:text=LOS%20ANGELES%20(CN)%20%2D%20Johnny,woman%20claims%20in%20Superior%20Court

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IrisVersicolor · 06/06/2022 00:07

Incidentally, isn’t random barrister a middle aged man?

TiddyTidTwo · 06/06/2022 00:08

On the dunes

Yes she could I guess. But she didn't get any evidence at the time, she went down the media route instead.

TiddyTidTwo · 06/06/2022 00:09

"Incidentally, isn’t random barrister a middle aged man?"

Absolutely Iris I won't repost your opinion on him though

Onthedunes · 06/06/2022 00:11

I doubt Amber will let this go.

She destroyed him first, now he's destroyed her.

It won't end, for all her talk of moving on, that was before her reputation and carreer was destroyed.

She never expected him to fight back.

TiddyTidTwo · 06/06/2022 00:13

"Has anyone seen this? It’s even more worrying than the trial about the guy being punched. This is really abhorrent"

As Amber said, all coming out of the woodwork now. Her PR team are working hard.

Come on....this would've come out in 2016 after Amber did her thing, wouldn't it?!

I think it's abhorrent these articles, MSM articles can print this shit

IrisVersicolor · 06/06/2022 00:13

TiddyTidTwo · 06/06/2022 00:09

"Incidentally, isn’t random barrister a middle aged man?"

Absolutely Iris I won't repost your opinion on him though

Oh do, I found him distinctly underwhelming and he has a long long way to go to be a judge. If he thought that was even a remote possibility I doubt he’d be pissing in the wind on YouTube.

IrisVersicolor · 06/06/2022 00:15

TiddyTidTwo · 05/06/2022 23:59

Tasya wrote a statement:

I believe her!!! Where was she?

Of course if the statement had been written by Depp you’d have believed every word.

IrisVersicolor · 06/06/2022 00:17

Miscfeminista · 06/06/2022 00:07

Has anyone seen this? It’s even more worrying than the trial about the guy being punched. This is really abhorrent

www.courthousenews.com/battered-by-johnny-depp-guards-woman-says/#:~:text=LOS%20ANGELES%20(CN)%20%2D%20Johnny,woman%20claims%20in%20Superior%20Court

Interesting and depressing because it’s not dissimilar to what the two bodyguards who sued Depp complained of.

TiddyTidTwo · 06/06/2022 00:18

"Of course if the statement had been written by Depp you’d have believed every word."

Kate moss turned up though? Where was ambers ex? Why didn't she testify under oath in Virginia?

TiddyTidTwo · 06/06/2022 00:19

"Interesting and depressing because it’s not dissimilar to what the two bodyguards who sued Depp complained of"

It is interesting. Any update on that old article? Did she get damages?

Onthedunes · 06/06/2022 00:25

I can't imagine that happening in an uditorium with a roomfull of spectators,

Surely this would have been big news, dragging a disabled woman around, trousers pulled down, handcuffed and humiliated.

Fuck if I'd seen that I'd be straight onto the police.

ldontWanna · 06/06/2022 00:32

TiddyTidTwo · 06/06/2022 00:13

"Has anyone seen this? It’s even more worrying than the trial about the guy being punched. This is really abhorrent"

As Amber said, all coming out of the woodwork now. Her PR team are working hard.

Come on....this would've come out in 2016 after Amber did her thing, wouldn't it?!

I think it's abhorrent these articles, MSM articles can print this shit

Now?!? This is from 2012 , and it was in the papers for while at the time. Can you even hear yourself?

Vehicular manslaughter, no proof(that little document proves nothing , except that's the unit that dealt with the FOI request) , nothing in the news,no witnesses, no plaintiff, no trial, nothing except contradicting rumours. You believe it all.

Assault by JD's bodyguards, despite him settling, nah can't even possibly be real. It's just people coming out of the woodwork.

Changechangychange · 06/06/2022 00:34

TiddyTidTwo · 06/06/2022 00:19

"Interesting and depressing because it’s not dissimilar to what the two bodyguards who sued Depp complained of"

It is interesting. Any update on that old article? Did she get damages?

The woman’s name was Robin Eckart and Depp settled with her out of court in 2014.

He seems to have to settle out of court in assault cases fairly often doesn’t he?

TiddyTidTwo · 06/06/2022 00:43

"Vehicular manslaughter, no proof(that little document proves nothing , except that's the unit that dealt with the FOI request) , nothing in the news,no witnesses, no plaintiff, no trial, nothing except contradicting rumours. You believe it all"

I do not! I believe she had a conviction at 16 which was serious then got caught again as an adult. So whilst most of us mere mortals never get arrested for driving offences, let alone twice plus an assault charge plus smuggling animals into Australia.

The records are closed. If something more serious happened and there is speculation, then that makes her actions since worse.

If not then it's still pretty crap, isn't it? Or is her record normal?

TiddyTidTwo · 06/06/2022 00:45

"The woman’s name was Robin Eckart and Depp settled with her out of court in 2014.

He seems to have to settle out of court in assault cases fairly often doesn’t he?"

That's good. It was his bodyguards no? And settled out of court.