Johnny Depp has played a blinder

[bennetmoore]

Johnny Depp’s legal team really have played an absolute blinder. He probably won’t win the case as defamation trials are nigh on impossible to win in the USA but he’s ruined her life and so that’s a win for him. I don’t think she’s necessarily an angel but a woman having a fairly brash/mouthy personality does not mean violent retaliation from the man is justified, nor does she deserve to be raped by the man. And no, I don’t believe Johnny in his 50s with his fame, money and power was frightened or intimidated by an early 20s Amber. He wanted a young, blonde accessory girlfriend, a ‘bangmaid’, so to speak. That’s why he describes her withholding drugs from him during active withdrawal (and it was said that this is the recommend way to help the addict during withdrawal) as ‘cruel’.

I know intelligent, switched on women who have completely fallen for the ‘Amber is Satan’ bandwagon. A relative’s wife who was a child protection social worker for decades in the USA, Kentucky, explicitly said on Facebook “I don’t believe her, she doesn’t act like the many abuse victims I’ve seen.” I was stunned. She also shared a post written by a man describing how Amber’s baby needs to be removed from her, Amber doesn’t deserve to be a mother, speculating that Amber probably physically abused her daughter etc. Also petitions to have Amber’s baby removed from her, which I think is absolutely vile. This is an actual living child, not a prop for entertainment.

I think Johnny knows exactly what he is doing. His laughing in court is vile, it reminds me of my abusive ex laughing and belittling me. Watching the laughing and his smug was actually very triggering for me, and the way Amber became anxious in response. He made a huge deal about being absolutely gutted about not getting to say a ‘proper’ goodbye to the Jack Sparrow character. Again, I’m not convinced. He’s trying to get people to see him as their favourite movie character in an attempt to get them to sympathise with him, I can’t believe people are falling for it. I personally won’t be having Pirates Of the Caribbean on in my home again.

You know of someone, or you know someone? If the vicar held the secret, how did it get out?

I feel very uncomfortable with the whole thing.
I’ve no idea who is lying and who is telling the truth. I’d imagine it’s both and neither.
I feel this whole court case is just a continuation of abuse and will be awful for whoever loses. I do think Amber is coming off worse and worry that she could be telling the truth.

There was a tape played that had her saying no one would believe Mr Depp. I also found it fairly dismissive that you suggested people on his “side” were jumping on a bandwagon. Just because people have an overwhelming majority in favour of someone you do not like, does not mean it is a “bandwagon.” Additionally your argument for rape dismissed her abuse. Does two wrongs make a right? Mr Depp has been ACCUSED of it and will most likely lose this case but equally, it does not mean you should dismiss his feelings because you believe that he “isn’t scared” of a 20 year old girl. They are both just as bad so I suggest you refrain from throwing punches in the dark just because people do not agree with your opinion. That is ignorant.

Also there is nothing stopping her now taking criminal action and then he will be locked up. She has now publicly accused him of enough to get him life imprisonment. What is stopping her ?

I'd imagine a lack of evidence. Surely if she had it she'd use it at this trial.

I should have said re. leaving/hiding that I STILL do this as soon as anyone gets angry, not just I did.

Or maybe she's lying.
Not only did she claim tape,she said he used a bottle to rape her.
If that's true there's no way she wouldn't have to go to hospital.
You could die from something like that.

I've steered clear, mainly, as it's somewhat depressing to read page after page of venomous misogyny, profound ignorance about so many issues around the case, and posters just being so incredibly cruel about a complete stranger.

So we're mysogynist because we don't believe a liar.
I don't believe her because she admitted to it on tape.
I don't believe her because the police who where actually there didn't see her as a victim.

She's setting the DV movement back years.
But you want to believe her because Depp is a man and that's the crux of it.

That's quite convincing.

www.reddit.com/r/Deuxmoi/comments/ukgxe8/list_of_ahjd_abuse_myths_debunked/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

This Reddit thread is well worth a read. Most of the common arguments against Amber have other details to them that are never mentioned.

@BorderlineHappy I don’t think she said he used the broken end though, did she?

Police do not ‘believe’ or ‘not believe’ just because someone said so, they need to investigate

But you want to believe her because Depp is a man and that's the crux of it

Reductive, baseless and inaccurate, but I'm aware this is how these threads go.

I've stated my thoughts. We disagree.

Reading some of these replies, some posters will only be happy when AH kills herself.
Absolutely disgusting.

I agree it’s convincing and there is evidence of this but we keep hearing from the ‘she’s lying’ brigade but they don’t seem to address this.

I think the one, absolute single thing I’d like to see the fans of JD address is the article this is all about - and properly. It’s all feeling very reminiscent to ‘JKR is transphobic’ without reading the article.

Here it is, and remember when reading this two things - he promised ‘global humiliation’ with that vile text in 2016 and she wrote this in 2018.

Read it again and again and tell us how she ‘reaped what she sowed’ and whatever other shit means she ‘deserves’ this.

www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ive-seen-how-institutions-protect-men-accused-of-abuse-heres-what-we-can-do/2018/12/18/71fd876a-02ed-11e9-b5df-5d3874f1ac36_story.html

This Reddit thread is well worth a read.
Most of the common arguments against Amber have other details to them that are never mentioned

This is a very biased thread though obviously written by someone who supports her, not him.

There needs to be the facts about both of them as they’ll be loads of threads like this but the ‘facts’ will change depending on who the writer is supporting.

While we're talking facts.

1. She did abuse him
2. She then tried to destroy him

I don't care for Depp at all but she's a despicable person.

Didn't Amber say to him 'nobody will believe you you're a man'? regarding him being an abuser.

There's more to a power dynamic than physical frame.

I really don't get why Amber is portrayed as the crazy one when he is the well documented long term substance abuser with a well documented, long term history of violent rages and smashing stuff up.

This makes for an interesting pro-Amber read
www.independent.co.uk/voices/johnny-depp-vs-amber-heard-trial-fans-memes-b2075356.html?amp

There are sources quoting her as saying it broke inside her

I'm not saying that's true its mostly scuttlebutt hard to tell facts from fantasy at this point

That wasn't me who mentioned the broken bottle.

..... Because of all the evidence perhaps?

Absolutely agree

It seems the world has definitely gone against Amber Heard, but any relationship where Class A ‘s play a part isn’t going to be plain sailing.

Both are actors, and It’s likely 6 of one and half a dozen of the other when it comes to fights.

I don’t get why they are looking to waste all that money on legal fees, the only winners are going to be the lawyers.

@Pumperthepumper

It's important for women who report rape to be treated with dignity and respect, and their report to be thoroughly and properly investigated

I don't think people who make a crime report, however serious, should automatically be believed, no questions asked. IIRC, a police force got into trouble for saying they would "believe" rape reports, as it's important to remain impartial