Johnny Depp has played a blinder

[bennetmoore]

Johnny Depp’s legal team really have played an absolute blinder. He probably won’t win the case as defamation trials are nigh on impossible to win in the USA but he’s ruined her life and so that’s a win for him. I don’t think she’s necessarily an angel but a woman having a fairly brash/mouthy personality does not mean violent retaliation from the man is justified, nor does she deserve to be raped by the man. And no, I don’t believe Johnny in his 50s with his fame, money and power was frightened or intimidated by an early 20s Amber. He wanted a young, blonde accessory girlfriend, a ‘bangmaid’, so to speak. That’s why he describes her withholding drugs from him during active withdrawal (and it was said that this is the recommend way to help the addict during withdrawal) as ‘cruel’.

I know intelligent, switched on women who have completely fallen for the ‘Amber is Satan’ bandwagon. A relative’s wife who was a child protection social worker for decades in the USA, Kentucky, explicitly said on Facebook “I don’t believe her, she doesn’t act like the many abuse victims I’ve seen.” I was stunned. She also shared a post written by a man describing how Amber’s baby needs to be removed from her, Amber doesn’t deserve to be a mother, speculating that Amber probably physically abused her daughter etc. Also petitions to have Amber’s baby removed from her, which I think is absolutely vile. This is an actual living child, not a prop for entertainment.

I think Johnny knows exactly what he is doing. His laughing in court is vile, it reminds me of my abusive ex laughing and belittling me. Watching the laughing and his smug was actually very triggering for me, and the way Amber became anxious in response. He made a huge deal about being absolutely gutted about not getting to say a ‘proper’ goodbye to the Jack Sparrow character. Again, I’m not convinced. He’s trying to get people to see him as their favourite movie character in an attempt to get them to sympathise with him, I can’t believe people are falling for it. I personally won’t be having Pirates Of the Caribbean on in my home again.

Narcissistic pair of twats. Another thread for me to hide, I think that's seven for me so far.

Narcissistic Personality Disorder does exist but that is not what Dr Curry diagnosed Amber Heard with.

Tbf @LetitiaLeghorn you probably would. It takes numerous attempts to leave an abuser. The trauma bonds run deep.

Ah yes, you're right. She did diagnose it. The other forensic psychologist contested that diagnosis. It's still the case that 'Histrionic' is contested territory, though. And I find it odd that the two sides are able to appoint their own expert witnesses whose evidence is clearly stacked on their side, rather than (as in the UK) an independent, objective assessor provided by the court itself.

In my own unprofessional, completely unqualified opinion both Heard and Depp are FUBAR and in urgent need of intensive professional intervention.

I see already on the thread there's a 'victims don't behave that way' protestation. I find this sad, coming from people who have been victims themselves and can't apparently understand that not every victim will respond to the same situation in exactly the same way. Not even when they're broken as a result of that abuse. In my case, I'd have rather faced worse consequences for me than ever show that fucker I was afraid of him. I knew if I mouthed off or struck back I'd end up getting the worst of it. I did it anyway.

How lovely.
so it’s not possible for her to be an abuser?
And no, I don’t believe Johnny in his 50s with his fame, money and power was frightened or intimidated by an early 20s Amber
no ofcourse big jd couldn’t possibly be a victim.

i don’t know who is right or wrong, but comments like this are disgusting.

"There is more evidence of her being violent than him from what I can see,"

This and the fact that she has apparently also abused an ex and he (much older than her) has apparently never abused any of his exes.

don’t believe Johnny in his 50s with his fame, money and power was frightened or intimidated by an early 20s Amber.

Age, money or amount of fame does not determine how much some is abusive/being abused.

This attitude is not helpful as it stops many people from leaving or telling anyone about it.

There are many women with high powered jobs who earn much more than their husbands and are abused.

There are also tall, muscley men twice the size of their wives but are still abused by them.

I don’t believe he’s an angel but she is definitely worse and she thinks she can get away with it because she cries and flinches when she sees him.

The phone call where she was laughing at him for being in an abusive relationship is chilling and if that was a mans voice he would rightly have everyone hating him.

I’m surprised everyone’s backing Johnny and has Amber down as some crazy man beating woman. Johnny was off his head on drugs, he probably doesn’t even remember half these nights stuff happened or allegedly happened. Can anyone imagine living not only with a heavy drug abuser, but one who has everyone at his beck and call as he is who he is? That in itself would be pretty hellish. But no Amber is being accused of all sorts and Johnny is 100% out to destroy her. I find his behaviour in and outside court disgusting. He won’t win, but he’s fine the damage he needs to do.

One thing’s for sure, it’s the lawyers who are winning big here.

@MarieIVanArkleStinks

Ah the ol Mumsnet chestnut of the man “abusing through the courts” - which in this case means after Amber heard wrote her op Ed implying Depp abused her (despite it coming to light she is also abusive) and he lost movie roles, he took her to court, lost and now has taken her to court again.

She kicked of this whole thing with her article - why is he expected to lie down and be painted as an abuser and her as his victim and lose his career without any reply? She started trying to ruin him with her article (and benifet as a fashionable victim) had she not done that they could have both gone their own way and none of this would be coming out. Not her initial lies, not the whole fucked up truth.

I swear some women just can’t stand for any woman to be in the wrong as though it’s an affront to their feminism and think men should just lie down and take being lied about and lose their carer like a good boy to further the cause.

Depp is a classic abuser, many of us can see straight through it.
He has done a good job trying to spread out the muck, and try and make it look like they were both toxic.

He is a dangerous, highly unstable man that should have been locked up years ago. I suspect he saw gutsy Amber as a challenge, and enjoyed shredding her to pieces. A cat and mouse game to him. I hope she can rise above this whole episode and put this behind her after the trial.

No wonder domestic violence prosecutions are at an all time low.

@MarieIVanArkleStinks I have heard about the Histrionic Personality Disorder being controversial in the field. You are correct, Dr Hughes testified to Amber having PTSD and not a personality disorder. I felt that she was biased in the sense of the way she talked, it was always the female as the victim and the male the perpetrator. I felt that her delivery wasn't as strong as Dr Curry's. Be interesting to see Dr Curry's rebuttal.

I agree that there should be a court appointed psychologist and not paid by either side as this would present a more unbiased evaluation.

My husband is a mental health nurse and has been accused of raping a patient several times. The police were called, he was suspended pending investigation and luckily for him, all the occasions he "raped" her, he wasn't even on shift. But what if he HAD been? Why would he automatically be guilty and she believed just because she's a woman? It's very, very dodgy ground to start from a perspective of every rape accusation being true. Yes, every rape victim should be LISTENED to, but belief should he left to a court to decide

She'd filed for divorce so she'd definitely left him. The poster I quoted couldn't go into a room with her passed out ex. If she then told me she was too scared to go into a room where he was but she'd actively pursued meeting up with him in an anonymous bedroom, well...🤷

I believe the comments from her ex assistant in relation to AH copying her own special assault were disproved. When asked in the UK case about this she admitted that she in fact did not know the details of AHs assault claims.

Also for anyone who believes that JD has never assaulted AH the they need only view the text messages between AH and JDs assistant for proof. These are submitted for evidence and can be viewed. I believe JDs legal team are trying hard to have these excluded from evidence. Poor trial by social media. I only hope the jury is intelligent enough to make a decision based on actual evidence rather than social media character assassinations!

Well yes, because the alternative is all rapes go un-investigated.

I am baffled by the support Johnny Depp has. It's quite bizarre the citing of her being an actress and this is all part of act. I think JD may have been in a movie or 2 himself! Whatever the legal outcome it feels like JD has "won" in the court of popular opinion.

Depp is a classic abuser, many of us can see straight through it.
He has done a good job trying to spread out the muck, and try and make it look like they were both toxic.

What about all of the phone conversations though.
That’s not him making things up it’s there in ‘black and white’.

I think that's because she said she didn't know if the bottle was broken. Surely if it was a broken bottle you would know due to bleeding? Also the fact he is in his 50s and no one has ever accused him of anything similar.

I definitely think he has acted very badly and so has she. I actually find it quite astounding that the OP said she doesn't deserve violent retaliation - no one does and she is the only one who has admitted being physically violent.

I found it triggering when he spoke about how he would leave or hide. That's what I did. I don't (as the OP has said) that he was every scared of her as in thinking she would over power him, I think it's the triggering emotions.

Either way, they are both messed up people who need help. Personally I find her difficult to believe she has PTSD as I DO have PTSD from abuse and I can't think of anything worse than looking into the eyes of a bunch of strangers (the jury of course) and reliving such awful experiences so coherently. I know he made jokes but I often disassociate or make light of things when talking to someone I know as a coping mechanism. One half of a toxic relationship claiming they are the only victim is also triggering.

I might get flamed for the above however I think it is my right as an abuse victim to give my opinion. And just as a disclaimer, I may have liked JD's pirates films but I've never been a super fan or knew anything about his private life.

I think those texts are fake, the spacing is off and there is not date, status…

I wasn’t a fan of either, but this court case has made my opinion of JD even lower and I actually feel more sympathetic to AH. Apart from the case, JDs laughing in court and smiling and waving for fans is off-putting when all this stuff is aired. Has he no shame?

Actually if you check out the other threads there are a lot of genuine victims who disagree with you . They have found it extremely difficult to admit it but they think AH is telling a lot of lies in amongst some small truths .

I don't agree with that statement either @AllThingsServeTheBeam I knew of someone who lied & said someone had raped her, he was convicted & sent to prison (it happened several years before I knew about it). She confided in a local vicar apparently who held her secret.
So it does happen & I really don't think it's a good idea to believe everyone that claims rape or abuse just because they've said it.

So you don't believe her own admission that she's abusive?

theres historic abuse claims against amber she also has no medical records for having any injuries in the time with depp-he stuck a broken glass bottle up her and she didnt seek any medical attention

yeah right

maybe he hit her back maybe he didnt but the way she talks doesnt sit right with me as a victim of abuse