Johnny Depp has played a blinder

[bennetmoore]

Johnny Depp’s legal team really have played an absolute blinder. He probably won’t win the case as defamation trials are nigh on impossible to win in the USA but he’s ruined her life and so that’s a win for him. I don’t think she’s necessarily an angel but a woman having a fairly brash/mouthy personality does not mean violent retaliation from the man is justified, nor does she deserve to be raped by the man. And no, I don’t believe Johnny in his 50s with his fame, money and power was frightened or intimidated by an early 20s Amber. He wanted a young, blonde accessory girlfriend, a ‘bangmaid’, so to speak. That’s why he describes her withholding drugs from him during active withdrawal (and it was said that this is the recommend way to help the addict during withdrawal) as ‘cruel’.

I know intelligent, switched on women who have completely fallen for the ‘Amber is Satan’ bandwagon. A relative’s wife who was a child protection social worker for decades in the USA, Kentucky, explicitly said on Facebook “I don’t believe her, she doesn’t act like the many abuse victims I’ve seen.” I was stunned. She also shared a post written by a man describing how Amber’s baby needs to be removed from her, Amber doesn’t deserve to be a mother, speculating that Amber probably physically abused her daughter etc. Also petitions to have Amber’s baby removed from her, which I think is absolutely vile. This is an actual living child, not a prop for entertainment.

I think Johnny knows exactly what he is doing. His laughing in court is vile, it reminds me of my abusive ex laughing and belittling me. Watching the laughing and his smug was actually very triggering for me, and the way Amber became anxious in response. He made a huge deal about being absolutely gutted about not getting to say a ‘proper’ goodbye to the Jack Sparrow character. Again, I’m not convinced. He’s trying to get people to see him as their favourite movie character in an attempt to get them to sympathise with him, I can’t believe people are falling for it. I personally won’t be having Pirates Of the Caribbean on in my home again.

A temporary restraining order can run from 5 days - 2 weeks, or until a full hearing is organised.

It’s not at all uncommon for women take out restraining orders and then try to get back with the abuser. See also reporting abuse to police then trying to get the charges dropped.

And by the way the person who takes out the order cannot ‘break’ the order, only the abusive person. As the order is not against the person who took it out.

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@IrisVersicolor

Which is absurd if the person who took out the order travels to the area of the one who they took it out against - which of course puts them in violation of it. Amber Heard at the least has best Depp and followed him room to room yelling at him - she is abusive he just didn’t bother to report it ad a career move.

As I say you can’t violate your own order.

If you couldn’t travel to the area the perp lived you’d effectively be under a restraining order of your own. What if they lived near your work or family?

I agree legally you can't violate your own order but she sort of technically did by asking Depp to violate it. I think she signed something to indemnify him but I don't know if that would stand up in court or not.

Actually, maybe not technically violate it, probably more morally violate it.

The thing when you effectively dismiss your restraining order against another is that the person named on the restraining order can apply to get it dropped/removed. The person who requested the retraining order can also apply for this.

However if you continually attempt to contact or meet a person you have a restraining order out against, you are unlikely to have it renewed at its term end.

Then you also have instances when the perpetrator then believes its ok to contact the person because they have been contacting them, then the victim calls the police and says it's been breeched but when investigations are done, the breech doesn't stand up and no action is taken. Then the victim says "the police did nothing when X breeched his restraining order"

The person named on the restraining order can also allege harrasment against the other if they continually attempt contact when one is in place.

It's messy. Really messy. I deal with it often in a professional setting.

Basically both AH and JD need to be referred to the Drive Project here in the UK. They work with individuals who are both perpetrator and victim. That's how I'd manage them. 🤣

Abusers DO back off when they know there is no chance at all of getting at or to you and there is absolutely zero reaction they’re going to get from you

^^ what a ridiculous generalisation.

I've watched a lot of the trial and I'm more inclined to think Amber Heard is the abuser and is making false accusations. Of course there are women who do this - not as often abusive as men are but there are still some evil women out there capable of anything. Women do murder people in cold blood sometimes - why wouldn't they be capable of making false accusations?
"Believe all women" isn't something I ever agreed with. Believe most women, not all.

The abuser has spruced herself a bit more today, is it cos Depp is testifying?

This is a good article from a perhaps surprising source.

Regardless of whether one thinks she is lying or not he has some truly despicable fans.

www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/amber-heard-johnny-depp-tiktok-trend-mocking-testimony-1350584/amp/

Someone has done a lot of research here, I applaud them
www.reddit.com/r/Deuxmoi/comments/ukgxe8/list_of_ahjd_abuse_myths_debunked/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

Very interesting, thanks Adam.

Reading through that and the links. It's excellent stuff, thanks for the link @AdamRyan

That article lost me on accusing an openly gay female police officer of homophobia. Is she not to be believed because it doesn’t fit the narrative that she witnessed the incident and took action.

There was no action taken, the charges were dropped. Tasya herself said the incident was a ‘misinterpretation’.

@IrisVersicolor There is always the possibility that she was protecting her abuser which is very common.

some of those myths haven't been debunked and are assumptions or do not show the full context.

Specious, given that Tasya has never reported untoward behaviour from Heard indeed commented publicly: ”It’s disheartening that Amber’s integrity and story are being questioned yet again. Amber is a brilliant, honest and beautiful woman and I have the utmost respect for her.”

Whereas past gfs of Depp have commented on his out of control behaviour.

Indeed during his libel trial, it was revealed that he had vandalized a picture Tasya gave to Heard. He allegedly changed her name to "van PEE." The court also heard that Depp sent a photo of it to Heard’s sister Whitney and texted "Can't stand that fucking hovering vulture." Heard claimed that Depp had accused her of having an affair with Van Ree during an explosive fight in 2013.

The court also heard that Depp sent a photo of it to Heard’s sister Whitney

Is this the Whitney that's on a youtube video showing her bruises that Amber Heard gave her during an "altercation"?

Personally I believe they were both abusive to each other and neither of them should be found as spousebeaters because it just seemed how they communicated with each other. Ugh. But I still think he will lose. I don't feel sorry for either of them I just feel sorry for the dogs and their staff.

However, I've read that piece that @AdamRyan posted but it's no different to me than ones just listing bad things she's done. There's no even-handedness. Any individual who finds either of this couple without blame or that it's all the fault of one party, should really think about their bias.

For instance, the writer said Heard couldn't have done the pooh on the bed because she was at Coachella. No. She was left in the apartment alone after Depp left to go to another house. She could easily gave done it then. She didn't leave for Coachella till later.

Or, the writer says no previous girlfriend accused him of committing violence against them but that doesn't mean he wasn't violent to them. Or that he might not be violent in the future. But by that measure no one has accused me of JFKs murder but I might have done it. Should I be waiting for a knock on the door? It's ridiculous. All this writer can attest to is that no one made a claim of violence. End of. And no one can predict what might happen.

As for the makeup compact, the writer says that the lawyer never said the compact was the actual one. She then quoted the attorney but, in order to justify her argument, she conveniently omitted these words from Bredehofts statement...
This is what she carried in her purse for her entire relationship with Johnny Depp.
She didn't say a compact like this, she said,

"this is what she carried...

I'm not going through other stuff because that deliberate omission shows the bias of the writer which makes her no different from the awful YouTube videos cutting things together to show false things about Amber Heard.

It’s the same Whitney who had an altercation with her sister and the same Johnny whose exes said he was crazy jealous, smashed stuff up and has admitted to substance misuse.

For instance, the writer said Heard couldn't have done the pooh on the bed because she was at Coachella. No. She was left in the apartment alone after Depp left to go to another house. She could easily gave done it then. She didn't leave for Coachella till later.

What would be the point if Depp was gone? She poos on her own bed for what purpose? She’d then have to clear it up.

I find the willingness to believe it was human rather than pet poo with zero evidence bizarre.

Or, the writer says no previous girlfriend accused him of committing violence against them but that doesn't mean he wasn't violent to them. Or that he might not be violent in the future.

No, that’s not what the writer said (and frankly the direct quotes are more telling than the writer’s musings) but anyway, they said:

Although none of them accused him of physically laying hands on their body, that does not mean there was no abuse. Abuse is not only physically attacking, punching and slapping someone directly. Johnny raging around these women, including wrecking rooms, throwing objects in their direction, is also abuse. It creates a volatile, abusive environment.

ie, abuse around you is still abuse even if you’re not the immediate target. That’s what women in abusive relationships are told every day.

Finally if someone says ‘this is what I carried in my bag for an entire 4 year relationship’ - you’d think compacts last for 4 years and it must be that precise one?

I carry lip balm in my bag the entire time, but it’s not always the same brand.

It’s the same Whitney who had an altercation with her sister and the same Johnny whose exes said he was crazy jealous, smashed stuff up and has admitted to substance misuse.

So Heard has physical assault claims against her and Depp has none against him.

What would be the point if Depp was gone? She poos on her own bed for what purpose? She’d then have to clear it up.

Because he came back the next morning to it. And her maid cleans up not her. And she had been drunk and on drugs the night before so maybe not thinking right?

Finally if someone says ‘this is what I carried in my bag for an entire 4 year relationship’ - you’d think compacts last for 4 years and it must be that precise one?
I carry lip balm in my bag the entire time, but it’s not always the same brand.

If you and I were chatting about holidays and you take a Nivea lipbalm out of your bag and say, "This is what I used on holiday." I would 100% believe you used Nivea and no other brand. Otherwise you'd just say, I use a lip balm.

But if a top flight lawyer, who makes their living out of using exact, non-ambiguous language, holds up a compact in court, points to it and says, "This is what she carried in her purse," then I'd expect it to be that one. If not, I'd expect them to say, one like it or similar. Personally I think the lawyer misspoke and I don't think it matters. But the writer of that article decided to make an issue of it, by saying Bredehoft never referred to a brand. But she didn't need to because she produced a compact and said, this one, not one like it, another brand, similar etc. I have no idea why the author feels compelled to defend Heards incompetent lawyers by even bringing the point up. It just compounded the bias of the whole piece.

I used the word 'violence' rather than abuse on purpose. The writer clearly says that just because he hasn't physically assaulted someone, he won't in the future. And the writing is clearly insinuating physical violence when she says Ellen Barkin claimed Depp threw a bottle at her head. But according to Barkin, Depp was in a fight with some other people not her, and there was yelling but not at her. Bottles were thrown and one came in her direction. It was not thrown at her head. Again, throw away words to influence the reader but they're not true.

As I've said many times, I'm not a fan of either. I believe that Depp has been violent to and abused Heard. Heard has taped herself being abusive and admitting violence against Depp so we know that's true. We know Amber has injured her sister. We know she lied about giving money to charity. But when he's on drugs, Depp is clearly a volatile, uncontrolled, inconsiderate lout. All this throwing things and writing with blood. Ugh. With no consideratioof the poor people who have to clean up after them. The behaviour if the pair of them is disgusting and I don't understand why anyone tries to put all the blame on one or the other.