Johnny Depp has played a blinder

[bennetmoore]

Johnny Depp’s legal team really have played an absolute blinder. He probably won’t win the case as defamation trials are nigh on impossible to win in the USA but he’s ruined her life and so that’s a win for him. I don’t think she’s necessarily an angel but a woman having a fairly brash/mouthy personality does not mean violent retaliation from the man is justified, nor does she deserve to be raped by the man. And no, I don’t believe Johnny in his 50s with his fame, money and power was frightened or intimidated by an early 20s Amber. He wanted a young, blonde accessory girlfriend, a ‘bangmaid’, so to speak. That’s why he describes her withholding drugs from him during active withdrawal (and it was said that this is the recommend way to help the addict during withdrawal) as ‘cruel’.


I know intelligent, switched on women who have completely fallen for the ‘Amber is Satan’ bandwagon. A relative’s wife who was a child protection social worker for decades in the USA, Kentucky, explicitly said on Facebook “I don’t believe her, she doesn’t act like the many abuse victims I’ve seen.” I was stunned. She also shared a post written by a man describing how Amber’s baby needs to be removed from her, Amber doesn’t deserve to be a mother, speculating that Amber probably physically abused her daughter etc. Also petitions to have Amber’s baby removed from her, which I think is absolutely vile. This is an actual living child, not a prop for entertainment.


I think Johnny knows exactly what he is doing. His laughing in court is vile, it reminds me of my abusive ex laughing and belittling me. Watching the laughing and his smug was actually very triggering for me, and the way Amber became anxious in response. He made a huge deal about being absolutely gutted about not getting to say a ‘proper’ goodbye to the Jack Sparrow character. Again, I’m not convinced. He’s trying to get people to see him as their favourite movie character in an attempt to get them to sympathise with him, I can’t believe people are falling for it. I personally won’t be having Pirates Of the Caribbean on in my home again.

[Pumperthepumper]

@SnowWhitesSM

They're both both @Pumperthepumper shitting on his bed was abuse. I'm not defending either of them, they both behaved atrociously towards each other.

They did, I already said so.

[AllThingsServeTheBeam]

@Pumperthepumper

That’s what courts do. Or don’t. But not believing people who say they’ve been raped helps nobody.

We'll have to agree to disagree. But there is no way I think everyone who says they have been raped absolutely must be believed. This is coming from someone who has experienced sexual assault.

[AdamRyan]

@SnowWhitesSM

They're both both @Pumperthepumper shitting on his bed was abuse. I'm not defending either of them, they both behaved atrociously towards each other.

There's no evidence she shat on his bed. He says she did. A UK judge who heard all the evidence said she didn't.
Why do you believe him over her?

[Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious]

We'll have to agree to disagree. But there is no way I think everyone who says they have been raped absolutely must be believed. This is coming from someone who has experienced sexual assault.

As someone whose been a victim I agree with you.

[Tamzo85]

@Pumperthepumper

It is low - but it’s not nothing. The percentage of rapes to false accusations is very low but given the massive number of real rapes that still amounts to quite a few real false accusations.

Its not really such a stretch to think that a woman who punches a man, has multiple personality disorders and is a proven liar who wants publicity as a victim of abuse might fabricate such a claim.

Sadly I know a woman with the same disorder as Amber who has fabricated a rape claim. I know it for a fact because I saw her story morph and change gradually over time and as she grew more unstable generally. It came to nothing and I don’t think she reported it but it was chilling hearing her say it knowing what she’d previously said. Perhaps she even believed it.

People have gone to prison over false accusations, but I’d say the amount of false accusations that are made but not even recorded in law because they’re just used as a payback or simply a lie made in the moment by an unstable person would be much higher than those that actually get to court.

[Pumperthepumper]

@AllThingsServeTheBeam

We'll have to agree to disagree. But there is no way I think everyone who says they have been raped absolutely must be believed. This is coming from someone who has experienced sexual assault.

That’s why conviction rates are so low.

[Pumperthepumper]

@Tamzo85

@Pumperthepumper

It is low - but it’s not nothing. The percentage of rapes to false accusations is very low but given the massive number of real rapes that still amounts to quite a few real false accusations.

Its not really such a stretch to think that a woman who punches a man, has multiple personality disorders and is a proven liar who wants publicity as a victim of abuse might fabricate such a claim.

Sadly I know a woman with the same disorder as Amber who has fabricated a rape claim. I know it for a fact because I saw her story morph and change gradually over time and as she grew more unstable generally. It came to nothing and I don’t think she reported it but it was chilling hearing her say it knowing what she’d previously said. Perhaps she even believed it.

People have gone to prison over false accusations, but I’d say the amount of false accusations that are made but not even recorded in law because they’re just used as a payback or simply a lie made in the moment by an unstable person would be much higher than those that actually get to court.

Can I see your figures for any of these claims?

[Theunamedcat]

@Pumperthepumper

I think they’re both atrocious and that relationship is horribly toxic.

But I’ve been really shocked by how many people think she’s lying about rape.

Probably because she literally took someone else's story and made it her own he got cancelled she should too the are both batshit

[nauticant]

I've always assumed that Depp having got beaten by The Sun in the UK court is taking out his narcissistic ego wound against Heard in the US court. Just another way of continuing the abuse.

[AdamRyan]

Is there any proof she has multiple personality disorders or did you just make it up?

[dworky]

Does she need to 'be an angel' to be a victim of abuse?

[AledsiPad]

It is possible to both believe Amber Heard is an abusive piece of shit and Johnny Depp is an abusive piece of shit. Put together it's a circus, and that's what we are now seeing play out.

[DogsAndGin]

Don’t worry OP - he’s not fooling everyone.

[Tamzo85]

@AmbushedByCake1

it’s very unsettling when you come across someone like this in real life

It really is, chilling in fact. it’s why I can never get on the “believe all women” bandwagon. Those tapes of Amber following him around from room to room were BPD personified in the worst way.

The people who don’t believe she could lie about all this either have never met anyone like that or are like that themselves but can’t see it.

[Pumperthepumper]

@dworky

Does she need to 'be an angel' to be a victim of abuse?

Yes, it would seem so.

[AllThingsServeTheBeam]

@Pumperthepumper

That’s why conviction rates are so low.

Believing every claim is not going to help though is it? You have got to see that.

I am just saying that I totally understand from words that have left Amber's mouth, why people would say she was lying.

I didn't report my rape. At the time I didn't even think of it as rape. Was I scared I wasn't going to be believed? No, that never came into it.

[Theunamedcat]

@dworky

Does she need to 'be an angel' to be a victim of abuse?

No but it would be nice if she could back up her claims with something

Sadly (for her) there are actual witnesses to her assaulting him and others

She tries to make herself look like an innocent he does not that's why she is failing in the court of public opinion for the most part if she had just told the truth admitted to doing the wrong thing it might come across as more genuine

[AllThingsServeTheBeam]

@Pumperthepumper

Yes, it would seem so.

Where has anyone said that?

[AllThingsServeTheBeam]

@AledsiPad

It is possible to both believe Amber Heard is an abusive piece of shit and Johnny Depp is an abusive piece of shit. Put together it's a circus, and that's what we are now seeing play out.

This.

[Tamzo85]

She may have a brash mouth but that doesn’t mean violent retaliation from the man is justified

Is violent retaliation from the man justified if she is punching (sorry hitting) him?

[Pumperthepumper]

@Tamzo85

@Pumperthepumper

Yeah, but it was her who put it out there with her article about abuse which implied Depp abused her (yes it was obvious and everyone knows) in the first place.
If she really didn’t want it to become a thing she could have walked off from the divorce with her huge cash settlement which was frankly undeserved and continued her high paying acting career and he could have gone his own way too (as he was until then). She really kicked this whole public aftermath off, she just wanted to keep it purely on her own terms and control the narrative.

Its hard to feel sorry for her especially as she is clearly violent, controlling and unhinged. Not to mention seeming really really annoying to be in a relationship with.

Here @AllThingsServeTheBeam

[Tamzo85]

Long story short this is just your typical hollyweirdo dysfunctional volatile relationship which has been going on for as long as movie stars have been a thing. Difference was in the past it would have just been called a volatile relationship (high in essence means mutual abuse) and left at that and both would have tried to publicly save face and act normal.

However because of Ambers article and attempt to cash in on the metro time that was happening shortly before she wrote it and her attempt to portray this as one sided abuse now Depp is trying to salvage some reputation or at least get the truth out.

[MyneighbourisTotoro]

I don’t believe her at all, he has no history of violence towards any of her partners, she does, she has admitted to physically assaulting him, they have evidence. She has massive inconsistencies in her testimony and has clearly lied which will be seen in the cross examination.
it’s unfair to assume a man is guilty just because a woman says so.
I’ve been abused, there’s no way in hell you’d ever hear me reflecting o how much I loved my ex or how he proposed to me, she doesn’t seem sincere or relatable to me personally and she is clearly a very toxic and abusive person.

[ObjectionHearsay]

My take on it is they both deserve to loose their careers over this.

Both are terrible spouses who behaved abusive towards one another.

He has lost his career, she has lost hers. I'd say that's fair.

I do think though if she does have significant mental health that can be diagnosed by a completely impartial medical professional and the child is at risk from emotional abuse from the diagnosis, that some appropriate intervention and help wouldn't be a miss. However if a impartial medical professional feels her parenting capabilities are ok, and she poses no risk of harm when medicated then there is no reason to intervene with her parenting ability.

[AllThingsServeTheBeam]

@Pumperthepumper

Here @AllThingsServeTheBeam

They are not saying that at all. You are reading what you want to read.

No one has said she couldn't possibly have been assaulted because she was an abuser too.