Insomnia friends - I will sleep well tonight because I have told my unconscious I will

[BeckyBendyLegs]

And here it is!

Actually DH is coming around to the idea of ADs as he sees that I need a bit of a break from this stress I am putting myself under. But I've been skepitcal about them too for ages and ages (partly because I felt so crap taking fluoxitine). I've learnt a lot more about them though and recently found out my niece has taken and is back on the same sort you and CountryLover take as she says she has had big anxiety and insomnia issues. She also said, interestingly, she's never had any problems coming off them (one of my worries).

Becky have you considered the possibility that you may be worrying out of habit? These things weirdly do become habits you know. In which case it will wear off if you continue to sleep well. So try not to worry about your anxiety??

Getdown how are you doing? Been lying awake thinking about your notes?

Becky thanks for the suggestion - I don't have anyone to stay with me but I have friends 20min drive away who know how flashbacks can affect me and if I were to text that I'm not coping one of them would jump in the car and be over. I also have this thing about not wanting to feed my anxiety as it may not happen at all. Plus I will make sure I'm not alone too much.

I actually slept loads - 11.30-5am then on and off until 8.30 - not feeling great though - grrrr

Glad everyone seems to be sleeping ok. Hope your neice is recovering becky. Did you go and see her in the end?

madmouse - hope you are ok when your DH goes away. We will be here to chat to, if you start to feel bad.

thanks re. my notes. It is quite painful reading, but at the same time I feel I need to read them, to kind of come to terms with what happened, and move on.

One part I read that I got up in the middle of the night and vomited all over my bed Then two hours later I got up again and went and apologised to all the night staff Another night I got up and urinated on the floor and . I refused to have my BP taken and ripped the cuff off my arm!! In my notes it says "bethan would not comply with our requests" I have no memory of any of this.

It makes me so sad because this is not ME. This is like another person.

we x-posted madmouse! Thankfully I wasn't lying awake thinking about them! I have started jogging and it's really helping my sleep!

Went to bed at 10pm last night and woke up at 7am!!

there is also a part where I was unconscious and they were unable to rouse me. The ward manager apparently said to me, "squeeze my hand if you have taken an overdose" - I squeezed her hand In my notes it is written "bethan responded by squeezing my hand"

I didn't take an overdose!! Weird what the unconscious mind will do!

not sure if this of any interest to anyone

Getdown don't even think about reading that - I know you and googling!!

Nah this one's quite innocent really

Sorry, I am convinced I have adrenal fatigue

Topsi no need to apologise - it was a joke for Getdown she will get it!

I have only briefly read the article - what makes you concerned you have it and what wil you be able to do?

GetDown likes to google! I was a google monster in January so I can relate - I googled everything and convinced myself I was going to die a drug addict...

Anyway, I'm having the worst day ever x hundreds. I've hit DH's car at the front and back and knocked over the neighbour's wall and DH reckons it'll cost a few hundreds. He's being so nice about it. He keeps saying 'it doesn't matter' but it does. We've spent so much money this month on my ring, a new bathroom, a new bed ... we just can't keep going like this. And then I throw away lots of money in a nanosecond like this and he says it doesn't matter. I want him to be cross with me! I feel sick to my stomach with anxiety over what I've done. I'm too scared to drive his car again. He wants me to arrange a couple of driving lessons to help with manoeuvres - do you think it'll help? I did pass my test first time but it was 20 years ago.

Oh and Topsi just realised that me saying it's quite innocent may not have come across to you as very helpful - sorry hun

only, the last thing that Getdown googled was Fatal Familial Insomnia.....hence the innocence comment.

Oh Becky just saw your news poor poor poor you - dh did things like this a few times and it really knocked his confidence and he is actually a really good driver!

Have you only recently started driving again? And advanced driving course may be good, but not sure how much attention is given to manouvring. Maybe parking sensors?

Be kind to yourself, it was an accident, it's only a car and no one got hurt.

I wish I had an excuse such as that I haven't been driving for a while but sadly, no, I am just a crap driver! I drive a lot. I'm just no good at judging distances when I am in DH's car which is far bigger than mine. I've never bumped my car (a Corsa) but bump his all the time (a Vectra). I said that if / when we get a new car it must have parking sensors!

I just feel so awful about the money and he seems so ok about it. I know there's nothing I can do to change it but it feels like throwing money away.

Things like that seem to happen Becky just when you least need them.
Are you getting a special ring? That sounds very nice
I think I might have adrenal fatigue, it comes on after long term stress. The description just sounds like me, especially the dizzyness on standing, insomia etc etc.
You can test for it with a saliva test. Just think that it's good to rule things out like Thyroid etc. If it all comes back normal then OK, but I guess we are all looking for answers!

I had a special ring to celebrate DS3's birth. It is white gold and has all three birthstones in - it is lovely. Now I feel I don't deserve it :(

Topsi it would be good to have an answer - maybe you do have adrenal fatigue. I get dizzy standing all the time, but then I've always had that. I thought it was a low blood sugar thing. I've only had insomnia very rarely really - most of my current issues are due to anxiety about insomnia rather than actual not being able to sleep.

Better go - DS3 awake!

Topsi I'm not particularly convinced by the rather semi-scientific tone of the article, and the lack of scientific studies confirming even the existence of this illness (obviously your symptoms are totally real!!!!!!!!)

The point of the site seems to be to sell supplements really? He lost me when he recommended 'liberal use of seasalt' to stop you waking up to wee at night....

If you feel your bad sleep has a physical cause have you asked your GP for some tests?

It reminded me of how I've been feeling recently and I've decided (equally 'scientifically' I hasten to add)that it was the come down after 1.5 years on adrenaline...St Johnswort helps with the down feeling but the tiredness is veery slow to lift.

Sorry don't want to be oveerly critical just get you the proper help you deserve.

Becky explain to me why you don't deserve a ring for giving birth three times because you di a bit of damage to the car....

:)

I can't.

well then, as they say in my line of work, I rest my case

No, I know the web site is a bit comercial and just selling his services, but he is repeating alot of what I have seen else where on the net.
It seems an interesting concept that is receiving more attention.
I have been so on edge over the last few years that it would seem reasonable to expext my adrenal glands to be knackered. And I do feel that part of my depression is caused by my physical symptoms, the dizzyness is so draining.
It is an established condition that I believe to be recognised now by WHO.

I can't find any serious or official source about this condition. NHS doesn't know it. Nothing on WHO either and recognising new illnesses is not really their job.

I guess it is possible for glands to become exhausted after all it happens to our pancreas and then we call it type 2 diabetes. So who knows.

I slept well last night despite it being Sunday (Sundaynightitus) and the end of our holiday (DH back at work today) but feel quite tired this morning. I blame DH for cooking bacon at 5am! No idea what he was doing but it's been hard to sleep deeply since he got up!

Madmouse is this the week your DH is away? When does he go?

How is everyone else? GetDown do you go jogging every day? Big respect to you! I wish I had the enthusiasm to go jogging!!!!

Morning Becky wow you slept well despite it being a) sunday and b) the day DH goes back to work. Amazing stuff!!!

DH leaves on Wednesday and gets back Wednesday after.

I'm tired, went to sleep early, could not drop off and I've been dreaming all night - DH even woke me because I was on his side of the bed

So woken up shattered and feel like crying. But about to wake my boys for a kiss and go to work

MadMouse sorry you feel tired - the time your DH is away will pass quickly and you'll come out the other side whatever happens. You are soooo much better than you have been right now and much better able to face the challenge and this is just another challenge to conquer.

It?s true I am a terrible googler Don?t know what I was thinking with that Familial Fatal Insomnia!! Adrenal fatigue looks interesting though?

I am definitely finding exercise helpful. I am jogging every other day, for 30 minutes with the dog. You do have to do enough to raise your body temperature (i.e. get red in the face and puffed) and at least 3 hours before bed, to give your temp a chance to drop again. The fall in body temperature simulates what happens when you fall asleep and so makes you drowsy!

In theory a hot bath 3 hours before bed can also achieve this effect, but you have to keep the water hot for at least 20 minutes.

DH is supporting me and increasing his exercise too. He has been swimming and doing weights

I did my yoga DVD after DD went to bed last night, which was exercise AND relaxing. It is so relaxing to connect movement with slow controlled breathing. I would quite like to join a class, but am a bit reluctant because it?s hard to find a class that is for total beginners. I wouldn?t like to embarrass myself in an intermediate class as I am so uncoordinated!

becky what?s happened about the car? I had a dream last night that I crashed my car, I think I was worrying about you!! Hope it can be fixed quickly and easily. We got a courtesy car when mine was in for repair which helped a lot.

Just found out DH has to work at the weekend We are putting off our TTC for another month because DH?s busy period next summer has shifted again (it?s such a moving goal post)!.

Hope you are all doing ok x

I am probably going to order
this test just to put my mind at rest at least.
You are right madmouse it is not recognised by WHO in the context that I am using it. They do have an article on 'burn out' from long term stress and I do know some of the more so called integrated doctors are treating it.
Well it's horses for courses really, I do believe that allopathic doctors don't have all the answers and are often constrained by NICE guidelines as to what they can diagnose and treat.
It just seems to fit me well, I don't really feel depressed at the moment but still have all these annoying symptoms.