Insomnia friends - I will sleep well tonight because I have told my unconscious I will

[BeckyBendyLegs]

And here it is!

Actually DH is coming around to the idea of ADs as he sees that I need a bit of a break from this stress I am putting myself under. But I've been skepitcal about them too for ages and ages (partly because I felt so crap taking fluoxitine). I've learnt a lot more about them though and recently found out my niece has taken and is back on the same sort you and CountryLover take as she says she has had big anxiety and insomnia issues. She also said, interestingly, she's never had any problems coming off them (one of my worries).

Oh no I have a cold. And when I went to bed I got that feeling of something stuck in my throat that I get with a cold. And that triggers old feelings and instincts and I panic. So then I can only think of that thing and how to get it out and I can't lie down because if I lie down it is harder to run away

So took hours to fall asleep and ds was screeching and trampolining on the bed from 6.45 although I still snoozed until 8 - he can entertain himself well bless him

So on with the day! Off to hospital in an hour to pick up ds's very snazzy new shoes (he's growing so fast atm!).

Hope everone's ok? Arcadia?

Hi All thanks for your messages.

DD slept really well last night from 8 til 7.30 with one wiggle that DP sorted out. I however was awake from 1.30 with a headache and feeling anxious, even tho I was exhausted, so ended up getting up to take paracetamol and a nytol. Did manage to get back to sleep then but felt I'd failed a bit .

Getdown i can imagine what you mean about them sharing thoughts and opinions. I think caring for a baby is particularly hard for me as I am a very verbal, chatty person and feel that is how I 'bond' with people (though DP is not very chatty! he's more of a cuddler!). I do love her more than I could have ever imagined but I am looking forward to seeing her turn into a person. I think that's probably a better way round than people who love babies but don't like it when they turn into people with their own thoughts etc.

Now I don't know whether to go on trying without the nytol etc. or whether to go back on them? There is never a good time to stop. I am definitely more anxious without them and seem to have more nighmares again . Any ideas? I suppose it's better than taking prescription sleeping tablets.

Also not sure whether to change GPs. I see two people at the surgery and not that pleased with either of them. it's a very small practice. The idea of changing is a bit scary though .

Sounds like you're having a nice hol becky and that sea air will be helping you sleep (as well as the wine )!

Hope your cold gets better madmouse and really pleased to hear you've been feeling so much better .

Arcadia how about you took a nytol last night because you needed it to sleep. There is no need to decide whether to go on them again or not. You just took one last night, that's all. Try not to overthink. When Nathan first started sleeping well it took me ages to adjust...

Madmmouse sorry you had a bad night :( and that you have a cold but so impressed with your 'ho hum best get on with the day' attitude. That's what we all should have!

Arcadia the odd nytol isn't a bad thing. And you are right it is far better than the evil zopiclone!!!! You're as bad as me thinking 'if I sleep well after a glass of wine with my tea then I'm going to turn into an alcoholic' thoughts. Glad your DD slept better. You will again too :)

Thanks becky and madmouse. I know I think too much! Just need to get on with it. That's why I'm looking forward to going back to work and thinking about other people's problems rather than trying to invent some of my own!!! .

Hi all! Sorry about your cold madmouse I know exactly what you mean about that feeling you get in the back of your throat ? a sort of scratchy, lumpy feeling. Horrible. Well done for just getting on with things today. Have you tried Kaloba drops? They can help prevent a cold developing, when you first feel one coming on.

I too had a bad night. Felt like I slept really lightly and almost felt conscious most of the night. Although weirdly DH said DD was crying at 2:30 and I didn?t hear her (or don?t remember anyway) so I suppose I must have been asleep. I was definitely awake at 4am as I looked at the clock (naughty naughty getdown!), and just didn?t feel drowsy at all. Bizarrely I was worrying about someone on Facebook who is the daughter of a work colleague (I barely know her) because she has just split up with her boyfriend? why do I let these things worry me it?s totally ridiculous. I am now worrying it?s about the mirtazapine. I dropped down to 3.75mg at the weekend. Am constantly checking myself for anxiety, low mood etc.

Not a great start to the morning. I dropped our phone base unit into the dog?s water bowl needless to say it?s not working now and all our cordless phones around the house work off this one base unit, so none of them are working.

Then I got into my car to go to work and a wasp flew down my blouse and stung me on the shoulder I could feel it buzzing under my clothes and couldn?t get it out, it was horrible. I ran back into the house crying and taking off my blouse and my mum thought I was a mad woman! (she looks after DD on tues and weds). It?s now a really hot, red, sore patch and is still stinging now . Grrrrr.

But onwards we must go!

Thanks becky re the pictures, I actually took nearly 300 pictures so had to edit them down for FB!! It was a gorgeous place.

arcadia could you take half a nytol tonight?

Just heard my niece took an overdose last night. She's ok, in hospital. My brother has reacted by being really cross, his partner, my niece's mum, is really upset naturally, and exhausted at the moment. I don't really know what to do. Her boyfriend split up with her just before she did it and when my brother's partner told him he said 'I don't care'. My niece says she doesn't remember anything about last night. Luckily she sent a load of texts before she did it, including one to her mum, otherwise doesn't bare thinking about... Anyway, that's my news.

oh becky I am so sorry! Your poor neice, and her poor parents.

Is she in a psychiatric hospital, or a regular ward?

Hope she is ok, what did she take?

Oh Becky

just marking my spot til tomorrow. sorry to hear your awful news becky.

Is she ok....is it depression

hope i can find this thread when i come back from hols?

Hope i can sleep whilst i am away.
Packed sleeping tablets and ear plugs for DS2 cos when i do sleep, i snore, so ive been told.

Hope you are all ok..and thanks for the welcome.
I will be back with you all soon. Keep well

Have a good time Alypaly - we wil lstill be here. If you can't find it start a thread with one of our names in the title and we will come find you x

Hi all, thanks for your kind words :) I had a fitful night - kept having weird dreams, as to be expected I guess. My niece has had depression on and off for a few years. She took all her ADs and anti-psychotic drugs (what are those, by the way?) according to her mum. As soon as she'd done it she put on facebook ' doesn't want to be here anymore' and then she texted a load of friends 'thanks for being a good friend, etc' and texted 'I'm sorry' to her mum who was downstairs. Her mum said that normally she would have just left my niece to go to sleep (she'd gone to bed visibly upset about something) but the text had alerted her that something wasn't right. She had a siezure when they got to A&E but she's ok. I don't think she is on a psychiatric ward. I guess she might even come home today. I don't really know.

how awful becky the good news, if there can be any in this situation, is that it's quite hard to actually overdose on psychiatric medication, you'd have to take A LOT. Hopefully she will be ok...

Anti-psychotics, I was on those for a while - mine were olanzapine. Horrible things. Make you put on weight and feel generally sedated and lethargic. They used to be called the "major tranquilisers" - and that is what they do basically

So glad her mum acted on her instincts. Seizure sounds scary .. how old is she, if she's under 18 she may be able to get a referral to the Children and adolescent mental health service, if she hasn't got one already.

Hope you are doing ok becky.

Oh Becky I'm so sorry to hear that, that's awful .

Unfortunately this is a subject that has touched my family more than once so it is difficult for me to say much, but at least now hopefully she will get the support she needs. Also, at least she did warn people which suggests that deep down she wanted to survive. But it's so hard for everyone especially close family.

If she is still young (which I think you said before she is, late teens?) hopefully this is something she will overcome as she gets older. Sadly this sort of distress seems quite common in teenage girls .

Hi guys, she's 23. Although she always still seems a teenager to me... makes me sound old.

Hi guys, we've had a lovely day in Borth - lots of blue sky and big waves. My stepmum went to see my niece today and described her as 'pale, shakey and like a rabbit in headlights'. Poor, poor thing. As soon as we're back I'm going to go and see her. Apparently she is very heartbroken over this man who doesn't even want to see her. He sounds awful to me. Men are not worth taking your own life for.

Anyway, hope everyone is sleeping ok at the mo. xxx

oh your poor neice

She will find someone else who loves and values her more than this horrible numnut.

I remember having my heartbroken at 18 but it was soooo for the best! I wouldn't swap my DH for anyone

Hard for her to see it right now, but it will work out I'm sure it will.

I had a good night last night. I went for a jog last night for the first time in ages and it really helped both my sleep AND my mood! Yay! Even had the enthusiasm to make scones with DD this afternoon!

Am definitely going to try and go jogging more often!

I'm sure we've all been through it. I was 21 and mine was a Norwegian. He was so mysterious and romantic with these gorgeous blue eyes. I was a student with him (we lived next door to each other in the student accommodation) for one year at the University of Amsterdam. He couldn't resist female attention though and then he had to go back to Norway and me to the UK. I pined for a year :(

Morning all

I'm tired....so many dreams and being woken by ds partying and by dh because I was so noisy I kept him awake and moving to the spare room at 4am to give him some rest...

dh has a stressful meeting and I wanted him to sleep.

right best get me and ds dressed for physio, she'll be here at 9am...

How are you all?

Please everyone tell me I am a really stupid fool! I went to bed last night after being pulversized at scrabble by DH (we're talking me getting 4 points, him getting 33 points each round!). Then I started to think 'oh god if I have a bad night I'll ruin everyone's day tomorrow' and the anxiety built up. I did fall asleep though at some point and did sleep ok but woke up with that awful, awful ball of anxiety in my belly that I always get after these sorts of worries in the night. It's horrible. I also dreamt my new glasses were trampled on!

Anyway, must stay positive. Feel a bit tired today from all the anxiety. Stupid anxiety about nothing.

Grey and rainy in Wales today.

Bit tired here DD decided to wake at 4 and none of us really get back to sleep properly after that .
I'm going to my favourite group though today so should be OK

Bit tired here DD decided to wake at 4 and none of us really get back to sleep properly after that .
I'm going to my favourite group though today so should be OK

oh dear! Lots of not so good nights... we will be ok though.

I had a strange night too with vivid dreams. At one point I shouted out loud "Miami!"

Not sure what that was all about.

at your nighttime outbursts GetDown!
Becky oh dear, I'll let you know when I get hold of this Relora stuff whether it helps with anxiety , I have chased them up and they say they are checking with the post office as I didn't receive it . Hope I haven't been conned!

what's relora?