Amy Winehouse and Karen Carpenter

[Youshouldbestrongerthanme]

Both absolute legends.
AIBU to wish I followed the same path?
At 45 I'm past it.

Trump really should NOT have become president though, at 70 or any other age. He is not fit for the job.

Also, I don't understand why some people - like Trump, and Biden, and Reagan - waited so long to go for these big important vital jobs. Trump is nearly 80 now, and really needs to be taken out of The White house.

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I agree. I think the whole thread is in very poor taste.

What makes you think that?

I agree.

Yes.amd look what a total dick he is!!!

Agreed, but look at what he has achieved as a total dick and imagine what you could achieve in that time-frame as a non total dick, the possibilities are endless.

@Itsthedramamick They're useful in that they won't tell you that what you are thinking of or wanting to do isn'tthe right thing to do. I respect that massively. Brilliant listeners but won't adivse.

Left what too late?

@Dymaxion He was also loaded!!

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He was also loaded!!

Or was able to hoodwink a lot of people into thinking he was ?

At the end of the day it doesn't really matter, what do you want your life to look like ? What makes you happy ? Focus on that, but at the same time keep in mind that the most unlikely orange immigrant born bouffant hairdo on the plant can get the number one job, and you probably out perform them on just about every scale of civility and decorum.

What rubbish - she was influence by that style but created her own unique style - all musicians are influenced by whats come before

omg you are really uneducated about music - pub act - i dont 5hink so

@CoralMumsnet Thanks. They really are great (but past it now for me after many years on). Definitely lovely and caring people who are so kind to give up their own time for free ❤️

Karen carpenter was def not falsetto 🤣🤣

Yeahk I think @Catsarenottheonlypets is getting Karen confused with Barry Gibb! 😆 Karen had a deep, low voice. Amy had quite a deep, low voice too.

I think you mean contralto @Catsarenottheonlypets

@Dymaxion Well I gave birth to two absolutely beautiful children. I never really got to be their mum though.

Is there something that has triggered these feelings and made you post @Youshouldbestrongerthanme ?
Can't say I am an expert in the human condition and my life is not one to be exemplified, but you know, you are probably a lot more fabulous than me, being able to hold a note of any description is not something I can even begin to aspire to, musically I am the one with a moustache banging a stick on a goat skin, in the corner of an empty pub, deep in the wilds of rural anywhere, only tolerated because someone once fancied my sister.

Well I gave birth to two absolutely beautiful children. I never really got to be their mum though.

@Youshouldbestrongerthanme I doubt that was because you didn't want to be.

@Dymaxion Oh no - absolutely. I would have died for them. Still would.

She had massive struggles with drug addiction . Clearly

I agree as well. Never liked her voice or her songs. I do think she was talented though, just not to my taste personally

I do the same job actually and believe me, most people could not do it

@BiscoffCheesecakes But considering I could be earning a huge amount more if was actually classroom teaching I'm not actually achieving my potential really. Don't get me wrong - I love my job and I love working with the kids I get to work with, but as someone who has been a qualified teacher for over 20 years I don't feel it's brilliant career-wise.
I try to hold on to the positives - a dad of one of my Y9 students the other day told me I'd been a " total gamechanger" in his son's life - but then I remember I need to somehow pay the bills.

That would not have saved them. They could only have saved themselves

I'm sure we've all experienced stuff in our lives that have affected us negatively but in the case of KC & AW it seems the pressures of fame were too much in the end

The pressure of both being criticised for their weight when very young probably didn't help. Not so much to do with fame, more society's attitude towards women and girls.