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Everyone thinks I have PND, I think I just hate being a Mum

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someonecallthethoughtpolice · 11/06/2019 20:23

Have name changed for obvious reasons. This will be long, sorry. But I think I need to get it out.

I have 2 DC, a 5 year old and a 7 month old baby. I was diagnosed with PND when baby was a couple of weeks old and have recently started seeing a Psychologist having been on a waiting list for a few months.

I love my children and there is nothing I wouldn't do for them. Everything I do is for them. I am entirely motivated to make sure they are happy and very well cared for. But I shouldn't have had them.

If I could go back in time and warn my pre-child self I would. I would tell her that if she has a baby it will be a relentless, thankless slog. Then just as it starts to get easier and she starts to get some semblance of a life back she will end up giving into societal pressure and her DC's constant begging for a sibling and start the whole nightmare all over again, later kicking herself for adding years onto what feels like a self-imposed prison sentence.

I really do love my children. But I don't enjoy parenting them. I find it stressful and boring in equal measure. The relentlessness. The repetition. The lack of freedom and spontaneity. The sleepless nights. The awkwardness of trying to force friendships with women I have nothing in common with because our DC's happen to play together at breaktime. Weekends lost to homework projects, swimming lessons and children's birthday parties. Sitting in a circle with a group of strangers singing "Wind the Bobbin Up" to largely oblivious babies and pretending we don't all feel completely fucking ridiculous. The illness, the mess, the tears and tantrums, the guilt and the worry that however much you do with them and for them it's never quite enough. I hate it all.

I want to be able to eat, shower and shit when I want without interruptions. To leave the house when I want. To sleep all night. To have the time to pursue interests and hobbies. To have the energy to have sex with my DH. To be able to consider career options based on what I actually want, not what will "work around the kids".
I want to be free. I often fantasise about running away and starting a new life in a place where no one knows me. Of course I knew it would be hard, I knew there would be sacrifice. But everyone always tells you "it's worth it". And I believed them.

Of course there are things, moments really, that I like about being a Mum. DD is so clever, she makes me laugh and I love how kind she is to her baby brother and her inquisitive mind. I love the smell of my baby's head, I enjoy making him chuckle and reading him stories. But it's not enough to balance out all the drudgery, sacrifice and above all, the loss of freedom. It doesn't feel worth it. I know it should, but it doesn't.

I feel like I've lost myself completely. I feel like I've taken a wrong turn somewhere and wandered into the 'wrong' life. But I have no right to feel that way because apparently it's the life I chose. So now I'm exhausted, not just from having a baby who won't sleep, but from having to enthusiastically play a character 24/7.

Before everyone piles in to tell me what a terrible person I am and that my DC deserve better, I know. I know I'm lucky and I should just be grateful to have two beautiful, healthy DC. I have a loving, supportive DH. I like my job. I have family close by. I know I have it easier than lots of Mums do. I know that it's not natural or acceptable to feel the way that I do.

I'm deeply ashamed of these thoughts and will spend my life doing everything in my power to make sure that my DC's don't suspect I have them. That's why I've never voiced any of this to anyone IRL, until today when I finally cracked and confessed all to my Psychologist. I told her that I feel guilty taking up her time, taking away a space from someone who is genuinely ill. Because I disagree with my GP, my Health Visitor who referred me to her, and those questionaires they make you do. I'm not depressed. I feel depressed but that's because I don't like my life.

Her response was "I think we should consider antidepressants". I felt like she wasn't hearing me. Or she didn't want to.

I desperately wanted to be a Mum but now that I am, it turns out I don't like it. How is that a mental illness? It's regret, not depression, surely? Yes, I do feel distressed, but so much of that is guilt because I know I'm not supposed to feel this way. And yes, I feel hopeless but that's because I have to live everyday in the knowledge that I've gotten myself into a mess that there is literally no getting out of. But apparently it's not possible to think that, on balance, having your children was probably a mistake unless you're suffering from a mental illness that requires medication.

So am I right in thinking there's no point in carrying on with these therapy sessions when my therapist and I disagree about the situation and from my point of view, there is nothing that can actually be done to change it?

If you actually managed to get through all that, thank you.

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YankeeDad · 17/06/2019 23:05

OP - you rock!

Your DH sounds pretty cool as well.

Spanglyprincess1 · 18/06/2019 06:55

Amazing update we'll done you!!
My friends back from. Overseas this weekend and I know how exciting it is to catch up!
Have a fabulous time. You are 100% good enough for that job just based on how elequant you are on here. Good luck

Apparentlychilled · 18/06/2019 07:10

That sounds fantastic, OP! So glad to hear it! Keep us posted.

Postmanbear · 22/06/2019 18:09

Just to say OP if the book club you are referring to is the girly book club I’ve really enjoyed them!
I’m on holiday with my 8month old and 26 month old and had a bit of a cry yesterday but was able to recognise that it was an understandable reaction to a hard day( life lol) rather than PND so I do think I am doing better. Still counting down to ending maternity leave though!

BertieBotts · 23/06/2019 16:55

That sounds awesome. Good luck with your application - and if it doesn't work out, you know exactly what to keep looking for!

detachablehoof · 23/06/2019 17:29

Hello, just seen this pop up in active threads and felt compelled to post as a lot of what you say resonates with me! I have a 4 month old baby who I very much wanted, but when she was around 8 weeks old I really struggled with PND. I was convinced that I was just tired and would be fine if only I could get some good nights sleep. I didn't feel depressed, just hugely regretful that I'd had this baby and felt trapped in a life which I couldn't enjoy. And also felt guilty for feeling that way as I know I should be grateful for a beautiful healthy baby. I also felt I couldn't ask for help and although my husband was very supportive I felt he shouldn't have to do too much at night as he was working long hours. I started to have suicidal thoughts (I felt it was the only way out) and at my husband's insistence I saw a GP who diagnosed me with PND. I have been taking Sertraline since then and I am actually now feeling like myself again and enjoying my daughter again :)

Sounds like you are getting better but don't rule out medication. I was convinced it wouldn't help me ("a pill couldn't make me like Donald Trump so how could a pill make me like my daughter?!") but it definitely has! It's only now that I am beginning to realise just how ill I was.

All the best!

PrimeraVez · 23/06/2019 17:31

Thank you for such a honest post. I can identify with every word you said. Mine are 3 and just turned 1. I love them with absolutely every fibre of
my being and I would like to think that they have good lives. But I am not a natural mother. I hate the impact that motherhood has had on my social life, my sex life, my marriage, my body, my career, my self confidence... everything.

The fucking ridiculous thing is that I really want a third child. I don’t know why. I hate pregnancy so it’s not even that. Confused

PicsInRed · 23/06/2019 17:36

2000s motherhood is very similar to 50s and 60s motherhood in terms of unrealistic expectations on women, lack of reciprocal expectations on men and almost total isolation of women in the home/baby groups.

It's notable that the 50s/60s housewives were benzo'd up to the eyeballs.

PetrichorRain · 23/06/2019 17:52

I feel exactly like this. My mum was a SAHM, natural mummy, loved every second of it (seemingly), and when I was younger and said I was worried I wouldn’t like it because I was never very good with younger cousins, finding them dull and annoying most of the time - my mum said “It’s different when it’s your own.” But it totally isn’t. I love my son more than life itself but motherhood is dull annoying exhausting slog. My mum died before he was born so I can’t even tell her off for misrepresenting! I told my auntie though, who made me feel much better when she admitted she felt exactly the same - and she has a great relationship with her daughters! Luckily too several of my friends feel the same so I have people to talk to about it. You’re not an awful person and I strongly suspect lots and lots of mums feel the same and self medicate, either with alcohol or cake, or are on antidepressants as a result.

PetrichorRain · 23/06/2019 17:52

And I’m trying to get pregnant again atm. I think I must be crazy!

PaulHollywoodsSexGut · 23/06/2019 20:55

@PetrichorRain
@PrimeraVez

Just have that baby. I’m there now. And as far as I’m concerned it just gets better every day if you consider the days after I left hospital with my babies the scariest and most stressful of my life.

Babies are tough. It’s ok to not “treasure every moment”.

Hotterthanahotthing · 23/06/2019 23:05

My DD is 16 now but I still remember the relentlessness of it.
You get through a day and it's all to do again tomorrow.I didn't do baby groups except for stories at the library when she was 3.
Work deffinatly helped asI had a place,identity and value there..Just talking about anything but your child and when you did being able to appreciate them abstractly.
I think it is tough that your councilor isn't hearing you.You may be depressed but because this stage is not for you.Its a shame we don't talk about this more so that the right support and validation for these feelings are recognised.
You are not alone.

Sunshine9218 · 25/07/2024 00:37

Antidepressants are a coping mechanism for when people are having a tough time, it doesn't matter if you are 'depressed' if they make you feel better.

lolit · 26/07/2024 16:28

TheAngryLlama · 11/06/2019 21:56

I also think people jump to PND as an explanation for these feelings now where in olden days they would have jumped to condemnation. Both responses are aimed at concealing the truth - looking after Tony children is boring, women are not any more adept at coping with it than men are, and some of us get fed up of it.

I completely agree. It's circumstantial depression like someone already said on this thread. You feel miserable because looking after children full time with no life of your own IS miserable!

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