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If I die can I insist dh takes dc to see my parents?

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SweetElizaRose · 02/04/2016 04:43

I'm fairly sure I'm going to die. I suffer terribly anxiety and recently have come into contact with chicken pox to which I am not immune. I have a strong feeling it's going to kill me.
I'm an only child and my parents will be devastated. Dh does not get on with my parents and I likely to take the children and go ang live with his mother. Is there any way I can legally put anything into place to give them some access? Dh works full time so I'd like my parents to be able to do some of the childcare. Also my dc are close to my parents so I feel they would benefit from seeing them as ds in particular will be very upset. Dd is only a baby so won't really know either way.

It's really worrying me. Or do I just have to discuss it with dh and hope he will be reasonable?

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Scarydinosaurs · 04/04/2016 12:54

Are you pleased? I really hope the doctor was kind, patient and helpful.

PrimalLass · 04/04/2016 12:56

No I've talked about the meds with dh again today and he says I can only take them if I stop expressing and feeding dd.

Seriously? Tell him where to go.

GinAndColonic · 04/04/2016 13:09

Do you feel better?

Did you talk about how anxious you are?

MrsKCastle · 04/04/2016 13:11

I hope the GP listened to all your concerns. Did you discuss your anxiety meds with him/her?

Fairylea · 04/04/2016 14:30

Just a thought but do you even need to tell your dh you are taking the anti ds if he's so against it? There are ones you can take that are safe when breastfeeding I believe (I may be wrong) so I would just take them anyway and just not tell him considering how unsupportive he is.

GinAndColonic · 04/04/2016 15:00

How are you this afternoon? Did your perinatal nurse get back to you yet?

GinAndColonic · 04/04/2016 21:31

How are you feeling this evening? Flowers

Miniminimus · 04/04/2016 21:32

Hi Eliza, hope you are ok. Glad you got the anti-virals if that will give you peace of mind for a bit. I hope the doctor picked up on the other worries and has helped restore some balance and happiness for you. If not, please keep asking and looking after yourself. Do not be embarrassed to ring the doctor again tomorrow for another appointment if the anxiety didn't get discussed today. Flowers

BastardGoDarkly · 05/04/2016 04:01

I've been following your thread Eliza

I really hope you told the doctor everything, you're not well, and I think you know that.

Your daughter has had 7 weeks of breast milk, that's fantastic, I wish you would consider formula now, it would save you expressing in the night, when you're clearly exhausted, and you could happily start your anti depressants.

Not that I agree with your husband, your doctor wouldn't have prescribed them if they weren't safe.

Please think of yourself Flowers

SweetElizaRose · 05/04/2016 05:05

I have been expressing for nearly 15 weeks now but it's my choice to keep going so I can't really moan about being tired! I want to get her to six months exclusively breast milk fed - which is what the WHO recommends. However if I get chicken pox I probably won't be well enough to keep getting up in the night to express.
The anti depressants are safe for breast feeding. Dh doesn't want me to take them is what it boils down to. He doesn't agree with them. He thinks I'm just tired. However he's never done a single night feed or got up with ds in the morning so that I can have a lie in so he's obviously not that bothered about the fact I'm operating on so little sleep. Tbh I'm awake anyway at the moment as I can't sleep because I'm so worried. I feel slightly better about me having pox because I have the antivirus but it won't help dd will it? She's so beautiful and happy and everything is going to be ruined.

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BastardGoDarkly · 05/04/2016 05:18

Eliza your husband is fucking useless. I'm sorry. It's going to be down to you to take care of yourself, which means taking the tablets prescribed to you, bollocks to his opinion on it. Did you tell the doctor everything?

Costacoffeeplease · 05/04/2016 06:13

Why are you giving your husband's opinion any thought - how dare he tell you not to take the anti depressants? He sounds like an unhelpful twat

Janecc · 05/04/2016 06:44

Hi Eliza. Just found this thread and read all the posts. Sending you lots of hugs.

Homebird8 · 05/04/2016 06:46

Eliza, I have been following your thread but found little to say that other more eloquent and better experienced people weren't already helping you with. I do have this though...

If your DH had broken bones and needed pain relief would he listen to you if you said you didn't agree with it and he should just not move?

Hoping you get a quiet time with your lovely daughter to calmly think through your very real pain and how it might be helped. Please keep reaching out for help. If your husband is not giving you any then your doctor, antenatal support, medication and MN supporters can be there for you. If he won't or can't help then it's ok to help yourself.

guineapig1 · 05/04/2016 06:56

Eliza, your DH sounds a bit useless. Can you go take the kids to your parents for a bit or get your parents to come and stay? I'm sure they would be happy to help out and it would give you a bit of a rest and some company.

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FarrowandBallAche · 05/04/2016 07:40

SurroMummy the OP has seen the GP. I don't think your last comment is very kind either.

AugustaFinkNottle · 05/04/2016 07:48

OP, did you manage to talk to the GP about your anxiety?

Footle · 05/04/2016 07:48

Eliza, your husband is more of a danger to your daughter than chicken pox is, because he is not supporting your health in any way.
I have a feeling you may not have managed to tell the GP everything. I hope you can talk to her/him again, or to the HV or perinatal support person you mentioned. It's urgent.

ForeverLivingMyArse · 05/04/2016 07:50

Oh Eliza, your dh is your biggest problem. You are having a difficult time, he should be supporting you.

Listen to the doctor, take the anti ds.

Fairylea · 05/04/2016 07:51

Footle is right. Untreated depression is the most real threat to your health right now, not chicken pox. As I said earlier I wouldn't even tell your dh you are taking the anti depressants, he doesn't need to know. When you are feeling better and thinking more clearly you will be able to see how controlling and unreasonable he is being.

Emeralda · 05/04/2016 07:55

Hi Eliza, I've been following for a while and I'm so glad you went to the doctor yesterday. I hope this thread is helpful to you and not too overwhelming.
Your DH is wrong, I'm afraid. You are not just tired. I have breastfed so I know what that tiredness is like. Although it will be different for everyone, I can tell that's not the whole story here. A good night's sleep would help but so would the anti-depressants.
Anxiety is like having loud music playing in your head all the time. You don't like the tune, you can't think straight but you can't switch it off or turn it down. The medication will help with that.
The "technical" term for how you're feeling is intrusive thoughts. Your DH is unlikely to know how awful that is or what to do about it but your GP will. People in general won't know what to do when you tell them about the thoughts because they're not real to them as they are to you. So it's like you're saying "I can hear this awful Black Sabbath song playing really loudly", people will reply, "no, I can't hear that tune". But it's real to you, just as the thoughts of dying are. You need to turn down the volume of the music in your head and the tablets can help. Hugs.

missybct · 05/04/2016 08:16

Eliza, everyone has provided really brilliant advice thus far, particularly Gin - we are listening to you Flowers. Being told to go and get help can sound very overwhelming and scary - believe me, I know.

Let me tell you what a fantastic Mum you've been already:

  • You appear to be more or less bringing your children, one of which is very young, up by yourself
  • You've done all of this whilst suffering from anxiety, and your own pre-existing health issue (diabetes)
  • You love your children dearly, which is why you are worrying so much
  • You've found you may be struggling, but you've kept on chugging away, and have now sought help for how you are feeling

Anxiety is like a parasite that coasts through your veins, polluting all rational thought. It almost feels like your suffocating, doesn't it? It's a bloody nightmare at the best of times - I struggled for a while to get a hold of mine and I was a single woman with no children! I can't begin to imagine how difficult it must be with one child and a newborn in tow! So, for this, please give yourself some credit - you probably won't, and I understand that, because I'd never give myself credit either. But that credit is yours, OK? Grin

It seems as if the GP appointment has helped you address some of your worry, but it hasn't really helped the fear you have towards your DD's health? Does that sound right? This is the thing with anxiety - we can take all the medication, we can seek all the advice, we can talk and talk and talk until we are blue in the face and exhausted, but ultimately, unless the anxiety is addressed, all the fears and worries and thoughts won't go away.

This is why, my love, your concerns are based on anxiety, not illness, not chicken pox, not vomiting bug - it's all about the anxiety - it could be any illness, any life event, any cataclysmic event, but the anxiety will ALWAYS win out. Because that, Eliza, is the (anxiety) illness - it's hiding there, trying to tell you to worry about everything else, convincing you that chicken pox, vomiting, DD being premature is all YOUR fault and that you're both going to die. The only thing that you need to deal with right now, for yourself and your beautiful children, is the anxiety.

Anxiety is like a really shitty ex boyfriend/girlfriend/friend who blames EVERYONE else for something they've done. It's bloody annoying, and after a while you cut them loose and move on. You can do the same - antidepressants (I don't give a fuck about what your DH says, if a GP has recommended them, take them), being open and honest with your GP/Perinatal Nurse like you've been on here, seeking help for Mental Health, either via your GP (therapy) or through counselling, and being KIND TO YOURSELF.

If you trap yourself in your house, DS and DD included, you are allowing the anxiety to affect you AND your children. Children need to be out and about, seeing the world, being exposed to life. It feels like keeping them indoors protects them from the ills of the world, but all it's doing is transferring your anxiety to them, and that, Eliza, will really affect them, both through childhood and into adulthood. Trapping yourself in isn't addressing anxiety, it's giving into it and allowing it to control your life. Believe me, anxiety (like the shitty ex boyf/girlf) is NOT worth it Wink.

FarrowandBallAche · 05/04/2016 08:36

Really good posts from missybct and esmerelda OP.

motherinferior · 05/04/2016 08:37

Eliza: a lot of people who may not know you personally but really do know what they are talking about are saying please take the medication prescribed by your doctor. Your DH is, frankly, talking out of his arse. You will start to feel much, much better and that would be lovely for you and for your children.