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dottymum · 11/11/2006 03:38

Ive a 3 week old son, a four year old daughter, my husband left a couple of weeks ago.

The baby is lovely, I adore him. My four year old's behaviour is terrible. I got up to see to ds, dd woke up, screamed hystericallym demanded i went back to bed immediately. She is over demandingm jealous of the baby to an extreme.
to be honest i really dislike her at the moment. daddy doesnt want her ad she is begging to see him. he wont see her. I get the crap for it,

I feel like i want her to go live somewhere else. i really really dislike her. I know she had a lot of upset, it isnt her fault, its me. Im horrible.

What am I going to do, I love my childreb, i dont want to feel like this. I dont feel depressed as such, but Im not myself at all

Perhaps its better for them both if i gve hem up and go away

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lulumama · 15/11/2006 21:41

Dotty...i do hope you are reading this.....there will be someone here for you anytime ..call the samaritans....call your doc..please x

fizzbuzz · 15/11/2006 21:42

Please post again....

geordiemam · 15/11/2006 21:57

We're still here for you, are you there dottymum??

MammyM · 15/11/2006 22:13

nononononono, it's not too late, just don't put them on the plane, you know that it's not the right answer for you, alternatively, go for a break, but don't give them up. You will be well again soon and won't feel like this, you just need some support and it's there for you. PLEASE! Your kids need YOU and you know that they do.

Carmenere · 15/11/2006 22:16

Dottymum you do know that your baby will need a passport to leave the country? As he is only 3 weeks old it is unlikely that you have one so it will take a while to get one. Please use this time to get help.

lulumama · 15/11/2006 22:38

dotty... i have to go to bed now...hope you are reading this...or talking to someone.....take care.....xxxx

changedjustfornow · 15/11/2006 22:55

just checking this works

geordiemam · 15/11/2006 22:59

Dotty, I'll still be on here for a while... just in case u wanna chat...

mumtogusnalbie · 15/11/2006 23:04

Dottymum - don't give up the most precious gift that God could ever give anyone.
It sounds to me like you believe that life is not worth living and if you send your children off on a plane, your biggest incentive to get help will have disappeared.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE speak to someone.
I am in Essex so not a million miles away - if there is anything I can do, please let me know.
You just can not give up your children, you love them and they love you - why would you want to lose that love by sending them away?
Please rethink - I am crying whilst typing this.
I am a single parent to two sons aged 4.5 and 2.5. It is hard work and sometimes it all gets a bit much but just remember how it feels to hold your children and see them smile - surely there is something worth clinging on to?
Don't do it, please don't do it.
Lindsey

changedjustfornow · 15/11/2006 23:07

ok dottymum - i've just read this whole thread - was on point of going to bed but i had to post here, i hope you read it.

i want to be really, really honest so changed my name, sorry ladies i hate doing it but sometimes it means you can help more imo

dotty first of all, as so many people have pointed out, you are clearly suffering from severe post-natal depression and you cannot make any sensible, rational decisions about giving up custody of your children while in this state in your head.

you need to do the following:

a) contact your GP or health visitor as soon as you can to say how depressed you are feeling and how you cannot currently cope on your own with the children. they will give you real and positive assistance and take it extremely seriously. they will give you antidepressants too and quite possibly some low-dose tranquilisers, sounds like you definitely need both. this should be your first step, right now, regardless of what else you then do. it is an emergency; make an emergency appointment; if need be, go to a&e. you are not worthless and you deserve to be helped.

look at it this way - if your biggest fear is that they will take the kids away - well, you're threatening to send them off to another country, so what could be worse? at the VERY WORST CASE they will suggest that the children stay with a family member (or foster family if there was no suitable family in UK) but their main priority is to keep mum and children near each other and to support you in your role as primary carer

b) get some practial support for you from family and friends. if your immediate family are not being too helpful or sympathetic, call on friends with children, MNers, anyone at all who could give you a break even for an hour or two. you must be EXHAUSTED.

c) get some emotional support for you while you try to deal with your husband leaving. you don't give any details which is fine but bear in mind it could be temporary and even if it isn't, he has punished you enough, you just need now to look after yourself and the children as best you can and not punish yourself more by splitting your family up. it is FINE to ask for help, my god you certainly need it, and you will need to start dealing with your emotions sooner rather than later..

think about the children, your new baby needs his mum and your daughter needs you more than anyone if her dad has just left, you may feel you are worthless and useless and nothing but honestly, trust me, THIS IS NOT TRUE, it's your state of mind, your hormones, your sense of worthlessness because your dh has just abandoned you so horribly, you are not thinking straight here and you need to recognise that.

it is hardly ever in the best interests of the children to be separated from their mum.

you say you and your daughter are very close. if you were a terrible mother, this would not be the case.

please, please seek some help.

if you've got a week to play with, at least explore the options i laid out above.

my own personal situation is uncannily similar to yours except that my daughter is 3 and i'm pregnant now. but my partner isn't around. i dread getting into a similar mind-set to the one you are in now, but i realise i might, i suffered with very bad PND myself after my daughter was born.

the thing is to recognise you are ill

surrender to that, and seek help.

it is not your fault.

you can get better. the children can get their mum back who they love and need.

please, please, nobody can do this for you. if you can't get yourself to the doctor, i'm sure someone from MN who lived near would go with you, or a close friend.... or failing that, sod it, get the doctor to come to you! they will, where a tiny baby is involved.

i promise this can work out ok for you all.

sending you thoughts and prayers.

truly hope this helps.

please keep posting.

xxx

clemsterdarcy · 15/11/2006 23:11

Dottymum

On December 17th 1999 I decided I was too much of a burden on the people around me and that I wanted to just disappear. At that itme I didn't have children, but I know how you feel when you just want to find peace from the cries in your head.

I spoke to one person who stayed through the night with me and brought me back from the edge.

I know now how deep a depression I was in and that when you are that low you just feel so convinced that leaving is the best option for everyone. You tell yourself, sure, people will be sad for a while, but they'll recover and then it will be for the best.

My friends and family said this to me and I pass a simple sentence on to you now ...

You are irreplaceable and very loved.

Darling, you are depressed and you are not mad. Anyone who has been through what you have suffered, coped with a newborn and a little girl missing her Daddy and some friends and family who aren't helping -- would feel depressed. Infact you'd be mad NOT to be down having gone hrough that.

But you know what -- you trundled on through your haze of despair. You fed your baby, talked with your girl, managed to sort out safe respite for them.

Therefore ...

Not only are you irreplaceable... you are a truly wonderful Mother.

YOU ARE A WONDERFUL MOTHER.

You are a brave, strong loving person who is suffering terribly right now. Let us and others help you.

These dark days WILL pass ... let them come ... and then let them go.

Think of your daughter's smiles and those of your boy yet to come.

You are a wonderful, irreplaceable person x

changedjustfornow · 15/11/2006 23:14

good post clemsterdarcy, you did the emotional bit, i did the practical

dottymum hope you can see a chink of light...

i've got to go to bed but really, really worried for you, i'm miles away from you but if you CAT me am happy to email or do anything i can to help out

MusicLover · 15/11/2006 23:26

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nikkie · 15/11/2006 23:30

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bobobobs · 16/11/2006 00:00

bump, are you there dotty? all we mumsnetters are here for you when you are ready to talk.
much, much love to you and your family xxx

earlysbird · 16/11/2006 07:18

Are you there dotty? Please listen to what everyone is saying.

kittywits · 16/11/2006 07:30

Dotty, you poor, poor woman. I can't really add anything new, there's ben lots of great advice and kind words and i'd like to second it all. Here's giving you lots of (((((hugs))))))).

zippitippitoes · 16/11/2006 07:49

Dottymum

Please do come back to this thread and please try to get help..

we are all very concerned for you and will help you through this dark time.

It is possible for things to get better although it doesn't seem like it for you now.

As others have said you can start today to use this time to get the help you need.

xxxx

lulumama · 16/11/2006 07:59

changedfornow & clemsterdarcy....what wonderful words.....xx i hope dotty is reading them...have to go off to do school run & playgroup..will check in when i get back..dotty.. you and your family were in my thoughts & prayers last night......xxxx

TroubleAndStrife · 16/11/2006 08:00

DOTTYMUM.

Please post, just to let us all know that you are ok.

Sending you Lots of Love xxxx

lulumama · 16/11/2006 08:08

DOTTY - PLEASE CAN YOU CHANGE YOUR SETTINGS TO ACCEPT CAT

there are a lot of people trying to reach you to give help.......please dotty...tried yesterday too..

ANY MNETTERS NEAR DOTTY WHO CAN HELP- maybe you can put your e-mail adresses on here so dotty could reach you .....?

have to go out now xxxxx

dottymum · 16/11/2006 08:10

..No my dad didnt turn up. My mother went to something more important with my sister and my father forgot he was meant to be coming.

..I have read all the messages. I didnt know what to say. How can I come back here, with all that positivity and say I want to not exist anymore.

I went to bed.. had terrible nightmares that I left my son under a table in a restaurant and forgot about him, and when I got back he wasnt there and I couldnt find him, and my daugter was on the phone to me but I couldnt find the house she was in.

I know ive nothing to lose. If I go with te children..i dont know. if i go, iknow i wont be ale to kill myself and im stuck feeling like this forever.

I cant go to the gp, or face the consequences of saying how i am right now.

Its like i was holding on by my fingertips and im falling and cant hold onto anything. now events have their own momentum and i cant change their course

I read people felt like this and have come back and been their old selves again, but ive no life left to come back to

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zippitippitoes · 16/11/2006 08:23

dotty

there are people who are ready to come and see you. they just need a way to get in touch.

You can send me an email here zippi at cityofmarvels dot co dot uk

I am in the midlands but if you look at this thread here

And enable your CAT so that people can email you via mumsnet

fizzbuzz · 16/11/2006 08:27

Go with your children, an then you won,t be able to kill yourself, if this is what it takes to survive then do it.

Although i know you don't believe (like I never did in your sitauation)that you will ever feel better, I can promise you one day you will.

Please please go to GP they will really help you, antidepressants will make you feel much better, and much more able to cope.

Your little son is 3-4 weeks old. In the next week or so, he will smile for the first time, and you won't see it, unless you go with him......please try and hang on for that first smile..

TroubleAndStrife · 16/11/2006 08:28

Hi Dotty

Would you please consider taking some of the help that has been offered.

If someone came and sat with you, played with Dd and gave you some space to think, maybe thats what you need.

No its not going to be a miracle cure, but the basis and first step to sorting all this out.

PLEASE PLEASE TAKE THE HELP...you are in my thoughts xxxxxx