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Still Autumn days in the village with lots of support for all kinds of MH problems - depression, anxiety, OCD, psychosis etc thread 2

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MySpideySenseTickles · 10/10/2014 15:34

The thread filled up!
I made a new one hope no one minds.

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Raftofdeterminationandlove · 20/10/2014 23:22

Hello. Can I join in? I have been following these threads for a while. I have depression and anxiety and I also have antidepressant withdrawal syndrome ( I keep forgetting to take them) so I am struggling a bit.

MySpideySenseTickles · 21/10/2014 00:37

Hi raft! I could never remember whether I had taken mine or not and kept forgetting, now when I get a new pack I sit with a permanent marker and write the date on each blister when that one needs to be taken, I always store them in the bit of the coffee machine where you put your cup, coffee is the first thought every morning.
So yeah, date them and put them in a visible place.

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Raftofdeterminationandlove · 21/10/2014 00:52

Thanks Spidey I have decided to put an alarm on my phone to remind me and my mum says she will remind me too. They are in a place in the living room which I can remember very easily Smile

I hope to get back to normal in a few days once I have been the tablets for a bit but until then I am vulnerable.

MySpideySenseTickles · 21/10/2014 09:50

Ffs, Dh is off back to the hospital, he went back to work yesterday but came home early, his knee and chest are agony he's having weird stabbing pains in his toes too. All this stress and upset because one stupid bitch can't look where she's driving!
I desperately want to go for a run but can't because I've got an awful cough and can't move without coughing so I'll have to have a week off till I can breathe again then it's half term and I probably won't be able to run then either.
Not bothering with makeup again either because Dh came home from work took one look at me and said "you look better without that shit on your face" so now I feel like crap.
Pissed off with the world this morning.

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EdwiniasRevenge · 21/10/2014 11:26

I'm just gonna sit back in my comfy chair in the corner of the village pub and rock backwards and forwards for a few days. I've crashed again. Big style. Speech slow and slurred. Conversation difficult. Agitated. In bed as much as dcs will allow me (half term). Sleep erratic. I'm trying to avoid going back on medication but need to get myself out of this crash quickly or will be a hard slog. I've even restarted crochet as that was very therapeutic last time. And I've come back to the wonderful village.

hope noone minds.

NanaNina · 21/10/2014 12:25

Oh Ed this is so weird to see you pop up as I was only thinking about you last night and wondering how you were - strange what pops into our thoughts isn't it.........so sorry you are crap again. I know you posted a while ago about relationship problems....have you seen the GP - can't remember if you came off your meds or not. Are you on them now? Oh and yes I remember the crocheting and how therapeutic it was for you.

Hello to other villagers (old and new) I travel along much as usual "in and out of shit creek" never know whether the headmonster will be awake or asleep from day to day - so exciting...... also have some physical stuff going on - nausea every day and well let's just say bowel problems. I need to see GP as it's been going on for weeks but I hate going there, even though I have a lovely GP. I always feel like a hypochondriac.

Honestly can't remember everyone, but sorry you're still struggling Fluffy I've been lurking so am sort of up to date but I know new people have joined....anyway can remember seeing Keema Fluffy Snowy MP collardove Spidey Victrix ooh am struggling now - ah yes I see you put in an appearance sometimes Silvery sorry can't remember everyone.

MySpideySenseTickles · 21/10/2014 12:44

Bollocks to Dh I feel a bit more confident with my tiny bit of makeup so he'll have to get used to it, till I get fed up of doing it.
Sorry to see you back ed, not sorry to see you just sorry you need the villiage again.
Why when the news has done nothing but shout about hurricanes and gale force winds was I the only one in the playground at drop off with an umbrella? Most of the kids didn't even have a hat on! I ended up under my umbrella with five 3year olds huddled up, the others cowered in the doorway from torrential rain.
Not sure if it was parents to blame for underestimating the weather or schools fault for refusing to let us in early.

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SnowyMouse · 21/10/2014 15:01

((( Ed ))) ((( NN ))) thinking of you both.

I hope your DH feels better soon, spidey

Welcome raft I use a dosette box, which helps me know if I've taken meds.

SnowyMouse · 21/10/2014 17:02

Well, CBT is over for a couple of weeks, it went ok. I'm just warming up the garlic veges from last night, yum!

How's everyone else doing?

fluffydressinggown · 21/10/2014 17:25

Sorry, I have been a bit absent, I hope everyone is ok and hugs for those struggling.

Collardove · 21/10/2014 17:41

Hi everyone :) well had my first day in my new job today and it went very well!
Did my hair lovely but arrived a mess with this seriously windy weather :(

I kept getting secretly very anxious that when I would start my new job, and that my new employers would have found out from my previous ones about my MH issues, and 2 months off sick this year. Then have some preconceived idea about me... But nothing yay!

It does feel like a fresh start.

Snowy - what do you think to the CBT? You do like those garlic veggies!! I have made lasagne from Gino D'acampos Italian cookbook. It's cooking and smells divine!!!

NanaNina - so good to see you back! I have missed you :) sorry you now have other issues on top of everything else.

Spidey - your poor DH :( maybe you should consider taking a personal injury claim against the driver? And yes it's a bit fooking windy today!!!!

Ed- I think everyone dips in and out of the village. It's a lovely safety blanket for support when you need it. Sorry you are struggling again. Vicard was asking about you a little while back, but she hasn't been on the thread for a little while.

Fluffy - you are a little quiet. Hope you are ok?

(((Hugs))) to everyone else

KeemaNaanAndCurryOn · 21/10/2014 18:13

There's a couple of threads in Site Stuff at the moment about how threads started by folk saying they're suicidal should be handled. HQ are taking advice from Samaritans and there's a suggestion by some, that if someone starts a thread saying that they intend to end their life, it should be deleted and an email sent to the poster with details of where to get help in RL.

The threads are there to read, but I wondered what folk thought on here? I know that once in a very dark hour I posted that I was planning to end my life on a thread and the support I got helped me contact RL services and I ended up in hospital. Because of that, I'm a bit biased as I know having my thread deleted and getting an email would've really upset me at the time.

What do you think? Is the right thing to do delete it or ban such threads?

SnowyMouse · 21/10/2014 18:43

I think they should get an email but still be able to post, people don't have to respond to threads if they don't want to.

((( fluffy ))) - how's it going?

That's so good to hear, collar! Smile Well done you!

CBT is ok so far.

NanaNina · 21/10/2014 19:46

Hmm it's a tricky one about the posts threatening suicide.......I have mixed feelings, and yours is a good point Snowy - I think on balance though that posts threatening suicide are not a very helpful thing on the MH threads - they can be triggering but taking Keema's point, there's a good argument for keeping them as they are. I have suicide ideation but that's very different from being suicidal and I haven't ever been in that position, whereas people who have might find that posting to anonymous people offers a tiny bit of release. It'll be interesting to see what Samaritans take on this is - I know that they never try to talk people out of suicide and ask them if they "have the means" and will stay on the line while the deed is done if necessary.

I'm trying to think if there is a "middle ground" between deleting and e mailing but can't think of anything. Can anyone else?

fluffydressinggown · 21/10/2014 21:34

Nothing is changing really, am on constants, still at risk of PICU. CPA on Friday with my CPN.

I am just worn down.

I think a lot of the suicide threads are cries for help, I mean that doesn't mean people don't mean it seriously but why not provide support. People are always quick to recommend RL help and A&E but in reality most people who are suicidal don't get the immediate MH support they need. I find it rather naive when people say go to A&E and ask to be admitted, because well, it just doesn't work like that. And I say that as someone sectioned because I am at high risk of suicide. Should my posts be deleted because I talk openly of my desire/God's plan for me to end my life. I have no doubts I will die but deleting me won't change that tbh.

Glad your first day went well collar x

NanaNina · 21/10/2014 23:01

I agree with you Fluffy - I too find it naïve when posters frequently urge people to go to A & E and ask for the "duty psychiatrist" - really? Don't think such a person exists - certainly not in the Mental Health Trust in my area.

My experience of suffering a severe depressive episode that landed me in hospital for 3 months started with a visit to the "Out-Of-Hours" GP and my friend with me. I remember having my head on his desk saying "I just want to die" and looking up to see him engrossed in his lap top.........he then asked my friend if I was suicidal and said if I was he couldn't treat me, I needed to go to A & E, said he's send them a fax - so we went there (it was 8.00 p.m. on Sat before Easter Sunday 2010) and a horrible receptionist saying to my friend in a bored voice "how long has she been like this..." I was then seen quite quickly but this was part of the triage system to see if I really needed the "crisis team" and he obviously thought that I did, so I waited and waited and waited and was vaguely aware of people with cut fingers etc sitting around. At 11.00 p.m. I finally saw the "crisis team" which was a CPN and a doctor (I found this out later as they didn't introduce themselves) and wouldn't let my DP or friend come in with me. They were only interested in whether I was a suicide risk (which I suppose is fair enough) and during the long wait my anxiety had subsided a fair bit, SO they sent me off with 2 x 2mg diazepam, and said someone had to collect some more from the hospital the following day - and to see my GP when they opened on the Tuesday after Easter.

My DP went to the GP surgery at 8.00 a.m. as soon as they opened but no one was allowed in until 8.30 a.m. and by the time he got in they said there were no appointments left. I have no idea what he said but about 9.00 a.m. a lovely young male GP came into my bedroom and knelt down by the side of my bed and held my hand. I was wailing that I was "so sorry" etc and he was telling me not to apologise. He prescribed more diazepam and said he's get a CPN to come out and assess me later in the day. He phoned later and said there was a change of plan and the consultant psychiatrist was coming out the following day.

Well HE came.........he was a large rotund man who didn't look at me at all, just sat asking questions and writing everything down. I was sitting shaking by the side of him and he ignored me completely - and I learned later had no eye contact with DP or my friend who were there at the time. He then said I needed to be admitted........and asked if I'd agree, which I did. I then spent 3 months on the "older people's ward" as I was 66 at the time with nurses and nursing assistants who were mostly very bored with people who were mentally ill and rarely talked to the patients or offered any comfort at all. The staff nurses busied themselves in the office and with meds and the nursing assistants sat amongst the patients but talked "around" us or over our heads. I was twice told by one NA to "pull myself together" and another one told me to "cheer up" - one or two were ok but in the main they were totally uncaring. BUT the conslt psych was a nightmare - the weekly reviews were a Q and A session between him and me........the rest of them (nurse from the ward, OT, CPN and GP on placement etc) all sat around and didn't dare speak. Everyone was afraid of him, and I felt very intimidated by him. When he was on holiday and another psychiatrist chaired the review the tenor was wholly different, with everyone feeling free to talk openly.

I was discharged after 3 months though not completely recovered but the bright spot was I had a lovely CPN for a year, and when she left the area she passed me on to her colleague who was even more lovely and has been hugely supportive to this day.

Sorry folks - I don't know what brought that on - just ignore me! I've even heard posters advising others to "go into hospital" for a while for a "break" like it's like booking yourself into a Travel Lodge. I know that MH services nationally are really stretched because of budget cuts and patients needing IP care (and I use the term loosely) are having to be transported miles away from their home area - just what you need when you're an IP! This damn government keep yabbering on about MH services having parity with physical health while at the same time slashing the MH budgets. And it's not gonna get better any time soon. There's someone on another thread who is bipolar and needs to be an IP because of SH risk and there are no beds.

I certainly don't think your posts should be deleted Fluffy sad as it is to know that you are suffering so much. I think the difference is that people know you're in hospital and so are being kept safe (if nothing else) even though I know you've said before you don't want to be safe. Hope things get better for you.........life has dealt you a shit card for sure.

MySpideySenseTickles · 22/10/2014 06:58

I was suicidal when I started visiting the villiage, I still think in a way it would be easier than fighting but the difference is I admitted to people here how I felt and they were supportive and encouraged me to see my gp, which in turn has helped and I'm having more good days than bad at the moment, but had I posted how I was feeling and just had the post deleted and an email from hq I'd have probably given up, I'm all for getting advice from the Samaritans and making sure people get directed towards help they might need but from my experience had my posts been deleted and I not had the support from mners I'd have done it.

The thing about it that frightens me is that if they do decide to delete any threads mentioning suicide it'll become an even more taboo subject and people won't ask for help. Weird as it sounds it helped me to know that other people were living with the same thoughts and feelings I am. I wouldn't wish it on anybody but it helps to know you're not alone.

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MySpideySenseTickles · 22/10/2014 07:01

Rather than sweeping subjects that may make people uncomfortable under the carpet we should be speaking openly about it so people get used to the idea that others feel like that and they're not alone.

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NanaNina · 22/10/2014 15:23

I think spidey the difference is between those of us who say we feel suicidal, or would just like to "end it all" or "go to sleep and not wake up" etc., which is how severe depression can make us feel, and the posters who say they are definitely going to take their own life, sort of there and then IFYSWIM.....I think this issue has arisen with MNHQ because of a recent post - "Tonight I say Goodbye" and it was someone saying they were definitely ending it.........and it got so many people worried - there were loads of posts, which might or might not have helped, who knows. Fortunately she survived and she has a DH who I think came home in time to prevent anything sinister happening.

MNHQ popped up a few times, giving numbers the OP could phone etc and then they deleted the thread as the OP's DH posted to say his wife was safe and they were getting help.

Anyone want to join me up shit creek without a paddle today??

EdwiniasRevenge · 22/10/2014 15:27

I'm up shit Creek. ...hoping someone else has a paddle I can use

Victrix · 22/10/2014 15:57

I'm just sort of camping up the creek at the moment.

NanaNina · 22/10/2014 17:10

Ha! Sorry Ed no paddle here today - hoping for one later in the week (or possibly by about 10 tonight)....does anyone else find they feel less awful in the evening after a crap day. It's always been like this for me the timing of the lift is dependent on how crap the day has been.

Victrix I almost smiled at your camping site. Almost.

SnowyMouse · 22/10/2014 17:20

No paddle here either Hmm

Mentalpsychiatrist · 22/10/2014 17:25

I don't have a boat let alone a paddle

Pulledapart · 22/10/2014 17:29

I'm freezing it's so cold

No boat or paddle here neither Hmm

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