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Feeling very suicidal

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EnpoTree · 10/10/2014 00:30

Not a new poster but a new name; please don't out me if you recognise me. Long, sorry.

I have a fairly good plan involving large amounts of propranolol (about 3.3g), some diazepam and codeine to make the whole thing less unpleasant, and some metoclopramide or prochlorperazine to prevent throwing it up. I have several very good reasons to kill myself and am scared of the part of myself which makes and carries out plans like this (I have been very nearly successful before).

I can't talk to people in my life and can't fix any of my problems. I've been spending the last few weeks (when I look back at them) wrecking my life by spending all my money, having sex with all the wrong people, and taking all the wrong drugs. I've realised over the last few hours that I have no friends and have been noticing and identifying the exact flaws which cause me to lose all my friends. I can do nothing to help my only friend who is ill and doesn't know it, her drug-dealer boyfriend is sexually jealous of me and knows where I live, my friend has begun to realise why most people don't stay my friends for long, I have alienated everyone except my DP who would be far better off wihtout me fucking him over, and I arrived home today stoned and paranoid to a really shitty online situation.

Ive also been experiencing powerful obsessions over the last few days involving stabbing myself with a knife in the belly or neck and cannot stop thinking about it, which is no way to live. I'm nearly thirty and have not yet been a normal adult.

As far as I understand the propranolol has a good chance of causing some kind of CV disruption in doses over 3g and with any luck there should be some extra bradycardia and CNS depression from the other drugs. But then I was fairly confident about some of the other combinations I have researched similarly, and have also come across suggestions that this might not work. But I'm also scared of the consequences of failure. I will not go into a hospital again - it's worse than death - and I won't take medication. But if I tell anyone in my real life that I'm worried that the part of me that wants death is bigger and darker than it was, I suspect I will be strongly encouraged to take drugs. If I attempt and fail I might be made to take drugs or be "persuaded" to go into hospital. I'm not sure I can convince myself not to do it and there should be things I can do to increase the chances of success. But i'm also scared I might be making the wrong decision.

Fuck.

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EnpoTree · 11/10/2014 18:05

Hi myrtle

Thanks Smile

I think I should shut up though; I fear I am talking myself down.

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myrtleWilson · 11/10/2014 18:09

Can I ask a random question...is enpo tree an actual tree?

EnpoTree · 11/10/2014 18:12

Not as far as I'm aware - it's just supposed to be a spoonerism of "entropy".

Do I mean spoonerism? I'm not sure now.

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myrtleWilson · 11/10/2014 18:23

Ahh...that makes sense now! I'm rubbish at usernames. One on here that took me ages to get was SirChenjin.. There's probably a thesis to be written analysing the psychology of forum user names

EnpoTree · 11/10/2014 18:28

I like SirCh's name too and it took Mr a surprisingly long period of time to get it - though I choose to believe that those of us who struggle with puns when they're in written form are simply non-sub-vocalising readers, and therefore have the potential to become speed-readers more easily than those who hear the words in their heads when they read.

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EnpoTree · 11/10/2014 18:28

took me

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myrtleWilson · 11/10/2014 18:36

Haha! Love it, I'm going to borrow that thinking if you don't mind! Aside from the obvious..how's your day been?

EnpoTree · 11/10/2014 19:01

Oh - kind of okay. Sat through the F1 quali that DP likes to watch, got flu jabs with DP, went to Sainsbury's with DP and bought fruit and dairy products. DP bought us coffees at Starbucks. Mostly a DP- determined day frankly. I am going along with it but he's just said I haven't seemed myself the last few days so I must be doing a worse job than I thought of appearing normal. Though recent normal has been very different to usual normal and far harder to maintain.

How about you myrtle - good day?

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PiperIsOrange · 11/10/2014 19:04

Sounds like you have had a nice day, nice to see.

DP sounds wonderful.

EnpoTree · 11/10/2014 19:08

Yes, unfortunately, he's lovely and doesn't deserve to have to put up with me and my crapness. I sometimes wonder if I should break up with him first if I were going to kill myself. I know he would feel upset otherwise cause he's a nice guy.

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myrtleWilson · 11/10/2014 19:15

You're day sounds quite like mine.... I do sometimes wonder how much time I spend in Sainsburys. I'm sure your DP doesnt see you as someone to put up with and I speak from his side of the fence. My DH suffers from depression and has had suicidal thoughts and I've never thought i put up with him.

EnpoTree · 11/10/2014 19:20

I'm a disloyal supermarket shopper. I seem to spend hours in all of them. Except Aldi, it's bloody miles away.

Your DP probably hasn't treated you like I've treated mine. I've done very bad things.

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EnpoTree · 11/10/2014 19:22

Anyway. It's good to hear that his depression hasn't got between you in that way.

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PiperIsOrange · 11/10/2014 19:52

He loves you, and I always think if you can't love me at my worse you can't have me at my best.

myrtleWilson · 11/10/2014 21:57

Sorry Enpo, got Dr who'd - I agree with Piper

EnpoTree · 12/10/2014 02:22

Why won't he just go to bloody bed? I want and need to be on my own. If I go upstairs he'll decide he needs to go up too. Keep getting in stupid niggly arguments that are all my fault but still the bugger won't go. Argh fuck bollock. I hate the nights.

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EnpoTree · 12/10/2014 05:07

What did you think of the Doctor Who?

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EnpoTree · 12/10/2014 11:10

Sorry never mind.

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myrtleWilson · 12/10/2014 11:24

I enjoyed it Enpo, my daughter is less keen on the new Dr but she had enough you tube videos to watch for months on end! What are your plans today?

EnpoTree · 12/10/2014 11:43

I don't know. I'm really tired.

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EnpoTree · 13/10/2014 16:30

Well today I saw a duty worker at the CMHT who was very nice but essentially confirmed that there's not much that they can do for me except for the various local crisis and out of hours services to talk to. But she also confirmed I'm unlikely to be coerced into any treatment I don't want, which is good, I suppose.

So that was my last-ditch please-help-me route, but I don't know what else I thought I was expecting.

Then I went to the GP and got 100x30mg codeine, which is helpful. I didn't even go in asking for it - I went in to discuss contraception and was asked about migraines, and while explaining what drugs I take for it and why I happened to mention that I have to avoid paracetamol in case I need to take my cocodamol.

It's a lot easier to take in large quantities than the cocodamol because that stuff is effervescent and also paracetamol in large quantities makes me sick.

I wonder if the GP is actually well aware of that and the fact I've just been referred to CMHT for suicidal thoughts, and is providing a slightly more effective and less painful method for me.

I know that sounds unlikely. But it does seem very convenient.

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EnpoTree · 13/10/2014 16:59

I realise that this is almost certainly not the case as it would contravene medical ethics and I doubt any doctor would risk their job just to provide codeine to someone to overdose with.

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EnpoTree · 14/10/2014 17:27

Thanks to all of you for all your support. I'm feeling a lot better now and have support from MH services so will be hopefully leaving and not coming back under this name.

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PiperIsOrange · 14/10/2014 17:49

I am so relieved to hear you feel a lot better.

I will say goodbye and good luck in the future.

Don't forget we are here if you ever need to again.

Well done Thanks

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