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Feeling very suicidal

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EnpoTree · 10/10/2014 00:30

Not a new poster but a new name; please don't out me if you recognise me. Long, sorry.

I have a fairly good plan involving large amounts of propranolol (about 3.3g), some diazepam and codeine to make the whole thing less unpleasant, and some metoclopramide or prochlorperazine to prevent throwing it up. I have several very good reasons to kill myself and am scared of the part of myself which makes and carries out plans like this (I have been very nearly successful before).

I can't talk to people in my life and can't fix any of my problems. I've been spending the last few weeks (when I look back at them) wrecking my life by spending all my money, having sex with all the wrong people, and taking all the wrong drugs. I've realised over the last few hours that I have no friends and have been noticing and identifying the exact flaws which cause me to lose all my friends. I can do nothing to help my only friend who is ill and doesn't know it, her drug-dealer boyfriend is sexually jealous of me and knows where I live, my friend has begun to realise why most people don't stay my friends for long, I have alienated everyone except my DP who would be far better off wihtout me fucking him over, and I arrived home today stoned and paranoid to a really shitty online situation.

Ive also been experiencing powerful obsessions over the last few days involving stabbing myself with a knife in the belly or neck and cannot stop thinking about it, which is no way to live. I'm nearly thirty and have not yet been a normal adult.

As far as I understand the propranolol has a good chance of causing some kind of CV disruption in doses over 3g and with any luck there should be some extra bradycardia and CNS depression from the other drugs. But then I was fairly confident about some of the other combinations I have researched similarly, and have also come across suggestions that this might not work. But I'm also scared of the consequences of failure. I will not go into a hospital again - it's worse than death - and I won't take medication. But if I tell anyone in my real life that I'm worried that the part of me that wants death is bigger and darker than it was, I suspect I will be strongly encouraged to take drugs. If I attempt and fail I might be made to take drugs or be "persuaded" to go into hospital. I'm not sure I can convince myself not to do it and there should be things I can do to increase the chances of success. But i'm also scared I might be making the wrong decision.

Fuck.

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EnpoTree · 10/10/2014 08:42

I won't be sectioned. I am not sectionable and have been made to go to hospital before only via lies and manipulation and being threatened with the section they can't do.

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EnpoTree · 10/10/2014 08:43

What can I ask the GP for that isn't drugs?

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NameChange30 · 10/10/2014 08:45

Emergency referral to a psychiatrist (as certifiedloon suggested). Or if you don't think your GP will help you could go to A&E:

"An emergency referral to a psychiatrist sounds like a sensible plan, and your GP can arrange this. Or you could go to A&E and ask for the psych assessment team to see you?"

certifiedloon · 10/10/2014 08:45

An emergency referral to a psychologist or psychiatrist?

Crisis services - maybe the home treatment team to come and visit you regularly to talk things through and keep you safe?

What do you want? Deep down...what do you need?

It makes me so sad that you feel this low. Have been there myself and when I look back on it with hindsight vision I can see that I really, really bloody needed some support.

purplemeggie · 10/10/2014 09:31

Another one pleased to see your posts this morning, especially the one saying you want to live. Please see your GP, and don't wait until Monday. Take care x

PiperIsOrange · 10/10/2014 10:50

You are not annoying, you are in a very dark place so you are about to not be thinking straight.

EnpoTree · 10/10/2014 12:46

I made an appointment for this afternoon but it's with the world's most noncommittal GP who always just nods and goes, "Mmm" no matter what you say. Like,
"I want to kill myself."
"Mmm."
"I'm scared I might do it."
"Mmm."
"I'm actually the Pope."
"Mmm."

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PiperIsOrange · 10/10/2014 13:16

I'm glad you are going to the doctors, wishing you all the luck in the world

PiperIsOrange · 10/10/2014 13:16

I'm glad you are going to the doctors, wishing you all the luck in the world

EnpoTree · 10/10/2014 13:20

Thanks. I'm freaking out a bit. I just received a copy of a referral letter to an ASD specialist from a psychiatrist who wants me to be assessed for that after being contacted by my GP so am a bit argh.

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EnpoTree · 10/10/2014 13:40

And just received some trousers I ordered through the post, 2 pairs the same, god only knows why, and they're the wrong size and are going to cost a fortune to return. I fuck everything up

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PiperIsOrange · 10/10/2014 16:16

You could always sell them on eBay or selling sites.

Don't be so hard on yourself.

PiperIsOrange · 10/10/2014 16:16

You could always sell them on eBay or selling sites.

Don't be so hard on yourself.

EnpoTree · 10/10/2014 17:22

Saw GP. GP faxed request to see me "urgent" same day for cmht with misquote of my words and the same slanderous inaccurate diagnosis off my records that I was accused of as a child despite it not being diGnosablr in children

And was told off for swearing
I'm fycking scared and angry

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EnpoTree · 10/10/2014 17:23

The labels aren't stuck on but tattooed

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EnpoTree · 10/10/2014 19:00

It's so horrible; I can't shake this feeling at all - just did an hour and a half in the gym and still feel agitated. I'm going for a run to see if that will help. Now I know that the GP has quoted words I didn't say (in actual quote marks) and repeated a decade and a half year old wrong diagnosis, I'm despairing of getting any appropriate help whatsoever.

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windchimes23 · 10/10/2014 19:09

Nothing helpful to add really, but hope you are ok. Seeking help is good x

EnpoTree · 10/10/2014 19:48

Seeking help from the people who ruined my body and mind in the first place. Perhaps not my best move. TBH this has all reminded me why I disengaged with services in the first place. I now have no more help or support than I did before I went to the GP, but with the added stress of knowing that the same old rubbish is being passed around about me. No psychiatrist in the last decade has told me I have a PD, and the most recent one specifically told me I don't and can't meet the criteria for PD, and am a long way off meeting them, but still the labelnis passed back and forth, each time with a new updated date stamp on it so it appears recent and relevant. Bastards. Bastards bastards bastards. I can only assume they agree I'm better off dead if they're so sure I'm unfixable.

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EnpoTree · 10/10/2014 20:29

Oh well. Just me alone again, excepting of course support from other nonprofessionals (whom of course if would be unfair to rely on too much). Self-reliance or something.

I could always try ringing the crisis team if it gets too bad to cope with tonight. My experience with the crisis team is, however, not good.

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PiperIsOrange · 10/10/2014 21:04

I'm still here and still reading.

EnpoTree · 10/10/2014 21:09

I'm sorry, I think I may have accidentally implied something I didn't mean.

I alienate and piss off everyone.

I didn't mean to say I was alone on here - just in RL.

Sorry Sad

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myrtleWilson · 10/10/2014 21:18

I've just read thread and am here listening too

PiperIsOrange · 10/10/2014 21:23

EnpoTree, stop saying sorry.

You are not pissing me off and I am here for you. Sometimes when I post and nobody answers I tend to think people don't care.

I'm just reassuring you that I am still here and still reading and listening.

EnpoTree · 10/10/2014 21:27

Thankyou, I misread your post and shouldn't have.

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Faacksake · 10/10/2014 22:28

Hi Enpo just checking in on you. Been thinking of you today. Sorry I haven't been online.

Your doctor sounds like an freemcdonalds.herokuapp.com.

How are you feeling now? Iv got no decent advice I'm afraid but il listen if you want to talk.

There's some very nice caring women on this thread Thanks with good advice