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Feeling very suicidal

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EnpoTree · 10/10/2014 00:30

Not a new poster but a new name; please don't out me if you recognise me. Long, sorry.

I have a fairly good plan involving large amounts of propranolol (about 3.3g), some diazepam and codeine to make the whole thing less unpleasant, and some metoclopramide or prochlorperazine to prevent throwing it up. I have several very good reasons to kill myself and am scared of the part of myself which makes and carries out plans like this (I have been very nearly successful before).

I can't talk to people in my life and can't fix any of my problems. I've been spending the last few weeks (when I look back at them) wrecking my life by spending all my money, having sex with all the wrong people, and taking all the wrong drugs. I've realised over the last few hours that I have no friends and have been noticing and identifying the exact flaws which cause me to lose all my friends. I can do nothing to help my only friend who is ill and doesn't know it, her drug-dealer boyfriend is sexually jealous of me and knows where I live, my friend has begun to realise why most people don't stay my friends for long, I have alienated everyone except my DP who would be far better off wihtout me fucking him over, and I arrived home today stoned and paranoid to a really shitty online situation.

Ive also been experiencing powerful obsessions over the last few days involving stabbing myself with a knife in the belly or neck and cannot stop thinking about it, which is no way to live. I'm nearly thirty and have not yet been a normal adult.

As far as I understand the propranolol has a good chance of causing some kind of CV disruption in doses over 3g and with any luck there should be some extra bradycardia and CNS depression from the other drugs. But then I was fairly confident about some of the other combinations I have researched similarly, and have also come across suggestions that this might not work. But I'm also scared of the consequences of failure. I will not go into a hospital again - it's worse than death - and I won't take medication. But if I tell anyone in my real life that I'm worried that the part of me that wants death is bigger and darker than it was, I suspect I will be strongly encouraged to take drugs. If I attempt and fail I might be made to take drugs or be "persuaded" to go into hospital. I'm not sure I can convince myself not to do it and there should be things I can do to increase the chances of success. But i'm also scared I might be making the wrong decision.

Fuck.

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EnpoTree · 10/10/2014 01:10

Yes Faack

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Faacksake · 10/10/2014 01:11

It's not the answer OP it sounds like your on a nasty come down. Have you got any orange juice you can drink if you de-stone you might be able to think more clearly.

NameChange30 · 10/10/2014 01:12

OP, please please call the Samaritans, not all the advice you get on here will necessarily be helpful, we are not trained.

I think #1 priority is to get support right now, #2 priority to get a professional diagnosis (not just people hypothesising on here!) - do you know if the GP referred you to a psychiatrist or if they just suggested it?

Corygal I know you are trying to be kind but this is not "trivial", it's not just a "party hangover", this is a suicidal person you're talking to. It's important to take OP's feelings seriously.

PiperIsOrange · 10/10/2014 01:12

You Will beat this.

EnpoTree · 10/10/2014 01:15

I can't drink orange juice because antipsychotics fucked up my insulin sensitivity and made me permanently hungry, so I have to spend the rest of my life diabetic.

I will call the Samaritams if DP ever goes to bed. He can't know because he will potentially push for psychiatric treatment for me
Again.

They said they referred me to a couple of different services but thatbwas. A Month ago.

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Faacksake · 10/10/2014 01:15

No ones giving medical advice or diagnosing. Just trying to explain to enpo why she might be feeling how she is.

EnpoTree · 10/10/2014 01:16

Bollock arse. I should just go to bed. Thanks and Thanks for you all

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NameChange30 · 10/10/2014 01:18

Faacksake not criticising just saying it's really important for OP to get professional help as well as support on here.

EnpoTree when you say this:
"I will call the Samaritams if DP ever goes to bed. He can't know because he will potentially push for psychiatric treatment for me
Again."

Do you not want psychiatric treatment?

EnpoTree · 10/10/2014 01:20

No, I don't want psychiatric treatments as they have only caused me damage in the past and I don't think I am currently depressed anyway so not their area.

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PiperIsOrange · 10/10/2014 01:21

Your DP sounds wonderful and it clear he loves and cares for you.

You are not alone, you and DP could have a very good life together. Go on loads of holidays and spend lazy mornings in bed watching crap on TV. Have long walks together hand in hand.

Be kind to your self Thanks

EnpoTree · 10/10/2014 01:21

Can't think straight and have fucked over my life and thrown away everything I have, but not depressed.

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Faacksake · 10/10/2014 01:22

They deal with other areas not just depression. It sucks about the antipsychotic and diabetes. Which ones where you on, if you don't mind me being nosy. My DP is on quetiapine he constantly twists that they make his legs hurt Hmm

EnpoTree · 10/10/2014 01:22

Thankyou Piper. I know you struggle a lot (not a stalker) with depression and I appreciate what it means for you to talk about this stuff.

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QueenChrysalis · 10/10/2014 01:22

Feeling like this means there's something wrong even if it doesn't feel like the depression you've had before. It sounds like the drugs and the behaviour you seem unhappy about are causing a huge loss of self esteem, thinking everyone dislikes you and you can't change. Drugs can really fuck up your thinking, even alcohol makes things feel so much worse. This is time to ride out that storm and know that it will get easier, as it probably has before, and then you can start to sort things out, make clearer decisions. You can change your behaviour, it feels impossible, but you can and I am trying to believe that too. You don't have to take medication but you need to seek the right help to manage things and change it. You can find a new direction and meaning in life but keep away from the drugs, alcohol and doing stuff that makes you feel shitty. Hold on tight because this will pass, your brain chemistry will get back to normal and you can get the right support. People will love you even if you think they don't - another thing I struggle with feeling too.

EnpoTree · 10/10/2014 01:24

Risperidone/Risperdal, haloperidol/Haldol, trifluoperazine/Stelazine, quetiapine/(Seroquel?), olanzapine/Zyprexa

in various combinations and doses and for varying lengths of time

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NameChange30 · 10/10/2014 01:25

Sorry to hear that you have had bad experiences with treatments in the past.

With respect I think it is difficult to self-diagnose when you're experiencing the kind of symptoms you describe. I do understand though that it would need to be someone that you trust. A medical professional who would not insist on giving you treatment you don't want. It would be understandable if you don't trust them now. But I'm sure there must be someone who could help you. Could your DP go with you to the appointments to back you up on things you have agreed beforehand?

EnpoTree · 10/10/2014 01:26

The drugs I don't think are a cause; they are the ony way I can slow my brain down for five minutes
And get a rest from myself

This last week or two It's the first time I've taken any for nearly a decade

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NameChange30 · 10/10/2014 01:26

Excellent advice from QueenChrysalis

EnpoTree · 10/10/2014 01:28

Also in combination with lamotrigine/Lamictal
And valproate semi-sodium/Depakote.

Also fluoxetine, paroxetine, venlafaxine, escitalopram, phenelzine, etc. etc.

Thoroughly fucking drugged.

I'm not being clear with the distinction between their drugs and my drugs. The psychiatric drugs I have taken sometimes. The recreational drugs only in the last fortnightj and a decade ago or so.

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EnpoTree · 10/10/2014 01:29

Can't drink alcohol, fucking bastard diabetes.

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PiperIsOrange · 10/10/2014 01:30

3.5 years ago my sister was a herion user, she got sent to prison for crimes. She was also pregnant at the time. My niece was born premature but luckily from being in prison and put on methadone. She came out just before the baby was born a luckily the baby didn't have any withdrawals.

Fast forward to today, she isn't on meth any more and has 2 wonderful children.

She has gone from a life where she would do anything for her next fix, to a fantastic mother with a new partner and just enrolled into collage and doing very well.

EnpoTree · 10/10/2014 01:31

I don't have a problem with recreational drugs as such - it's more the drugs worry me as a sign that something else may be wrong

In this case that my brain wants to turn itself off this way or that way

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PiperIsOrange · 10/10/2014 01:34

Tomorrow bag up all these medication and take them to the pharmacy to get destroyed.

Don't worry about me, yes I'm battling depression, anxiety and panic attacks. However I will get there.

EnpoTree · 10/10/2014 01:34

Everyone does dislike me. I am exceedingly difficult to like after more than two meetings.

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Faacksake · 10/10/2014 01:34

Bloody hell op you've been through the mill with them. Are you feeling a bit more calm now ?