Blood Sugar Diet & Fast 800 Diet Thread 24

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Starting a new thread as the other one is nearly full!

Here is a link to the old one: www.mumsnet.com/talk/fasting_diet/4254566-blood-sugar-diet-fast-800-diet-thread-23

Hi, please may I join? I bought the original Fast 800 recipe book and started on Mon. So far I’m following the suggested weekly menus at the back just so I don’t need to count calories myself. I’ve got a good 2.5 stone to lose but am hoping to shed the first 7 lbs relatively quickly. I am exactly the weight I was last Jan, and it took me 6 months to lose half a stone doing slow moderate eating. Then I fell off the wagon and put it back on between Oct and now. I’ve come to the conclusion that I need to lose it faster to keep the motivation going.

So far I’m letting myself drink milk in tea whenever I want it - I know I won’t stick to it at this time of year without tea! I’ll see how I go and if I don’t lose very well I’ll try to ditch it or cut back. The drop in calories doing this is dramatic enough to start with, without worrying about milk calories.

There are some great losses in this thread - someone said they lost 20lb between Jan and March and I would love to do the same! I’ve got a girls’ weekend at the beginning of April with hot tub and it would be so good to be that much thinner for it!

Welcome, @TooExtraImmatureCheddar

I’m using the recipe books too (though making up my own meal plans). I know a lot of people slate them but I’ve been finding them fine so far. (Though DP sometimes refers to my regular food as “bland and boring” so I may be the wrong judge!)

I forgot to log here yesterday. 808 calories on Tuesday and down 200g on Wednesday. Then yesterday 797 calories and down another 200g this morning.

I've now lost 4.1kg or 9lb in 12 days!

Good to have you join @TooExtraImmatureCheddar I also drink milk in tea and coffee and I don’t think it’s had too much of an impact.
well done @QuiltedBear . I’m on day 16 and have lost 13lbs.

Welcome @TooExtraImmatureCheddar ! I also have coffee with chocolate oat milk and it's never impacted my losses and I'm a miserable person without my coffee so it's worth it lol.

I had the weirdest experience last night - dd found some very expensive special chocs I'd bought for xmas when I was on hols and promptly hid so no one would eat them and then forgot. So I knew if I didn't have some last night she & my flatmate would demolish them on their own lol. I had 2 (I haven't had any sugar aside from 4 lovehearts in 11 days). Woke up at 3:30am with a terrible leg cramp and a migraine, woke at 6 and still had the migraine. I've taken meds but still feel shaky but I think it's down to the sugar! (Which considering how much I used to eat is interesting!) I might be wrong but I haven't had a migraine in AGES so it feels connected.

Also depressingly it's pulled me out of ketosis - I know I can get back but it's really making me think about what I usually put in my body when I'm trying to lose weight and how much it actually doesn't really help. Scale is the same today as yesterday - not sure the chocs were worth it but also I'm trying not to become a puritan because I know I won't keep it up. I'd still like to lose another 2lb this week so fingers crossed. Already lost 10.2lbs in 10 days so I'm happy with that!

Someone mentioned my low carb macros - after reading the keto book I've cut out the majority of veg aside from greens like broccoli and any lettuce/leafy green. I also have no rice, pasta, bread, even in small quantities. The carbiest thing I'm eating is cauliflower rice. The thing is I now don't crave carbs - until I eat some - then the cravings come back like some sort of avalanche. Again interesting to know about my body!

808 calories yesterday, and down 350g this morning!

Congratulations on your losses so far @Anewagain.

@PhoenixMama When you fall out of ketosis is it easier to get back in or do you have to go through the whole keto flu again? I’m super impressed by those of you who are managing it.

Hi all! Closed the kitchen yesterday a bit high, everything was a bit off because of the migraine - 1054 cals, 44g carbs, 60g protein.

@QuiltedBear I'm generally not moving totally out of ketosis - but dropping a level so yesterday was 'trace' levels of ketones and today I'm back to 'light'. You don't really want to go too high because then it means your organs aren't working right lol.

Weigh-in day and a slightly disappointing loss this week with only 3.4lbs lost, so 10.4 overall but I wanted to lose a stone in 3 weeks so we'll have to see how next week goes. That said I've lost 7.75 inches & 2.5% body fat which is all good.

I had a really great chat with my therapist yesterday. I read The Body Keeps The Score over Christmas and there was a line about trauma and weight where someone said 'overweight means overlooked' and I really connect with that. I had a very emotionally abusive childhood and food was my best, and sometimes only, friend. So I definitely need to pick that apart because that little girl isn't me any more but I know I still turn to food emotionally which I won't ever be able to stabilise my weight while that's the case! Anyway a bit TMI but it was good to talk about it!

Morning all!

I am restarting tomorrow morning. I have the gym booked and some steak and broccoli to eat 😁

Morning all! Hello@TooExtraImmatureCheddar! @PhoenixMama chocolate is a trigger for migraines for me too. I don't think it's necessarily the sugar - something else in really dark choc sets me off but being knocked out of ketosis is a bummer.
Yesterday I managed a much better carb:protein ratio with 74g protein 15g carb 813 calories. Today is a bit carbier with Tuna and black bean salsa and cottage cheese Waldorf. This morning another nudge on the scales takes me to 13lbs on day 11 (but I have a lot to lose). Thinking of liberating a vacuum pack of clothes in a smaller size to celebrate.

Thanks for the welcome, @QuiltedBear , @Anewagain and @PhoenixMama !

Day 5 and my waist seems to have reappeared from where it was hiding under all the Christmas bloat. Long way to go but it's encouraging. I didn't weigh myself on day 1 because I was too scared, so my starting weight is from day 2, and I'm now down 3lbs in 3 days. Fingers crossed this keeps on! Period is just starting, though, so it might slow things down. I think I'm starting to get into the groove and feeling less hungry.

@PhoenixMama 10.4 lbs in a fortnight is incredible! My last diet took 4 months to lose 6lbs (which is why I gave up). And nearly 8 inches as well, that's amazing! A stone in 3 weeks is an awful lot, so don't beat yourself up if that doesn't quite happen - you're doing really well.

Got to take the kids to a pancake restaurant for brunch tomorrow - have been looking at the menu and trying to work out options. What do you all do when you go out for meals?

Crossed with @Tunneltiger - hi! 13lb in 11 days is bloody brilliant. I have a lot to lose too - BMI is over 30, so my first goal is to get it under 30. Love the idea of liberating clothes. Last time I tried to lose weight I had a list of clothes in size order - first my biggest jeans, then a pair of trousers that nearly fitted but not quite, then smaller jeans and so on right down to my 28 inch waist skirt that hasn't fitted in about 9 years. I didn't get anywhere near that skirt but I did manage to tick off some things as I lost weight. I should redo that list because it was very rewarding.

790 calories yesterday, and another 200g down this morning.

I’ve now been on the fast 800 stage for two weeks, and have lost a whopping 4.65kg! (That’s just over 10 pounds!)

It’s been much easier to stick to than I though it would be, and as an added bonus my PMT seemed much better this week (and my period itself was lighter although I’m not sure how much of that the diet can be responsible for - I was only dieting for ten days before it started).

I was initially only planning to do 800 calories for two weeks, but based on @PhoenixMama’s advice I shall stick with it for longer. Next week I’m going to drop the fruit and nut granola for breakfast and replace it with a serving of Purition, in order to up my protein and fibre intake. According to Nutra check I average 37g of protein a day (should be more like 45g as a bare minimum I believe) and 17g of fibre (should be more like 50 although I’m still doing better than the average American…)

Today we have lunch out with friends and then dinner with my parents, so I suspect I’m going to undo at least some of my good work over the last fortnight. All the more reason to stick with it!

@TooExtraImmatureCheddar I’ve only eaten out once so far, and that was at the Tesco cafe which lists all the calories on the menu. I ordered a kids meal. Not sure what I’m going to do today though! Possibly through caution to the wind and just eat normally for one day.

Today is Day 18 fair me and marked 14lbs lost. It’s also a day when we went out for a birthday lunch which must have been 1,300 calories alone including cake. I haven’t fallen apart and am having mushroom soup for dinner so hopefully not too big a dent overall…

Arrrgggggggg I've been working on something all day and then went into 'I deserve a treat' mode so I've eaten a handful of chips and some chocolate chips. 😖

I did well in the pancake place but then went back to a friend’s, got drunk and ate pasta. Oops. Back on it today!

A number of us back at it again today! I gained 1lb which isn’t much but I’ve lost my mojo a bit so will be fighting the urge to jack it all in today.

Morning! On the positive side: Managed a whole weekend without wine. Ate very few carbs. Two long walks with pooch. Harmony within the family.
On the less positive side: Scales stubbornly refusing to move, leaving me with an overall loss of 13lbs since starting but a measly 2.2lbs this week. Despite angelic resistance to carbs all day am having late night raids into the leftover christmas nut bowl which not only adds (unmeasured) calories to the total but totally messes up the TRE.

This week is going to be either very good or very bad - off to London for work so staying in hotel. Hoping to eat from M&S Simply Food and resist any invitations/urges for restaurant or fast food. On the plus side: no nut bowl.
Good luck this week everyone!

Good job @Tunneltiger I managed to pick myself up and get back on track yesterday. I’m trialling having just two cups of tea/coffee with milk in my non-fasting window in case that makes a difference - so am starting the week a little more hard core than before.

Reaching the end of week 3 and 14.25lbs lost. One more stone and I reach a much happier weight for me. Two more stone and I’m in a much, much healthier place. Another stone on top of that and I’ll be nearly done.

Morning!

I was really good yesterday despite hangover and stuck to my meal plan. I’m still up this morning, so my total week 1 loss is only 3lb. However, I’m hoping that when the water retention caused by hangover and period recedes then I’ll get a whoosh. Still, 3lb is 3lb!

I put on 600g on Saturday, which was expected. But then I ate 884 calories on Sunday and still managed to gain another 50g. Aargh! I’m hoping it’s mostly water retention. Back to work and routine now, so I’m hoping that will help me to see some losses again this week.

Hi all, I fell out of it at the end of the first week of Jan. It was the shock of being back at work. I'm now back to where I was, 9st 12.8 and I want to get to 9st 6. Not far to go but my body is resistant to this last half a stone. It doesn't want to lose it.

I found a few hacks. Delaying having breakfast for a few hours e.g. 11am. As long as I have a glass of water and a green tea with caffeine fairly soon. I had to train myself into this by switching to the Fast 800 shake for breakfast, so my body does not expect carb (I used to eat porridge every day).

Lunch is then about 3pm. Whereas before I would eat lunch at 12pm then be unable to focus at work due to hunger in the afternoon. Not fun.

Foodwise I have been having a tuna or cheese sandwich for lunch, and chicken and veg for dinner. This weekend I need to go back over and make a plan for the next 2 weeks. Meal prep is key!

I came on my period so I am not too fussed about Tues-Fri this week as I am always starving on my period, just need to avoid carb as much as poss and keep up the protein.

I'm up a lb today which has pissed me off lol definitely not going to hit a stone before my event on Monday which literally makes me want to cry. Going to be super strict on carbs and maybe I can inch closer.

823 calories yesterday and down 250g this morning. Heading in the right direction again!

781 calories yesterday, and 400g down this morning. I now weigh the same as I did on Saturday, before my day of excess. So I’m pleased it’s only taken three days to undo.

The scales have moved again - down nearly 2lb overnight and total loss now 4.6lb. It’s moving slowly but it is moving. Hope it speeds up a bit!

Well done @QuiltedBear !