Blood Sugar Diet & Fast 800 Diet Thread 24

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Starting a new thread as the other one is nearly full!

Here is a link to the old one: www.mumsnet.com/talk/fasting_diet/4254566-blood-sugar-diet-fast-800-diet-thread-23

Hi everyone, thanks for such a motivating thread. I hope its okay for me to join you all?

I've done fast800 before with good success but low carb is something I Struggle to stick to longterm as I get too caught up in trying to recreate carb like meals and it all gets too complicated.

I'm determined this time to keep it simple. I've a lot to lose so I'll be happy enough if my carbs are under 50 and calories under 1000 however I'm aiming for 30/800.
I've a week completed and have lost pounds. mostly water weight I'm sure but it's nice seeing a shift. I used myprotein juice drinks for two meals and then had dinner to help get into the swing of things. I find for me that's the easiest way to reduce calories without been hungry.
I need to reread the books just to refresh on what food is best to eat.

Welcome @TarasChoc!
I’ve been away for the weekend so took it as off from the plan.

However after sticking to it for 3 weeks, my weight loss hasn’t been particularly fast - had been hoping to shed a stone in that time!

Returning to it tomorrow, and thinking of incorporating a couple of 500 fast days in the week, just to reduce my overall calorie intake - maybe I’ve accidentally been going over in some way.

Has anyone else found the weight loss slow?

@TarasChoc welcome, it’s a bit quiet at the moment, I think people are on holiday or just a bit adrift with the heat.

@Jibbajabba1 v slow for me but to be honest I am not following it strictly and so can’t expect the results. I do 4 perfect days and then drift off for 3 days and repeat. I do think it works if you stick to it and I haven’t. My bedroom tonight is 31 degrees, we are all turning nocturnal and white wine is on tap!

Sorry I drifted off and basically went of plan due to boredom . I now go away in a few days and won’t get to my target. I’m back on today for what it’s worth and then will be away for 2 weeks and need to get my ass into gear when back and change the way I see food!

yoghurt and berries
salmon and veg

@Jibbajabba1 yes def slows down. First week is water weight and then I’d say 1-4 pounds is prob average for people depending on how much they have to loose . I’m also not on plan every day I prob would have got to target if I was!

@Zott haha I hear you, nocturnal wine drinking sounds fun! My late night snacking was a lot less glamorous- consisted of crisps nuts and chocolate 🙃So glad this recent heatwave is over - I think the lack of sleep does something too

@Addidas sounds like a plan! And ah I see, for some reason I thought it would be around five pounds off a week! Today I’m aiming to stay under 500 so a ‘fast’ day - May just have an omelette or bowl of porridge (if the weight loss isn’t that rapid, May not continue being that strict about the carbs but will still avoid processed) at dinner time, lots of tea/coffee/water through the day

Checking in after a good 3 days

Fri 12/8:-
OMAD LM veggie sausages covered in melted mozzarella & homemade salsa & lambs lettuce. 2 x Pip & Nut peanut butter cups (Friday eve treat!).
= 1,100kcal approx.

Sat 13/8:-
OMAD Sushi Daily salmon sashimi + soy sauce. Trek peanut & oat bar. Panda raspberry liquorice. Milk in tea.
= 779kcal

Sun 14/8:-
150g raspberries + 150g Tesco Creamfields natural yoghurt.
2 x cartons Itsu chilli miso with vegetable gyoza.
Watermelon lolly.
Milk in tea.
= 795kcal

Weight loss going nicely down, next target under 100kg!

Have a lovely holiday @Addidas, where are you off to?

Thanks for the welcomes guys, I've read through that thread and ye are a lovely bunch.

I'm hoping after the first few weeks are over I'll lose 2/2.5 Per week. Doing the calorie maths even with some extra calories at the weekend and staying low carb theoretically it should be more but that would keep me happy.
I'm just focusing on getting through the next two maybe even three weigh ins as after having such a good first week loss it'll have to balance out somewhere as fluid and everything else balances out.

I've lost 5lbs in week one and wasn't even doing it properly. A great start!

That’s great @Rosehugger . Well done.

Amazing @Rosehugger hopefully encourage u to keep going

Actually stuck to plan today and won’t eat anything else
coming in at 800 and 17g carbs

tmrw is yog berries almonds (finding this is the best thing for me to break fast)
then egg salad and green beans.

I ended yesterday on 940 calories and 47g carbs and 83g protein which is low for me.
I ended up having to eat from mcdonalds which I consider awful in normal times. I got a crispy chicken and a bacon salad which was around 350 calorie and 15g carb. The salad was limp and woeful bacon full of fat but the chicken was nice enough. It filled a gap so that's the main thing.
We had a 5 hour drive so stopped for a cuppa later and I got a Kind salted caramel bar, it was like a nicer version of a picnic bar and had 10g carbs but 200 calories which drove up my end of day stats. It was high in fiber though.
Can anyone tell me do we only count net carbs on this like Atkin I don't remember doing that the last time and if so is it just the sugar we take away?

I count carbs on Nutracheck. Having slightly more than when I first did VF 800, hope it will help me transition to the next stage without going mad for things like croissants or crumpets at any point.

Yesterday I had egg mayonnaise on a warm croissant, with celery, cherry tomatoes and asparagus. Dinner was "Thai inspired" hot smoked salmon on Aldi "French" lentils, greek yogurt, sriracha, celery, big tomato, red pepper and cucumber sticks.

Had 5 pints of water, 8.7 portions of fruit/veg, 926 calories (though less without all the free veg), 59g carbs, 60g protein. Swam for half an hour and walked dog.

Today I'm going out for lunch so that will be more of a challenge.

Actually probably not "more carbs" as such but a wider range of carbs.

Right time to bite the bullet. I have always been overweight, lost about three stone about ten years ago and while I was big I was fit and strong and healthy. Over the last five years I've gained back five stone due to stress, lockdown, an injury and not fully beating my emotional eating problems. Hit a low point with unhealthy eating

I want to try for a baby soon, so it's time to knock the old life on the head. I've done a lot of reading and I'm convinced by the rapid but nutritious weight loss approach, high protein, low carb, fresh foods.

Checking in here at the end of each day seems like a good motivator. I started this morning with a spinach, berry, yogurt and chia smoothie and I'm having a beef salad for lunch. I leave dinners to by DH who does the cooking and they are healthy and appropriate as long as I skip/reduce whatever carbs he and DS are having alongside.

I'd love tips for dealing with stress / emotional eating / vegging out in front of the TV. It's been my downfall for 15 years at this point. The advice of exercise is less appealing when you feel like a sloppy mess going for a walk :-/

Looking forward to progress!

Had my yoghurt this am and hoping to stick to plan for dinner
will weigh and report on Thursday when I fly out to Spain but I suspect I’ve stayed static for 2 weeks which is my own fault!

welcome @niairin i find the best thing is not to have stuff at home u can veg on. It doesn’t stop me going to the shops during the need to do so though - it’s terrible. I do find I feel full on this plan after a few weeks and so u don’t need the other stuff. Chewing gum after eating a meal. Yest I really wanted lots of crap so I had a Jude mini milk and it sorted me - 26 cals and 2g of carbs not really allowed on this plan but it’s better than eating a tray of chocs!

I mean I’m no expert I’ve struggled at a bmi of 25 my whole adult life. I know that’s not too bad but I’ve tried to get it less but I get bored and stop and I really want it lower - it was 23 ten years ago and I felt great . I’m hoping this time I’ll manage it (famous last words). I’ve just had a baby and now got back to my usual bmi of 25 going on holiday and hope it doesn’t derail me!

I'd love tips for dealing with stress / emotional eating / vegging out in front of the TV. It's been my downfall for 15 years at this point. The advice of exercise is less appealing when you feel like a sloppy mess going for a walk

I think the biggest change for me is practising yoga regularly, it is like magic to me for mental and physical health and seems to help me have good habits in other areas of life. Also it's fun! Rolling up to a shoulder stand makes me feel like when I was clowning around on the school field at primary school.

Don't underestimate how good for you walking is. If nothing else try and fit some brisk walking into your day. Get audio books or music you like. Exercise that you enjoy and fits in to your day you'll be much more likely to continue. Try nd get nice comfortable clothes you feel good in and some good trainers.

Also allow yourself the odd treat and pig out, we are all human and after all, crisps are delicious. It doesn't matter if healthy eating is your norm. Make your meals absolutely delicious, a real treat to have- and quick for when you are busy. A lot of people find planning meals for the week helps. Learn lots of easy things to cook/put together that takes less than half an hour. Upthread I posted about a quick dinner which takes five minutes. I was on holiday a few weeks ago and enjoyed all the lovely carbs and wine and no washing up but couldn't wait to get back to normal eating as soon as I was home as if I go outside my "normal" eating for long say at Christmas or on holiday (which usually involves seven or eight portions of veg a day) I really miss all the veg and water and find myself looking longingly at salad!

I think it terms of regular vegging in front of the TV, you have to break the link with snacking every time you do it. By just not snacking when you sit there, unfortunately. But you could have a nice cup of tea instead. A nice cup of tea seems to stop me reaching for the wine, crisps, all manner of things, quite frequently.

Try and think why you are emotionally eating - is it work stress? I've changed jobs quite a few times to find something less demanding and stressful. Are there issues you want to talk through with someone? Counselling/CBT might be useful. I think for a lot of us, we were hopefully fed with loving intentions by our parents and so food just makes us feel nice and comfortable.

@Rosehugger great advice. I’m hoping on holiday to stick to low carb and 2 meals a day but eat what I fancy and not calorie count so then damage won’t be huge? Anyone else have any other tactics? I’m not someone who is going to do 800 cals on holiday and I applaud u if u can !

950 and 27 carbs today. Not too bad. Hungry day was aiming for 800.

Sounds good to me. Depends on what sort of holiday as well, I did a lot of sightseeing and walking on my last one but sometimes I am just reading by the pool on holiday. Always get a good swim in though.

Feeling proud of myself I have to say! Only day two, but I stopped eating at 8 last night, went for a walk, and successfully waited til 10am to have my smoothie this morning. I am going to try and fast from 8pm - 10am to start. Today's plan: Smoothie (200 cals), Mackerel salad (250 cals), Veggie curry (350 cals).

Hardest part was hunger between lunch and dinner. Tips on dealing with that would be welcome. Also definitely feeling tempted to have a slice of bread with my salad at lunch!

@niairin just drink water or a herbal tea every time you get hungry. It gets easier after a week or so. And go over cals if u need to and it stops u having a binge
me yog berries brekkie
chicken burger home made with mince plus green beans and tumeric cauliflower
treating myself to a cappuccino at the hairdresser

will be 850 and 40 carbs today
will report tmrw with weigh in

Bought my lunch today as I just got paid. Itsu salmon sashimi and detox miso noodle soup. 390 cals. Bit carby at 34.5g. Also had Costa flat white for "breakfast" today - 135 cals, 14.6 carbs. But dinner will be very low carbs, egg mayo salad. 309 cals. 61g carbs for the day, 834 calories, 57.7 protein. Also doing half an hour brisk walk home from the station, have already done a 20 minute walk and a 30 minute walk today. Nutracheck says that's 464 calories burned which sounds OTT to me but it will likely be at least half that anyway. I don't take into account exercise calories but just like to know I've done some!

I've got Body Attack on Saturday which burns off at least 400-500 calories (realistically!) I do most of the high impact stuff. This is the most exercise I'll have done in one go while doing VF 800/Blood Sugar diet/intermittent fasting so it might make me extra hungry. Realistically I'll probably need a light breakfast before the class, perhaps a glass of milk for a bit of quick protein after also might keep me going until lunch time when I normally eat.

Also definitely feeling tempted to have a slice of bread with my salad at lunch!

I am actually doing that, a bit, at the weekend. I tend to be more active though and not sat at a desk for 7 hours.

Miso soup is quite good for a salty fix in between meals or something hot with a salad on colder days, or I use it as a ramen base and make something like the prawn and mushroom ramen that was in one of the Fast 800 recipe books, blue one IIRC- I get it in bulk from Amazon (Itsu).

@niairin I have a teaspoon of peanut butter if I get hungry, I find it very filling or 8 almonds. I wish I could get into herbal teas, I only find peppermint bearable.

@Addidas, I've just accepted I can't do anything on holiday and I'll have to pay the price when I'm back at the beginning of September

Welcome to newbies. Looking forward to getting back on it with you all when I return.