Beachbody Thread 3 (Insanity, T25 etc)

[Jacksterbear]

New thread for an (almost) new year, and almost exactly a year since the start of the original thread!

eleanor purple is right, tbc is the mother of all the T25 workouts and frankly beta is a bit of a letdown in terms of difficulty. I have not done gamma though so it may step up a gear at that point.

Roastie I demand that you go and grate some cheese in the morning and report back.
Happy birthday jackster!

Purple I know exactly what you mean about Cardio Conditioning - I was expecting something as horrible as Pure Cardio from Insanity month 1 and was dreading it, but it was actually just a slightly faster version of the Core Cardio and Balance one that you do every day on recovery week!

Eleanor agree with the others that TBC is a complete b*tch of a workout! Speed 3.0 is also a nightmare, mainly due to the fact it contains about 10 different varieties of burpees! If you like boxing moves, Core Speed has a few of them. Did that this morning - one of my faves

I love/hate TBC too. it always leaves me a bit sore.

Max recovery here today. Felt proud of myself for doing it because normally I skip the stretchy ones. I can see that they're good tho as I was stiff as a board! Go on holiday tomorrow for a week. Am determined to carry on with insanity, but not quite sure how this will work as its a big family gathering which is not totally conducive to taking an hour out every day to work out until I'm a sweaty ball of sweat. In fact I'm worried I might scare people if they see me right afterwards!!
Anyway - hope you're all well and have had good days

Happy birthday Jackster!

Max interval circuits this am. It's official. I hate frog jumps and side ways suicide jumps.

It's so quiet on here....
Had a day off yesterday as couldn't find a place to work out without everyone we're staying with watching and laughing at me. Managed it this am and did max interval plyo. I love that work out I've decided. Was made a bit harder by the fact that I was working out outside on the slightly gravelly path and now my hands hurt from press ups... Hardcore.

Haha, sympathies. My in-laws get very upset when they see me lifting even small weights and hate me coming in with a sweaty face from a run ("Christ, you'll be DESTROYED! "). Mockery is bad enough, but the CONCERN is intolerable. Go you, managing a workout albeit an uncomfortable-sounding one!

I am exercising but not BeachBody stuff, just weights and running atm. Missing Shaun T! Must be a masochist.

Hi all, not been on for a few days, sorry, just been hectic but been working hard. Got muddled with the order of p90x so doing it a bit out of order. Did kenpo on Saturday, arms and abs yesterday and legs and abs today. Enjoying it but finding it very time consuming compared to hc22. I'm hoping for some decent results though. I think it will tone me but I'm still not convinced the cardio is that great in the programme.

Purple people will just be jealous you do workouts and are fitter than them that's what I tell myself anyway . I now have no shame and don't care who sees me and what I look like!

Caitlin no painful cheese grating!

Belated birthday greetings jackster

Hi everyone, I am back on it and have decided to start with phase 2 even though I missed the recovery week bit of phase one. If I crack on with phase 2 I should be able to finish the whole 90 days just before I go on holiday, barring any more illness!

Roastie I agree that the cardio is a bit tame compared to Shaun T cardio. I think that's why I love it so much!! I am so unfit now though, I did cardio x rather than plyo today which is lower impact but i was still sweating .

Well done to purple, I have never yet managed to stick to a schedule when away from home. Have given up even packing my gear now so that I can't feel guilty every time I see it.

Katie my mum is convinced that the reason I got flu is all because I was doing P90X! I grew up with her doing Jane Fonda so I don't know why the concern but she always gets like this whenever I start any sort of exercise programme.

Being be hard on yourself Caitlin, you've been super poorly so it'll take time to be back on form, but you'll get there. Weirdly in fairness to your mum I always seem to get ill when I start a new workout programme, I think it's that my body is under stress with the new routine and workouts and more tired so more likely to come down with something. I think that's just me and my weirdness though, and your flu could've happened whatever.

Hi, it really has been quiet round here!

Sorry, this is going to be a me, me, me post but I am feeling really downhearted and need a kick up the bum.

For the last month, I have been religiously exercising (either T25/21-day fix/Metafit/Bodypump) 5-6 days a week and also eating approximately 1500 calories a day (I am doing 16:8 diet where you only eat during an 8-hour period each day so just skipping breakfast). My TDEE is 2000 so I am dropping 500 calories a day which is recommended. I have also pretty much stopped drinking. I don't own any scales so not sure how much I have lost but I estimate about half a stone going by my clothes - things are fitting better but not noticeably so considering I have been doing it for a month.

In the meantime, everywhere I look, my friends are dropping weight like there is no tomorrow (and most of them aren't doing any exercise ) - my closest friends are all doing SW and seem to be breezing through (although they do seem to be getting peed off by the lack of chocolate and sweets now ). However, I prefer not eating breakfast and then having a choice of what I want to eat for lunch (i.e. a sandwich if I want etc as bread is not an option on SW and I haven't got time to do all the food prep involved). I do have treats regularly like chocolate/cake but it is within my calorie allowance.

Why am I not losing weight? What am I doing wrong? Is skipping breakfast really wise - I have researched the 16:8 diet and the evidence seems to be that it is ok but there are contradictory reports that going into fasting mode confuses your body and it holds on to more calories when you do feed it

Help = again, sorry for the 'me' post but I am really fed up. I want to be pleased for my friends/colleagues but I am really feeling jealous and I don't want to be that person.

Hi only, don't be too hard on yourself! Half a stone sounds pretty good to me! But I think sometimes if you cut calories too much your body goes into a panic mode and hangs on to the weight. Do you know what your calorie burn from exercise is? Also - could it be water weight? You could try aiming to drink a gallon of water a day and see if that works? I know I get really bloated if i don't drink enough water.

Am sure someone else will come along with more suggestions soon.

Hi only - I feel your pain. I have been doing this Goliaz stuff which is hard core for about 5 weeks now (but annoyingly having to have that rest 10 days due to surgery) and my results are not just disappointing, they are slightly horrific! I have PUT ON weight, despite sticking to the nutrition plan he gives you, and have completely lost my abs that I got back during marathon training/fasting.

To make sure I hit the daily macros he was setting though, I felt like I was eating way too much and way to carby/sugars. But he said to "trust the algorithm!" and that my body would figure it out, but it really hasn't. I am 59kg again - my heaviest when I was doing chemo, and I am FED UP. I don't even really enjoy the work outs, but am sticking with it as I said I would do it with DH.

The time when I had the best results was being really stict with The Zone diet (see profile pics) so I think that's what I'm going to have to do - ignore his nutrition and just do my own diet again (with a bit of 5:2 thrown in for good measure). I think removing 90% of carbs is the way to see real results, as well as massive reducing portion size.

DH says I am being impatient. I want to be bikini ready by 2 July when we are going to France! I really wish I hadn't got involved in Goliaz and had just started P90X when I said I was going to - grrr.

Anyway, this was my work out today - it was BRUTAL and took me half an hour:

KORNEPHORUS:

(Hand release press ups only)

only don't beat yourself up! Just a few thoughts. It's nothing like thyroid issues? Other than that, if you are slowly losing then that's probably right as it is sustainable. Everyone I know who does SW piles it back on!

In terms of treats, how regular are these? I ask because I'm struggling to shift my last half stone if baby weight, and I honestly think it's because I'm having too many treats. I kid myself an entire bar of 90 percent Lindt is healthy!

Lo and the tummy fat remains.

Want to join me on a 30 day no sugar blitz? I could do with an inspiration buddy!

I would also add that afte second baby, I lost the last half stone by doing daily intermittent fasting between 1900 and 0900. I think that's 14 hours. Very little sugar. I'm still breastfeeding last baby though which fucks me up in terms of cravings!

I kid myself an entire bar of 90 percent Lindt is healthy!

Are you... me?!

Boobz, why not revert to p90x? Exercise should be at least somewhat enjoyable. I also think that a lot of male trainers don't take the difference between men and women's bodies when designing diet plans. Mind you, I haven't been 59kg since I was about 14 so I would be amazingly pleased to be your weight. :)

only, are you writing down absolutely everything? I'll often wolf down one of my kid's uneaten sandwiches while clearing up- and barely register it.

Hi all,

Only, I totally feel your pain. I'm not sure how much weight you have to lose, but if it helps it took me well over two stone before it was vaguely noticeable that I had lost any weight and that I went down a dress size. It felt soul destroying working so hard for so long and losing weight and I was the same blinking dress size for so long! I also agree that everyone I know that has done sw has lost weight and gushed about it whilst in it but hasn't maintained it in the long run, so hold still and keep going with it. What I found really motivated me was a fancy set of scales that does body fat (it's omron or something and is the same on my local GP practice has) as it keeps me focused and even if I haven't lost weight I can see the muscle percentage changing. Half a stone is fabulous work though, huge well done. Oh, and I also second the portion comment. I devised an amazingly delicious snack a couple of weeks ago with a bit of oats in Greek yoghurt with blueberries, pumpkin seeds and almonds. It was absolutely scrum my but when I did a nutritional analysis on it weighing what I was eating it was something like 400cals for just an afternoon snack and I was eating it thinking I was being virtuous! Portion size can be a lot smaller than you think or maybe I'm just greedy .

Boobz how long does this gorillaz thing last for? Doesn't sound like you're really that into it so I'm hoping it's not too long.

P90x plyo done. Good old Pam the blam on this one! Note to self, not a good idea doing them out of sequence: legs day followed by plyo is a bit of a killer! Feeling very fit right now though (I'm really not, it's just the post workout glow/ache) and hoping I can cope through when the DVDs start getting really repetitious.

Hello
only that sounds really disheartening - especially since you're my hard core hero with your 5.15am dawn work outs! You may have seen my post which was similarly frustrated a few weeks ago. I actually just loosened up on the diet for a few days, drank loads of water and then ended up having a really good weight loss week the next week. Caitlin told me weightlifters call that re-feeding and is something to do with kick starting your metabolism. Not sure what my advice is - except maybe give yourself a few days of more relaxed eating if only for a bit of a break?

Managed max interval circuits this am. I tell you insanity workouts are amazing for quads and abs. My thighs hate me.

Boobz - Maybe just go back to your own diet plan? Sounds like the one you're on just doesn't work for you.

My current diet plan involves ice cream every day. I call it the holiday diet.

Thank you for your pep talks

Roastie I think that is what is so disheartening - I think it is fairly noticeable that I have lost weight but no-one has noticed (interestingly DH has probably lost about 2 stone in the same period but he has much much more to lose and I do think he is losing it too fast but he won't listen and no-one has noticed it on him either!)

I need to remind myself that I am doing this for me, not for other people to notice!

I am a size 16 and weighed about 15 and a half stone (all rough estimates). I don't really want to buy scales as I don't want to get obsessed and stand on them all the time (I have no willpower!) so just want to go on how I look, feel and how my clothes look and feel instead.

I don't think I am kidding myself about what I eat - I put stuff in to MFP and am often under 1500 cals so those little extras (such as the odd marshmallow) should still leave me on or around 1500 cals.

DH says just to be patient and I am trying...

Boobz sorry you are feeling rubbish aswell - so so disheartening when you put all the effort in (and you put far more effort into it than me looking at your workouts ) and the results aren't what you expect.

Purple cross-posts. Yes, I do wonder why the hell I am getting up at 5.15am in the morning when my friends are still tucked up in bed at that time and are still losing more weight than me!!! Although, I now can't imagine not doing it - it has just become part of my routine and I enjoy it in a weird way and has given me so much more freedom of an evening instead of constantly stressing how me and DH can both fit in a workout in between ferrying the DC around.

I do hate competitive dieting so I haven't actually told anyone in RL what I am doing - just sit there listening and smiling politely through all the SW chat.

Maybe I should have a couple of days of your holiday diet as I do like the sound of lots of ice-cream

Also only think about how much healthier you are and how better for your body doing the workouts are than just following a diet plan. I repeatedly told myself when in the midst of feeling like I had so much to lose that it's a marathon not a sprint and that mindset really helped.

Just another thought (and I don't count calories) - not all calories are equal though are they?

Is it worth binning the calorie counting and doing an eating plan like the Body Coach? No calories counting. Real food; no sugar

only I think lack of sleep can raise cortisol which makes your weight loss much slower as well , are you going to bed super early if you are doing 5:15 starts?

Have done Back & Biceps followed by Ab Ripper X today, really pushed myself and it was so hard but in a good way. I love lifting weights. Love it. Got bloody Yoga X tomorrow though, might try to come up with an alternative (that doesn't take 90 sodding minutes)...