Can someone give me one benefit of Brexit.

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It's going to be 4 years since we withdrew our membership in European Union. Apart from the passport colour (some people might prefer) can anyone name one positive change which happened since then.

Mine can claim Irish citizenship which gives them back the rights Brexit took away from British people, which yes, makes them more attractive to international employers and gives them more options.

A British passport used to be the most powerful in the world...

But Brexit put paid to that.

Thank god for some sensible posting! I saw that poster too, it never promised the NHS would get it. It was making a point that instead of paying for a membership (and yes we got some of it back but dictated as where it should be spent instead of deciding that ourselves) we should be spending ALL of that money in our country to benefit us e.g. NHS.

But hey its gonna be hard for people to admit what you said it right

That's so nice to hear his wages have improved. Long time coming!

Exactly, you cannot say your standard of living is worse even though brexit helped your pay raise because other factors like the pandemic and global inflation has reduced standard of living. Imagine if brexit which was the reason for your pay rising didn't happen. You would be even worse off than you are now

Funny how many remainers love to call brexiters stupid, yet it is them who love to ignore all the other factors you mentioned and stick to their tunnel vision view that everything is due to brexit. Who is stupid now? well both sides clearly lol

For the very very rich, there are some. For 99% of us, there are none.

Brexit has stopped any other European countries leaving the EU. One look at how it’s worked out for the UK has focused minds. With wars in Ukraine and ME it’s so important for Europe to remain as stable as possible.

Well, I'm going to preface this with the fact that I voted to remain, as did dh, but with my determined PollyAnna complex and the challenge to think of one thing, how about...

The resulting scarcity of labour in the construction industry means that skilled and experienced trades are far paid better now.

And that offers another route to well paid work that isn't exclusively the preserve of -up to the eyeballs in debt- graduates.

And to sustain and grow the construction industry from here in we will have to increase the scale and quality of training opportunities for students who might otherwise have found themselves at the wrong end of a service driven economy.

Fish and chips are a tenner now so we can't afford them and must be slimmer as a result.

Oh man, I do miss Fish and Chip Fridays though. Although I am not making any bold claims about being thinner. 😁

I think the framing of immigration may well change as AI increases in ability anyway

We’ve just come out of a pandemic and labour shortages were felt almost globally so we are, fortunately, experiencing high employment rates

What happens to FOM generally as AI replaces workforce may be a new set of pressures

Some EU countries have pretty high youth unemployment rates already, so we’ll see what comes next

Countries all have global impacts such as the pandemic and Ukraine to deal with and the impacts of their own government policies.

For example: Germany's economy has been hit hard by the cost of their huge infrastructure programme to future proof their energy sector.

However, It's worth the short term pain because they will feel the benefits in energy independence and lower energy costs for consumers and businesses in the medium and long term, and it puts their country in a very strong position going forward.

I think we are already seeing increased training ops. My 16 year old scraped his GCSES but the local college offered about five routes into Engineering from Diploma through City and Guilds, BTECs Apprenticeships and various specialities, nowhere near as many options a few years ago so he's now training vocationally in a brand new campus building that's just been opened for Engineering courses. No direct correlation but perhaps it's connected!

He could inded otherwise very likely ended up in low paid service industry whereas hopefully that'll just be a Saturday job for him.

I feel we logically must be thinner as a result of not being able to afford fish and chips any more, but as with all hypotheticals it cannot be proven.

This again! Suck me I'm a remainer but you're giving us a bad name this has been posted so often and just an excuse to bash people who voted differently up us YEARS AGO

The guy my dad calls "The Biggest Brexiteer In the Village" is a builder and he now gets his cheap labour from Asia, Africa, and South America rather than Europe.

Since they don't have mortgages and can't bring their families they accept even lower rates of pay than EU workers did, and he gets plenty of their wages back for providing services such as housing, English lessons, driving lessons British qualifications training etc.

That's the way things are going in this country since Brexit.

Brexit is designed to bring cheaper in to undercut British workers.

Hence the record high immigration figures.

How is asking for the Benefits of Brexit bashing people? Many are feeling the pain from Brexit, so it's OK to ask for the benefits. If anyone deserves to be bashed for Brexit it's our incompetent, fucked up excuse for a government.

As a fellow Remainer my priority is our country, not hurt feelings.

As a retainer you will well know that Brexit drags this country down like concrete boots until we end it and rejoin.

The lower this country sinks the louder the clamour to rejoin will get.

You don't politely gloss over the hole in our boat so as not to hurt the feelings of the people who were manipulated into making the hole in our boat.

You fix it.

And you can't do that by pretending it's not there.

There are only downsides.

To employ someone with a work visa then there really shouldn't be anything cheap about their labour. If he is employing them without a visa then he is on proper shaky ground and is liable for huge fines.

We had to pay EU citizens the same wage as British nationals. It is cheaper to employ immigrants now post Brexit even if they have a visa.

https://www.gov.uk/skilled-worker-visa/when-you-can-be-paid-less

Yes, that's what everyone was doing, paying EU nationals the exact same as the going rate... that's why builders costs have remained stagnant..oh, hang on.

@Desecratedcoconut builders rates have increased because there is now scarcity. Good news for individual builders. Bad news for building and anyone with RAAC.

Contractors can and do pay immigrants less than British people. That doesn't mean they charge less.

I would like to suggest one obvious benefit of Brexit.

We can have lots of threads asking what the benefits of Brexit are.
Thus driving traffic on Mumsnet and advertising revenue.

The labour shortage situation will change

And views on immigration will likely alter too