Brexit mega thread part 12: David Cameron: Return of the King

[SerendipityJane]

(previous thread)

That's "king" as a suffix not a prefix. Also part of a phrase.

Surreal.

Dr Who has nothing on this! Thanks for the new thread!

The complete Teflon shamelessness of the Tory strategy - fuck up the country in multiple ways- recycle a failed PM- distance themselves from past 13 years. Can it really work?

also what’s Braverman going to be doing while everyone’s eyes are elsewhere, that is nerve racking

Well done @SerendipityJane and thanks for the new thread.

so "Call me Dave" is back! Who'da thunk it.

Thanks for the new thread SerendipityJane & as ever all contributors.

Welcome aboard !

Be curious as to your take on the situation. Making an unreformed remainer foreign secretary, since to the best of my memory, Dinky Dave Cameron has never been required to say he "respects the referendum", since his disappearing act in 2016. Making him possibly unique in any mainstream party in the UK ?

Interesting. The word is that some ministers are leaving now because ACOBA rules require a 6 month hiatus before taking up certain jobs. This would hint at a May election 🤞

I think Sunak's only prepared to hold on till May, personally. He's done with it.

I've got lots of thoughts on it.

First, I actually like Cameron, always have, always did. He took the opposite position on the 2016 referendum from me, but unlike Boris I'm pretty confident he took his because he geniuninely believed it.

His return to government, I think, is in many ways a positive. Sets a very different tone to have Cleverly and Cameron in post rather than Cleverly and Braverman. He's clearly got the chops for the job and using this story to blow Braverman's departure out of the water I think is a good move.

The big negatives are that he's in the Lords which can easily be used against him and that his presence damages the position Sunak took promising to be a new government. I think the charge of desperation levelled at Sunak is a bit strong, but he had to do something to shake things up.

FWIW, I don't think it will "work" in the sense of changing the electoral prospects of the Conservatives, only rapid economic improvement could achieve that and I think it's very likely that it's too late, even for that.

David Cameron left Parliament in September 2016. He did not execute the people's instruction from the Referendum, as I'd consider was his duty as PM. However, he didn't after the Referendum, vote to delay it's execution or override it with his own preference, as so many of his fellow MPs did during 2017-19 and that's more important. MPs who voted against delivering Brexit in the 2017-19 period I reserve my ire for. I hope Cameron has a big impact on the government because I like his politics.

Following for interest - slightly in shock.

Trouble is, for all those who shouted "unelected bureaucrats" so very often, Cameron is and unelected bureaucrat. Worse, he can't even be held to account by Parliament. Or the electorate.

When I hear the Brexshitteers decrying this, I might consider that, just maybe, they had the very slightest of insight into what they were talking about...

They're trolling us now aren't they? I think he should've somehow been made to stay to clear up the Brexit mess he made, not swan back seven years later like a bad smell.

I trust though Louise you are at least disappointed that someone has been given a key Cabinet position. You Brexiters were most annoyed at the unelected bureaucrats in Brussels. I have to assume therefore that it's not the unelected bit you really objected to but that it was a fig leaf when the real objection was that people in Brussels were foreigners.

The idea of an unelected bureaucrat unwinding Brexit does have a delicious taste to it. Especially given the lectures I have had on democracy these past years.

I'm not remotely excited about Cameron being FS. Somewhat bemused by anyone who finds it an important talking point.

I kind of hope Braverman loses her seat at next election. That would be funny.

Cameron is total desperation. He is hated by both sides of the Brexit debate, and Greensill won’t go away (considering he made a rumoured £8 mil or so from it, nor should it).

The Tories might do a pivot on rejoining the common market, which would be awkward for Labour, but would also rip the Tories apart.

Interesting to know the rationale behind it…

They are just gaslighting the country now

Fuckers

Esther McVey - Minister for "common sense"!

I didn't think we could get anyone less suited to their role than Cruella Braverman, but they continue to make us a laughing stock for the world...

Cameron is a greedy moron as the Greensill scandal showed. Rishi must be desperate.

MPs who voted against delivering Brexit in the 2017-19 period I reserve my ire for.
They only voted against some of the worst possible Brexit's, whilst trying to prevent the obviously shitty one we ended up with at the same time.

Disappearing Dave is back like the eternal bad penny. Smells of desperation to me. I disliked him back in 2016 and I still think he's an oily fucker now.

Yes I'm disappointed to put it very mildly that someone who isn't currently an MP in the Commons has been given a role in government usually occupied by someone who is. If you read my earlier post you'll see I identified this as the biggest negative of Cameron's appointment.

Cameron and his big society, not big state but devolved to volunteers. At least may and Boris were one nation to the left of the party. Cameron and sunak are further right. Might get the more traditional tory voters back?

And let us not forget how he lobbied for Greensill to be given a contract by the government (whilst being paid £1 million a year for 25 days work), which then went bust costing us £5 Billion. Not him though, he sold his shares before that happened, netting him another £7 -odd million...

Oof! James O'Brien eviscerates Cameron here;

https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1724070023298232826