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Brexit mega thread part 10 : what's the (s)tory? Incompetence, tax evasion, dodgy loans and economic free fall...nothing to see here...check out those sunlit uploands!

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Chevyimpala67 · 31/01/2023 12:52

Part 10 of our long running thread.
I'm still putting my money on a spring GE.
The tory slash and burn of the UK is right on track.
Bon chance my friends!

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verdantverdure · 07/02/2023 14:11

Nissan's days numbers in Sunderland?

“The UK is challenging and we need a supplier base.”

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/8798bc5e-a652-11ed-bd82-83899bf0b5fe?shareToken=9de538ce2bfeaf968907433f662916c7

Brexit mega thread part 10 : what's the (s)tory? Incompetence, tax evasion, dodgy loans and economic free fall...nothing to see here...check out those sunlit uploands!
verdantverdure · 07/02/2023 14:12

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 07/02/2023 14:02

Guy Verhofstad commended this article in the FT (no pay wall) :

www.ft.com/content/0d195d46-b348-4325-824f-c33889bb2cc0?shareType=nongift

Demographics will save us. Eventually.

I'm hoping for sooner than that tbh

I'm banking on Economic reality to save us

FrankieStein403 · 07/02/2023 17:13

6 years on - vacuum - "they did not know what they were doing"
m.youtube.com/watch?v=aEA3RF5UZc0

Possibly, but it is also possible that they knew exactly what they were doing.

Exasperatednow · 07/02/2023 17:20

verdantverdure · 07/02/2023 14:12

I'm hoping for sooner than that tbh

I'm banking on Economic reality to save us

Me too.

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 07/02/2023 18:53

Oh I desperately hope so, too, @verdantverdure and @Exasperatednow .

Just waiting for Nissan to demand a government bail-out. With every passing day, the next GE gets closer, and those red wall seats look shaky ...

@FrankieStein403 - the cheer leaders probably knew, but were being economical with the truth; the average Leave voter thought they knew (but had been hoodwinked).

SerendipityJane · 07/02/2023 19:38

What did I say a few posts back about about companies that have twigged the lever to the UKs taxpayer bung machine is trivially worked by threatening to pull out every so often and blame Brexit ?

Nissan have honed it to a fine art. If they put a fraction of that genius into designing cars ...

SerendipityJane · 07/02/2023 19:41

Incidentally, why is this article using pounds, not kilos ?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64562100

Reminds me last year of having to explain ounces and pounds to an 18 year old who was born in Coventry.

Peregrina · 07/02/2023 19:54

Incidentally, why is this article using pounds, not kilos ?

Presumably because it's an American story and an American spokesman used pounds. But why not put it in Kilos in brackets. We are not all fossils like Rees-Mogg.

Crikeyalmighty · 07/02/2023 20:17

@HannibalHeyes wonder if some of the mods at the time were actually right wing PR people who casually infiltrated. I am being serious , there were some quite clever and crafty weirdos on that side of the campaign - look at Cummings!!

borntobequiet · 07/02/2023 20:38

The US pound is the same as the UK pound, which is helpful. However other measures aren’t the same, eg a UK hundredweight is 112 lbs and a US hundredweight is 100 lb. (I used to teach Functional Maths. Weights and measures are a minefield. Lots of people think that a mile is a metric unit simply because it sounds like one.)

SerendipityJane · 07/02/2023 20:46

The US pound is the same as the UK pound, which is helpful.

Of course. However that's no use to an 18 year old who hasn't worked in pounds because their parents haven't worked in pounds. All born in the UK.

It's quite a moment when you suddenly realise a person you are talking too wasn't born when 9/11 happened, and now they get to vote on the trainwreck it left in it's wake.

Drifting OT, but I was mildly amused to see Rubio have his arse handed to him when he tried to claim that ignoring Chinese spy balloons was an exclusively Democrat pastime.

Fordian · 07/02/2023 21:01

HannibalHeyes · 06/02/2023 11:49

There was blatant bias in the was they moderated. Remainers were deleted and banned left, right, and centre, and the Leave shills were allowed to get away with murder.

Yes, what happened to, say @mummmytime? Poof! Gone! Goady Brexiter.

Chevyimpala67 · 07/02/2023 21:05

Fordian · 07/02/2023 21:01

Yes, what happened to, say @mummmytime? Poof! Gone! Goady Brexiter.

There was one poster who I felt quite concerned for...
She (he) was in a precarious economic situation then. God knows how they are now.

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Fordian · 07/02/2023 21:09

I realise now that @mummmytime was almost certainly a bot. I think there were a lot at the time; other more analytic MNetters noticed some posters were 'on' 24/7 but their posting style varied over the course of a day.

It was shameful, really, and I do actually feel some at The Towers were complicit.

borntobequiet · 07/02/2023 21:10

Of course. However that's no use to an 18 year old who hasn't worked in pounds because their parents haven't worked in pounds. All born in the UK.

I know that because I spent nearly a decade teaching the 18 year olds, and their parents’ generation too. As I said, some can’t place units in the correct system, or will happily tell you that there are ten inches in a foot and 1000 yards in a mile.

verdantverdure · 07/02/2023 21:35

SerendipityJane · 07/02/2023 19:38

What did I say a few posts back about about companies that have twigged the lever to the UKs taxpayer bung machine is trivially worked by threatening to pull out every so often and blame Brexit ?

Nissan have honed it to a fine art. If they put a fraction of that genius into designing cars ...

How low we have sunk that our government has to bribe companies to stay in Britain.

DuncinToffee · 07/02/2023 21:53

At least we haven't seen the flag emojis anymore.

pointythings · 07/02/2023 21:59

DuncinToffee · 07/02/2023 21:53

At least we haven't seen the flag emojis anymore.

And the Brexit Arms is probably a food bank by now.

Exasperatednow · 07/02/2023 22:24

pointythings · 07/02/2023 21:59

And the Brexit Arms is probably a food bank by now.

😁

SerendipityJane · 08/02/2023 08:56

How low we have sunk that our government has to bribe companies to stay in Britain.

Only ones that suggest they might blame Brexit for leaving - so mainly inter/multinationals.

If Barrys Building in Basildon goes under - even if it is down to Brexit - there won't be an HMG cheque for them.

Th only beneficiaries of Brexit are foreigners.

DrBlackbird · 08/02/2023 09:13

verdantverdure · 07/02/2023 14:11

Nissan's days numbers in Sunderland?

“The UK is challenging and we need a supplier base.”

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/8798bc5e-a652-11ed-bd82-83899bf0b5fe?shareToken=9de538ce2bfeaf968907433f662916c7

This falls under the No Shit Sherlock argument.

Peregrina · 08/02/2023 10:00

Remember how jubilant the voters were in Sunderland when the results came through. Think about how stunned Gove and Johnson looked. Who is going to come out the winner here? It won't be Sunderland, that's for sure.

SerendipityJane · 08/02/2023 12:38

I notice the Supreme Court has confirmed that Hoey et al are dumb fucks.

Apparently, it turns out that parliament is supreme and cannot be bound by it's predecessors. Who knew ?

I wonder if they will appeal it to the ECtHR ?

verdantverdure · 08/02/2023 13:17

Peregrina · 08/02/2023 10:00

Remember how jubilant the voters were in Sunderland when the results came through. Think about how stunned Gove and Johnson looked. Who is going to come out the winner here? It won't be Sunderland, that's for sure.

Generally people voted for Brexit because they thought it would be better .

It isn't.

That's why so many people have changed their minds and it's only the fanatics and extremists who don't care how much it damages our country who still want it.

SerendipityJane · 08/02/2023 13:57

verdantverdure · 08/02/2023 13:17

Generally people voted for Brexit because they thought it would be better .

It isn't.

That's why so many people have changed their minds and it's only the fanatics and extremists who don't care how much it damages our country who still want it.

But now we have the government gaslighting us that it is better. Cheered on by the Express, mainly.

The old Spitting Image sketch about the governments unemployment news from the 1980s rings true.

And there is now a political industry emerging with a credo of "Do Brexit Right", which that vile little man Farage is trying to hang on the coat tails of.

The only reason this Brexit is standing is it's been nailed to it's perch.

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