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Brexit mega thread : part 9 : Winter is Coming

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Chevyimpala67 · 03/10/2022 16:25

Part 10 of our long running thread.

Not sure what to say, really, other than it is worse than I feared.

Strap in, folks. It's gonna be a rough ride...

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DrBlackbird · 20/12/2022 19:17

why is the government pursuing this plan? A plan that won’t achieve its stated aim of deterring people from coming to the UK, is extremely expensive, is an embarrassment to us globally and will cause unimaginable suffering?

Female Afghan refugee now a British citizen writing in the Graun asking this about the Rwandan scheme. Mind boggling that she calls herself a compassionate conservative because that’s an oxymoron if there ever was one.

verdantverdure · 21/12/2022 00:13

"Wages will soon have stagnated for 20 years, a misery we have not experienced since the end of the Napoleonic wars"

SerendipityJane · 21/12/2022 07:47

Want to pay the nurses more ?

www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/brexit-has-reduced-uk-tax-receipts-by-40-billion-a-year-340864

DuncinToffee · 21/12/2022 12:45

But the government does not recognise this analysis....

More details here
www.itv.com/news/2022-12-20/brexit-costs-government-40-billion-a-year-in-lost-tax-revenue

SerendipityJane · 21/12/2022 12:59

I see retirees are being blamed for the countries woes. I wonder whose idea it was to allow pensions to be cashed in early ?

Given the current shift of UK demographics we are going to end up with jails full of older criminals (all that free time won't all be gainfully used) and a commensurate uplift in needs for an older prison population.

It's impossible to overstate the mess the last 25 years have made of society. Something the Tories are discovering is very much a thing.

SerendipityJane · 21/12/2022 14:46

BBC take on High Court ruling. Any lecturers in English might want to use it as a case study

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64053696

DuncinToffee · 21/12/2022 17:10

Bregret

Brexit mega thread : part 9 : Winter is Coming
HannibalHeyes · 21/12/2022 21:39

Entirely Brexpected...

HesterThrale · 21/12/2022 22:33

‘Brexit Costs us £750 Million a Week. Let's Spend it on the NHS Instead‘
www.bylinesupplement.com/p/brexit-costs-us-750-million-a-week?r=rt32d&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

Alexandra2001 · 22/12/2022 07:44

SerendipityJane · 21/12/2022 12:59

I see retirees are being blamed for the countries woes. I wonder whose idea it was to allow pensions to be cashed in early ?

Given the current shift of UK demographics we are going to end up with jails full of older criminals (all that free time won't all be gainfully used) and a commensurate uplift in needs for an older prison population.

It's impossible to overstate the mess the last 25 years have made of society. Something the Tories are discovering is very much a thing.

Yes i read this report on why we have shortages in care hospitality etc and blaming early retirees.

But i don't understand why a care worker, chef, zhc bar workers, air port luggage handler etc etc.. who in most cases will have a very small or non existent pension.. would be able to retire early?

Kucingsparkles · 22/12/2022 08:19

Yes i read this report on why we have shortages in care hospitality etc and blaming early retirees.

It's just a bunch of 🐿🐿🐿🐿🐿 to distract those with short attention spans, so that they don't see the bigger picture of Brexshite.

SerendipityJane · 22/12/2022 08:41

But i don't understand why a care worker, chef, zhc bar workers, air port luggage handler etc etc.. who in most cases will have a very small or non existent pension.. would be able to retire early?

Because a lot of those jobs would appear to have been subsidised by the higher earning partner. It's just economic physics. If you create a vacuum, then money must come from somewhere to fill it.

If this shower of shits in power were vaguely competent, I'd be worried as a retiree that they would find ways of forcing me back to work.

Way back in the 1980s, when everyone was buying shares, I encountered a few folk from the upper strata of life that felt it wasn't a good idea - the whole point of the working classes was to work and provide for their betters. Those people are mainly long gone. But their descendants walk among us.

HannibalHeyes · 22/12/2022 12:32

More winning.

Thousands of online purchases by Irish customers are being returned each day to smaller British retailers

SerendipityJane · 23/12/2022 07:50

I do like the slowly emerging "theme" of people retiring earlier and then being unhappy. It's nice to know the nudge unit is still in business. There will also be "articles" and "research" about how early retiring can adversely affect health (naturally).

And having sold it's soul to the devil I can see the BBC having a part to play. It must be trivial to ensure early retirees on game shows are as unsympathetic as possible.

HannibalHeyes · 23/12/2022 10:53

And this was well worth leaving the EU to be able to do;

Target date for cleaning up waterways in England is moved back by 36 years

SerendipityJane · 24/12/2022 08:39

I give you

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64083802

Workers over 50 encouraged to end early retirement

Remember how single mums were the enemy of the state ? Well move over: we're gonna need a bigger pillory.

SerendipityJane · 24/12/2022 09:18

Nigel farage saying Britain is broken, and asking who did it

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/nigel-farage-said-britain-is-broken_uk_63a56e3de4b0ae9de1afcada

borntobequiet · 27/12/2022 14:40

Was really looking at weather in the US but came across this (from Dec 24th).

Brexit has cracked Britain’s economic foundations

edition.cnn.com/2022/12/24/economy/brexit-uk-economy/index.html?dicbo=v2-dfb8d3c2a7398d10bf9aaa22a39e5b2b

SerendipityJane · 27/12/2022 14:51

Meanwhile the Trump/Farage morphic resonance continues with La Nige claiming he won't stand for election because "they" will cheat. Which sounds like an excellent reason to not waste votes on him and his compadres.

www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/farage-rules-out-running-for-parliament-again-due-to-fears-of-eighth-successive-defeat-341059

SerendipityJane · 27/12/2022 14:57

borntobequiet · 27/12/2022 14:40

Was really looking at weather in the US but came across this (from Dec 24th).

Brexit has cracked Britain’s economic foundations

edition.cnn.com/2022/12/24/economy/brexit-uk-economy/index.html?dicbo=v2-dfb8d3c2a7398d10bf9aaa22a39e5b2b

As my US chums note, no one in the US reads the Express to know how wonderfully Brexit is going. But they all know how to find CNN articles.

HannibalHeyes · 29/12/2022 11:16

Just a reminder to any Brexshitteers who may still be looking on here for their unicorns;

2016: Brexit to give £350 million a week to the NHS

2022: Brexit costs us £750 million a week (Economist)

SerendipityJane · 29/12/2022 11:29

HannibalHeyes · 29/12/2022 11:16

Just a reminder to any Brexshitteers who may still be looking on here for their unicorns;

2016: Brexit to give £350 million a week to the NHS

2022: Brexit costs us £750 million a week (Economist)

And all our pensions are paying for it.

DuncinToffee · 29/12/2022 14:15

www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/government-refuses-to-publish-economic-forecasts-for-latest-brexit-trade-deal-341118/

Government refuses to publish economic forecasts for latest Brexit trade deal
The Department of International Trade have argued that it "isn't appropriate".

Must be a great deal....