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Brexit mega thread : part 9 : Winter is Coming

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Chevyimpala67 · 03/10/2022 16:25

Part 10 of our long running thread.

Not sure what to say, really, other than it is worse than I feared.

Strap in, folks. It's gonna be a rough ride...

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DuncinToffee · 11/11/2022 19:34

I don't think many people are aware, sadly. NI is mostly ignored.

What is happening with the election?

prettybird · 11/11/2022 19:58

I think those of us who are politically aware realise that @BrokeAsABone - but given that the English voted for Brexit (and as a Scot I say that deliberately Wink), the majority are probably definitely ignorant (in the true sense of the word Hmm)

I hope that the DUP get their just desserts if/when the Assembly elections every happen. But maybe that's wishful thinking Wink I'd love them to be decimated and be brought face to face with the fact that they are dinosaurs that have no place in a modern Northern Ireland, let alone the UK.

Mirabai · 11/11/2022 20:10

I don’t hold them as much to blame - it wasn’t their idea. They’re a bunch of weird, nutty bigots who jumped on the Brexit bandwagon for gain until it swung round and sent them flying.

Foster and McGuinness exchanged communication leaked shortly after the vote indicating Arlene was a firm cakeist who thought the SM/CU would be retained.

Dodds realised after a meeting with Boris and Raab that neither “were Unionists” thus rejected May’s deal at the last minute.

They were royally fucked over by the party onto whose leg they clung. It would be funny if didn’t also apply to the whole of NI.

BrokeAsABone · 11/11/2022 20:44

prettybird · 11/11/2022 19:58

I think those of us who are politically aware realise that @BrokeAsABone - but given that the English voted for Brexit (and as a Scot I say that deliberately Wink), the majority are probably definitely ignorant (in the true sense of the word Hmm)

I hope that the DUP get their just desserts if/when the Assembly elections every happen. But maybe that's wishful thinking Wink I'd love them to be decimated and be brought face to face with the fact that they are dinosaurs that have no place in a modern Northern Ireland, let alone the UK.

Thanks everyone who responded...prettybird they are absolutely detested here by people yet they appear in national TV acting as though they represent people here! Most People here despise them!

Anyway guys, I'm so sorry....Brexit has been a horrendous disaster and I will definitely vote for a United Ireland once the Border Poll is called, but I wouldn't have, before. Brexit changed everything.

BrokeAsABone · 11/11/2022 20:48

DuncinToffee · 11/11/2022 19:34

I don't think many people are aware, sadly. NI is mostly ignored.

What is happening with the election?

The DUP won't serve under a Catholic First Minister...the Protocol is a smokescreen. No matter..it looks like Sunak is going to do a deal with the EU and so business will have some stability here. The DUP won't like it but I just want to remind everyone that Northern Ireland was established to always have a built in unionist, Protestant majority. This year, Catholics overtook them and nationalists will follow in ten years.

Daddybegood · 11/11/2022 21:24

BrokeAsABone · 11/11/2022 19:20

Hi everyone. I hope it's ok if I come in with a question, as well as a commentary.

I'm in the six counties/North of Ireland/NI. The DUP, from many people's perspective here, most in fact, is that this is the party that really brought about the shite Brexit we have today. That arsehole party is HATED here by everyone apart from one fifth of the population. One fifth! And yet they hold us to ransom and are inflicting terrible damage upon the kingdom it claims to love.🙄

My question is...are people in Britain aware that the DUP is as much to blame as the Tories, if not more so, for the horrible Brexit we have today?

Yes we are BrokeAsaBone
Inadvertently however the DUP have not only brought about their own long term demise, as younger generations disown the ignorence & prejudices of older generations, but in the short term they have enabled the United Ireland cause, to join a republic that seems to be more progressive, intelligent & accepting...everything the DUP and its equivalent political entities (republicans, Tories, BNP etc) are not.
Similar to you, if I lived in NI I would previously have voted to stay within the UK as long as the GFA was respected but now, I'd vote for a United Ireland in a heartbeat and agree that this may be less than 10 years away

mathanxiety · 13/11/2022 00:50

The entire history of the DUP is a litany of holding NI ransom and inflicting enormous damage on the credibility and constitution of the UK as a whole.

Thatsasmashingblouseyouvegoton · 14/11/2022 13:05

mathanxiety · 13/11/2022 00:50

The entire history of the DUP is a litany of holding NI ransom and inflicting enormous damage on the credibility and constitution of the UK as a whole.

Yep 💯

DuncinToffee · 14/11/2022 14:06

The UK economy has been ‘permanently damaged by Brexit’, says former BOE policymaker Michael Saunders in an exclusive interview

twitter.com/BloombergTV/status/1592109834664648704?t=3CeDRrKofXP5N8e9YwqDvg&s=19

If we hadn't had Brexit we probably wouldn't be talking about an austerity budget this week

prettybird · 14/11/2022 14:12

DuncinToffee · 14/11/2022 14:06

The UK economy has been ‘permanently damaged by Brexit’, says former BOE policymaker Michael Saunders in an exclusive interview

twitter.com/BloombergTV/status/1592109834664648704?t=3CeDRrKofXP5N8e9YwqDvg&s=19

If we hadn't had Brexit we probably wouldn't be talking about an austerity budget this week

D'uh Wink

But who needs pesky experts? All these people pointing out the reality of the very things that were predicted are just "talking the economy down" Confused

We just need to beLEAVE more Hmm

DuncinToffee · 14/11/2022 14:20

True 🦄

Mirabai · 14/11/2022 14:34

DuncinToffee · 14/11/2022 14:06

The UK economy has been ‘permanently damaged by Brexit’, says former BOE policymaker Michael Saunders in an exclusive interview

twitter.com/BloombergTV/status/1592109834664648704?t=3CeDRrKofXP5N8e9YwqDvg&s=19

If we hadn't had Brexit we probably wouldn't be talking about an austerity budget this week

Just to spell it out: the people who voted for Brexit have landed us with another austerity budget.

DuncinToffee · 14/11/2022 15:30

Aka We're not ready....

We know it’s a difficult time for business. That is why we are giving firms more time to adopt the new UKCA product marking system – so they can focus on growing, creating jobs and driving economic success.
twitter.com/grantshapps/status/1592141677426520065?t=A0ufB_6xWho4BQBSnUDj6w&s=19

Peregrina · 14/11/2022 15:32

Maybe they will quietly kick the UKCA mark into the long grass and re-accept the CE mark. Except that we will be rule takers then rather being part of the rule making system. What was that about 'take back control'?

DrBlackbird · 14/11/2022 17:55

Here’s The Graun article to follow that tweet… falling into the No sh*t Sherlock category of statements. Yet still we’d have Brexiteers defending their decision.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/nov/14/brexit-a-major-cause-of-uks-return-to-austerity-says-senior-economist

HannibalHeyes · 14/11/2022 18:45

Dreadfully excoriating admission from George Useless. Both for Liz Truss, and for himself as someone who was happy to lie to keep his ministerial job...

SerendipityJane · 14/11/2022 19:43

Interesting Labour ruled out joining the customs union.

I am sure it's not beyond the wit of the EU to devise a bespoke "UK only" customs union (they could call it the UK-EU sovereign customs union" for the hard of thinking)

That's if they can be arsed. As I heard on a call today "We're trying to think of things we miss". A very real danger that as our youth grow more pro-EU, the youth in Europe become more ambivalent.

DuncinToffee · 16/11/2022 11:41

Chris Grey

bylinetimes.com/2022/11/15/lady-chatterleys-brexit/

“What makes the Brexit taboo all the more extraordinary is that this was supposed to be the great project of national liberation; the unleashing of a new age of freedom and prosperity.”

Chersfrozenface · 16/11/2022 12:05

Story on the BBC News site
www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-63638501

It starts "The UK's main facility for dealing with viruses that jump from animals to humans has been left to "deteriorate to an alarming extent," according to MPs."

Further down there's a quote, part of which I have bolded.
"Prof James Wood, head of the department of veterinary medicine at University of Cambridge, said that the "steady decline" of the facility had been clear.
"We can no longer be reliant on laboratory resources from partner European laboratories. The significance of laboratories is demonstrated clearly by their central role in the diagnosis and control of the ongoing unprecedented avian influenza outbreak.""

So after Brexit we can't rely on resources from European laboratories, but Glorious Brexitannia hasn't even maintained, never mind beefed up, its own resource. That may be a matter of priorities, or it may be a matter of lack of money. Now who thinks the "current major Weybridge redevelopment programme" will fall victim to the infrastructure cuts (already warned about) caused by the hole in Government finances and the coming economic depression?

We'll be fine on our own, will we?

mathanxiety · 16/11/2022 21:28

It looks to me as if the Tories all hate each other with a vengeance and nobody dares turn their back on a former colleague. Kwarteng rounded on Truss, Eustace ditto, everyone wants to stick a knife in Gavin Williamson and Dominic Raab. Yet there's a curious silence when it comes to Boris Johnson.

HannibalHeyes · 16/11/2022 23:15

Femi telling it like it is again...

Thatsasmashingblouseyouvegoton · 17/11/2022 08:14

Not news to any of us who have gone through the UK maternity system

news.sky.com/story/uk-women-three-times-more-likely-to-die-around-time-of-pregnancy-than-those-in-norway-or-denmark-study-suggests-12749261

TheElementsSong · 17/11/2022 09:26

Is this the Sunlit Uplands? Are we theeeeeeeeere yettttttt???

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