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Brexit mega thread part 5 : new year new PM? Partygate continues...

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Opal8 · 14/01/2022 09:02

Morning

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HannibalHeyes · 20/02/2022 23:20

Sir Frank Marcois
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Big Dog has called an emergency COBRA meeting to discuss the proposed Russia sanctions. We all have to present three ideas of how the Tory party could be funded if we lose the Roubles.

mathanxiety · 21/02/2022 02:23

I notice Michelle O'Neill seems comfortable floating the "U" word now. No idea how realistic her becoming First Minister is ? How does that square with the oath of allegiance ?

There is no obligatory oath of allegiance to the monarch in the NI Assembly. Yet another solid achievement of the GFA.

mathanxiety · 21/02/2022 02:24

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borntobequiet · 21/02/2022 05:48

@GaspodeWonderCat

I'm trying to gauge my level of cynicism ... would Boris Johnson start a war with Russia to stay as PM? I am trying to think if there is a line he would not cross ... he has crossed so many already ...
I don’t think there’s any line he wouldn’t cross. Thankfully I doubt that many other leaders are likely to take much notice of him, and he’s not in a position to act unilaterally.
Opal8 · 21/02/2022 08:22

Of course one of the biggest brexshit results is that the UK is simply no longer a player on the global stage.

Bit uncomfortable to watch, really.

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Peregrina · 21/02/2022 09:14

We all have to present three ideas of how the Tory party could be funded if we lose the Roubles.

Let's hear your sanctions busting ideas, chaps.

Meanwhile US/Russia to have talks, facilitated by Macron, so I read. I don't see Johnson's name there, or Truss's.

Peregrina · 21/02/2022 09:32

Britain in Europe winds down.

It's worth reading the whole article. A sad day. But at least the Brexiters can be happy that although they haven't got the Brexit they wanted, they have made life as difficult as possible for another group of people.

GaspodeWonderCat · 21/02/2022 11:01

@borntobequiet I don’t think there’s any line he wouldn’t cross. Thankfully I doubt that many other leaders are likely to take much notice of him, and he’s not in a position to act unilaterally

Oddly I find this quite cheering. Thank you.

DrBlackbird · 21/02/2022 14:24

@Peregrina

Britain in Europe winds down.

It's worth reading the whole article. A sad day. But at least the Brexiters can be happy that although they haven't got the Brexit they wanted, they have made life as difficult as possible for another group of people.

Does feel sad. The last stage of grief?

Feels to me that 17 million people said "you bloody well can’t tell us Brits what to do" on next to no understanding of the wider issues. Just a knee-jerk response to the referendum primed by a decade of the Tory MSM.

And they won. But it’s a Pyrrhic victory that we all now suffer through. Some more than others.

DGRossetti · 21/02/2022 19:11

@Peregrina

Britain in Europe winds down.

It's worth reading the whole article. A sad day. But at least the Brexiters can be happy that although they haven't got the Brexit they wanted, they have made life as difficult as possible for another group of people.

Indeed. Top news today was about Macron Biden and Putin. Boris was relegated to the end story about a donkey sanctuary in Uckfield.

Or that's what it sounded like. I suspect he's going to have to keep a low profile if the grown-ups are going to talk about treaties. After all who needs that clown in the frame for Putin to just say "... but the UK doesn't abide by it's treaties ..." (neither does the US come to that, but you need a bit more history to know that. Proper history too. Not the pound shop Farage volume.)

DuncinToffee · 21/02/2022 19:25

I saw some footage of the Putin and the Security Council meeting, they are terrified of him.

DoctorTwo · 21/02/2022 20:50

They have to sit that far away because Putin is terrified of catching the Covids Dunc. It's also why foreign leaders were so far away from him.

DuncinToffee · 22/02/2022 11:13

The Kenya ambassador to the UNSC perfectly explains how people across Africa understand Ukraine, and what the Kremlin's acts of aggression mean in our post-colonial world.

twitter.com/thomasvlinge/status/1495978202728210435?s=21

DuncinToffee · 22/02/2022 18:00

Oh dear...

Jessica Elgot@jessicaelgot
Tory MPs scratching their heads today at how UK went from being hardliner on Ukraine to having the some of the weakest sanctions to announce today, when reverse has been true of Germany. Something not quite lining up.

AuldAlliance · 22/02/2022 18:15

Some people are fairly clear about the point/impact of BJ's wishy washy sanctions:

twitter.com/JonathanPieNews/status/1496185049062031367?s=20&t=_C0zb4kMXKeVkRWeUAYWFg

twitter.com/BorisJohnson_MP/status/1496182679741550602?s=20&t=_C0zb4kMXKeVkRWeUAYWFg

Peregrina · 22/02/2022 18:28

It gives the Tory party a problem having been bankrolled by Putin and cronies.

DrBlackbird · 22/02/2022 19:39

National Farmers’ Union Conference…

NFU president tells conference ministers have no understanding of how food production works

One agricultural company, Thanet Earth, which grows tomatoes, cucumbers and peppers in glasshouses in Kent, said it had lost £320,000-worth of produce in 2021, when crops could not be picked at the right time to sell to its primary customers.

DrBlackbird · 22/02/2022 19:47

On the national stage it’s just embarrassing to have Johnson as PM. He’s such a total lightweight, knows nothing, cares about nothing, really has no opinion about anything, other than maybe the wine he’d like to drink. It’s all just a joke to the party boy.

HannibalHeyes · 22/02/2022 20:43

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Brexit mega thread part 5 : new year  new PM? Partygate continues...
HannibalHeyes · 22/02/2022 20:44

Johnson is learning first hand what a difficult position he put Sue Gray in. She couldn't sanction her boss, Johnson can't sanction his...

DGRossetti · 22/02/2022 21:04

Also I see Farage and Banks have turned out to big up their paymaster.

DuncinToffee · 22/02/2022 21:16

As has Trump

HannibalHeyes · 22/02/2022 22:24

And people still don't see it...

DGRossetti · 23/02/2022 07:34

Not a squeak on the BBC about Boris Johnson lying to parliament.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-roman-abramovich-sanctions-b2020535.html

DuncinToffee · 23/02/2022 09:46

The BBC did report it yesterday, not on the front page but tucked away in politics
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60485759

Truss is doing the rounds this morning

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