Westminstenders: Put Your Faith In The Home Office

[pointythings]

Because there doesn't seem to be a new thread yet. I'm no RTB or any of you other experts, but these threads need to keep going.

Give me a couple weeks and I'll be able to post cat placemarks!

The squirrels wake up after there's been a couple of posts pointing out brexit issues.

They never post anything that brexit has made better, apart from references to sovereignty which only illustrates a misunderstanding of the power we have casually tossed aside.

The grifting Brexiteers needed the votes of the stupid to get over the line, so here we all are. Governed by a bunch of incompetent gangsters, who are still being cheered on by the wilfully ignorant and terminally thick.

Actually, we should be grateful for their occasional presence

Their contributions only ever further illustrate the sheer stupidity of Brexit and the ignorance (in the true sense of the word) of those that voted for it.

The re-writing of history to say that they always knew it would be difficult and would take a long time to see the benefits without ever being able to articulate what they are is just further proof.

It would be funny if their choices hadn't had such serious consequences for so many people

Well the trouble is they haven't just set fire to their own house Pretty, they've burned down the whole village

Besides Farage and his kind never shut up so why should we?Brexiters used to be big on democracy. Now they seem strangely quiet.

Have we heard anything from them on the requirement to have voter ID - to solve an almost completely non - existent problem of personation at the polling stations? Numbers prosecuted can be counted on the fingers of one hand. If Brexiters feel strongly about democracy this is one thing they could spend their time objecting to.

Why also aren't they up in arms about the lack of the £350 million a week for the NHS? If the NHS hadn't been so starved of funds, or more likely, had funds wasted on constant 'reforms' then it would not have been in danger of being overwhelmed by Covid.

Still perhaps they are too busy out in the fields fruit picking to have time to worry about these things.

BTW where is Farage these days?

@wewereliars

Well the trouble is they haven't just set fire to their own house Pretty, they've burned down the whole village

Indeed

The wonder of our NHS was illustrated yesterday: my 84 year old dad went in for an appointment with his cardiologist as he'd been getting a bit breathless and noticed that his Apple Watch was registering 30bpm every so often (amongst other things). He'd told us at lunch on Thursday that he might need to get a pacemaker fitted.

I got a call yesterday morning from him saying he was being admitted there and then and would be having a pacemaker fitted that afternoon and he'd be in overnight. He wasn't even allowed to drive home to get PJs etc as the cardiologist said his heart rate could drop temporarily to zero (ie faint) while driving.

Dh and I then had the complicated challenge of getting his car back to his place from the hospital and picking up his PJs, iPad, toothbrush/paste and the really important things his battery packs to keep his phone going Fortunately we're in Scotland and we don't have to pay for hospital parking so the fact that the car was there for about 8 hours wasn't a big deal (and it could have stayed overnight if necessary).

I saw him after the operation and he was in a lovely single room and he was fine (nice and pink ) even if he was all hooked up to monitors He said the food he'd been given was really good too!

All 100% free at point of use

asking the same old, same old little questions that they've churned out since the Ref

Oh I missed this gem. Such as the teeny tiny problem of Northern Ireland?

I'm glad your dad had such a good experience pretty. The NHS was always something that the UK could justifiably be proud of.

But the grifting tories want to destroy it, and it looks as though they will get their way with barely a voice raise against it.

The NHS is indeed something to be proud of wewereliars

Fortunately we're in Scotland where there isn't the same ideological desire to destroy the "socialist" NHS - but given that Scotland's funding for the moment is dependent on the pocket money what WM "gives" us, which is itself a function of what it chooses to spend on its own services, the resources available to it are at risk.

Unelected bureaucrat David Frost being told that people in NI don’t trust him or his deals. Great clip. But what can be done now for NI?

David Frost receives dressing down in Northern Ireland as ministers say ‘we don’t trust you’

www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/david-frost-receives-dressing-down-in-northern-ireland-as-ministers-say-we-dont-trust-you-280722/

*Unelected bureaucrat David Frost being told that people in NI don’t trust him or his deals. Great clip. But what can be done now for NI?

David Frost receives dressing down in Northern Ireland as ministers say ‘we don’t trust you’*

Yes, I saw this on the UK news channels......

........ oh no, wait a minute I didn't.

twitter.com/brexit_sham/status/1413812918991429635

The clip above shows Martina Anderson dressing down the idiot Frost.

You were the Brexit Chief Negotiator

Your eyes were wide open

Your fingerprints are on every page of the protocol

Ppl here rejected Brexit

Protocol protects us against worst impact of Brexit

Ppl here don’t trust British Gov

Wish we had someone of her calibre in he opposition.

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The look Frost gave her was either contempt or hatred.

@jasjas1973

The look Frost gave her was either contempt or hatred.

It will have been both, for a number of reasons.

Pity that England has no Martina Anderson.

@Peregrina

Pity that England has no Martina Anderson.

If we did the media would have done a hatchet job on her by now

Brexit has achieved what it set out to achieve. Your problem is that you don't like it. We no longer have to pay into the EU. That is great. We are in charge of our own money to spend how we want. And I know you're going to say but Brexit cost more. I don't care. It was worth it to be away from the European Commission and European Parliament. The UK now has a good immigration system.
Job done.
I know what sovereignty is. If you don't look it up

Oooh - I do like people proving our point

....but are they going to take ownership and accept the reduced growth of the economy compared with other G7 countries and the problems with recruitment in eg the care sector and fruit & vegetable pickers

We will certainly see in the future whether our trolls like the immigration system we end up with.

I doubt whether we will see any Leavers take ownership of anything.

They very much remind me of zealous communists I met in E Europe back in 1983 who were declaring how wonderful the system was. Six years later it collapsed.

Brexit has achieved what it set out to achieve. Your problem is that you don't like it. We no longer have to pay into the EU. That is great.

We are in charge of our own money to spend how we want.

@foxandcubs
Do you believe the UK couldn't spend its own money whatever way it wanted before Brexit?

Tell me everything you know and understand about the EU Regional Fund and its impact on the UK.

I know what sovereignty means.
But I want to know precisely and in detail what you believe it means.

The very important part of Martina Anderson's dressing down of Frost is, 'I ask you not to use this place in any agreement or exchange that you're having with the EU'.

She is clearly stating that the threat of unleashing the Loyalist thugs is an unconscionable way to conduct negotiations, irresponsible, and completely anti-democratic.

The clear assertion that the majority of NI voters and Assembly members want the Protocol to be fully implemented would give him pause if he were anything other than a Tory hack, and if the Tories were playing to an audience other than a packed gallery of Little Englanders.