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Westminstenders: Put Your Faith In The Home Office

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pointythings · 08/06/2021 08:55

Because there doesn't seem to be a new thread yet. I'm no RTB or any of you other experts, but these threads need to keep going.

Give me a couple weeks and I'll be able to post cat placemarks!

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mrslaughan · 08/06/2021 13:35

The way EU citizens are being treated are is not only scandalous- it will be I think the next thing to watch and how the media frames it. Not only settled status citizens, but those travelling here for holiday, visiting family etc.

Whether it's the EU or the individual countries that we see a reaction from, it doesn't really matter. Brexiteers have never been able to see cause and effect , so I am sure they will be screaming like stuck pigs.......

prettybird · 08/06/2021 13:36

Just noticed the weird autocarrot in my post: ds' essay was obviously really, "Do Populism and disinformation decrease or increase trust in legacy media?"Confused

prettybird · 08/06/2021 13:48

@mrslaughan : I was in NZ in the 70s (74-76) and remember Piggy well Grin - in particular the TV interview when he was kicking up a stink about a Russian spy boat supposedly invading in NZ waters and the interviewer said, "I've checked with Janes and it's just an ordinary fishing boat" or something along those lines Confused Muldoon exploded at him, apoplectically calling him a lickspitting, young whippersnapper - live on TV news ShockGrin

Muldoon being returned to power, in part on an election campaign promise that the All Blacks would be able to break the sports boycott go to South Africa with the government's blessing was a large part of the reason why we decided to emigrate back to the UK after just two years Hmm

TheElementsSong · 08/06/2021 14:19

Thanks pointy for the new thread (and thanks also RTB for starting and maintaining this series of threads for so long). PMK with DCat showing off her toe beans.

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FrankieStein402 · 08/06/2021 14:20

A convenient way of overlooking the fact that John Major, Tony Blair and Gordon Brown were later criticised for what they had opted-in to.

? Someone will criticise a politician - not news, but at least these were acting for what they believed was for the benefit of the UK. Unlike Boris who was acting for himself.

This map of the CPTPP members illustrates our incredible world beating position. No other country can claim to be as far away from all pact members as the UK - by land, sea or air - cue Boris announcing a tunnel.

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HannibalHayeski · 08/06/2021 16:38

A superb judgement against that bastion of all things wonderful, the Home Office.

British Government has lost three-year-long battle to block transparency over its secretive FOI 'Clearing House' unit

Judge finds a “profound lack of transparency” and Cabinet Office 'misled' court over its FOI operation

pointythings · 08/06/2021 16:41

That'll be a lefty luvvie judge then, won't it? I mean, who wants transparency and openness from their government after all? Grin

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HannibalHayeski · 08/06/2021 16:44

And, after Tim not-nice-and-dim, we've got the fast food sector, er, raising concerns about Brexit related staffing...

Peregrina · 08/06/2021 18:14

To talk about judges being lefties is a bit of a joke - aren't most of them Public school educated? The sort you would think were natural Tories. However, the party that Johnson is now heading is probably not recognisable to as such to them.

pointythings · 08/06/2021 18:24

To talk about judges being lefties is a bit of a joke

True, but Brexiteers don't have a sense of humour. To them, any legal decision that goes against them is proof that highly trained and experienced judges have been converted, probably by their university education, into lefty liberals. It's an amazing feat of mental gymnastics.

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borntobequiet · 08/06/2021 18:43

This map of the CPTPP members illustrates our incredible world beating position.

Unfortunately a lot of people will look at that map and think “Woohoo, we’re bang in the middle, how convenient”.
In fact I wonder if that’s what Government did.

wewereliars · 08/06/2021 19:29

Having spent more years in the legal profession than I care to remember, I can confirm that there are some radical lawyers and sets of chambers, who could probably be called left wing at a push. Less so now though with the almost total demolition of legal aid.

They usually came in to existence with the idea of giving the ordinary person a fair chance in a legal fight, especially against the might of the state. eg Human Rights, clinical negligence, welfare, housing and immigration work.

But to call judges lefty is just part of this vicious governments' tool kit to smear any one who doesn't play ball, in their jaundiced world view.

I felt absolute shock to see that front page headline in the "Daily Hate" calling 3 judges " enemies of the people" along with with attempts to demolish them personally.

I had never before seen such a headline. Of course, no protest from the then justice secretary (hollow laughter) Liz Truss. And of course it was just a taste of what was on the way.

Judges quite frankly are the establishment.

For the first time since university, I actually saw in real time, when the Supreme Court struck down the pro roguing of parliament, how very important it is in a properly functioning democracy that the juduciary is able and willing to strike down illegal acts committed by an " over weening executive"

DrBlackbird · 08/06/2021 19:48

Yay new thread. Many thanks Pointy for taking the reigns and thanks to Red for all the past threads. Hopefully you'll be tempted to comment.

As others have noted, these discussions have expanded to note how leaving and Covid is resulting in a worrying power grab and it's important to identify these emerging trends.

Plus, these threads have been a huge source of solace and information amongst the despair and disbelief at what's happening in government and to this country. There's a fine piece of research in these many postings.

A photo of tulips in The Netherlands came up as a screen saver today and made me wish that there were two immigration channels going into EU countries... one for those that voted to remain vs Brexiteer voters. Remainers moving through more quickly of course. That would've been only fair and might have sharpened the minds of the Beleavers. Alas, we're all subject to the same obstacles now. Sad

Peregrina · 08/06/2021 19:55

Yes, two channels would be good. But it wouldn't work, the Leavers would be screaming how the EU was being unfair to them.

I have put a big I voted Remain sticker on the back of my passport. Since you now have to hand them over to get a stamp, it does at least mean that there are people who see this.

HarrietPierce · 08/06/2021 20:08

I have covered my new blue passport in a" I voted remain" passport holder.

HannibalHayeski · 08/06/2021 20:17

Sadly, it seems that the Torygraph has now become "woke" Grin

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HannibalHayeski · 08/06/2021 20:19

I got one of these free when I subscribed to the New European...

wewereliars · 08/06/2021 20:26

Love that holder Smile

HannibalHayeski · 08/06/2021 20:31

And more news that Brexshit is making our roads more dangerous.

Police issue 4,700 M20 speeding fines, but none to drivers of foreign registered vehicles

Peregrina · 08/06/2021 20:44

Ha - a Brexit bonus - you can speed like %^^&*& in the EU and you won't be fined. Will it matter - it's only Johnny Foreigner's road safety after all. Wink

HannibalHayeski · 08/06/2021 20:57

Oh no! That beastly EU might stop de Piffle from building his penis substitute vanity yacht in the UK.

Oh wait! It's not the evil EU, it's that favourite of Brexshittiers everywhere, the WTO...

HannibalHayeski · 08/06/2021 21:06

Indeed, based on an agreement de Piffle himself signed only last year!

This level of competence is beyond belief...

Blacktothepink · 08/06/2021 23:30

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mathanxiety · 09/06/2021 03:36

From previous thread.

"I have in my fridge a half bottle of Italian mineral water and a few pounds of Irish cheese and butter, plus two boxes of an Irish brand of tea. I bought all these items in a local supermarket and a Walmart."

Perhaps that has more to do with significant Irish and Italian diasporas in the US? Just a thought.

@Clavinova
Diasporas don't just click their heels together and wish that products from home were easily available.

Despite membership of the EU, Ireland and Italy are selling food and drinks in American shops that are not expat oriented.

www.dairyreporter.com/Article/2019/05/06/Kerrygold-reaches-1bn-annual-retail-sales-globally
Ornua sells in 110 countries around the world. Kerrygold is the number two butter brand in the US.

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