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Brexit

Westminstenders: Sleaze. The Return.

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RedToothBrush · 25/04/2021 13:37

The Brexit Agreement is still not signed. The EU are still pissed off with our bad attitude and how we managed to a have better deal on AstraZeneca's vaccines which they don't seem to like anyway.

The Ireland / NI border is still a mess. Both politically and economically. This is apparently something that wasn't discussed pre referedum, with regular Westminstenders suffering from collective delusions over remembering differently and reading madeup stories which just happen to be dated prior to the referendum. Its a sign of how good fake news has got.

The lying architect of Vote Leave is complaining about the lying of Vote Leave's biggest champion and cheerleader, countered with the pm who cheated on his ex wife multiple times and ran off with a younger woman accusing his former aid of being deeply sexist.

The government is embroiled in numerous accusations of lining its own pockets following the brexit power grab by the right wing of the party. Which of course wasn't a worry pre referendum. As of course accountability generally.

In keeping with taking a lead on the world stage, we have seen through our promises to cut back on overseas aid, instead preferring to spend money on trading. This is well represented by our purchasing of 10million AZ vaccines from India with not much sign of sending aid to help with the unfolding humanitarian crisis there.

Our post Brexit foreign policy looks muddled at best. The new world order is a big confusing. We dont mind trading with regimes which have human rights abuses... As long as they are countries which are smaller than us and we can exploit. We don't particularly like China atm because we aren't getting much out of the shitting on others. Plus its not really proving a great opportunity for Westerners to line their pockets like other dodgy regimes because its generally closed to outsiders and this is even more true in covid times.

But don't worry, we will soon be able to go abroad again on our covid passports. The 17th May beckons when the penny will drop that efforts to integrate medical records with passport data which apparently border agencies are working on, isn't ready yet and that doesn't matter because other countries won't be ready to let us in yet, especially since we are outside the EU and EEA and we haven't been great at talking to them. And we probably will still have to quarantine on return anyway. (End of June is still optimistic but more realistic).

We've still to impose customs checks yet because we didn't want to do it in April in case that meant the shops would be empty when they reopened. So we still have that joy to look forward to. Great for EU exporters. Less great for uk exporters. For now.

Of course we have the May Council elections to look forward to, in which it will become apparent just how fucking useless and invisible Keir Starmer is and how Labour policies are not connecting with voters in spite of all of the above. Mainly due to navel gazing and an inability to get beyond their social circle. Any good ideas they do have are promptly nicked by the Tories.

Post Brexit talk of reviewing the Monarchy are also growing in steam...

If we look back it feels like the sleaziness of the early nineties has returned but with no prospect of joining the Eu, no John Smith or Smiling Tony to inspire, no coming Cool Brittania to cheer us up. Just sleaze tolerated and accepted, rather than rejected. And one massive debt than had been largely repaid.

Its hard to see where we go from here. We seem bewildered by geography and confused by technology. Unwilling to invest in science and no longer aligned with the right people to collaborate effectively.

Instead we are more pre occupied with in fighting.

As a friend said to me this week, they had started to watch alternative news channels to British based ones because she felt we had become so inward looking. She felt like our mentality was increasing like the US which simply was unaware of events and ideas beyond our borders. I think its a comment that has so much ressonnance.

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TheABC · 26/04/2021 22:03

I kill everything except spider plants.

GeistohneGrenzen · 26/04/2021 22:12

@TheABC

I kill everything except spider plants.

Hmmm. You might find it interesting to google 'can you eat spider plants?' Grin
RedToothBrush · 26/04/2021 22:18

@pointythings

You're all much more ambitious than me! I'm just starting out with raised beds and have no delusions of any sort of self sufficiency - I just eat a lot of salad in summer.
Na. I got bored and carried away over the winter in lockdown. Cheap seeds were my downfall. The end. No ambition. No desire to be self sufficient. Just sheer lunancy.
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prettybird · 26/04/2021 22:20

My raised beds are nearly empty although there are some leeks and garlic coming up in this year's onion & carrot bed and there are a few asparagus spears poking through. Potatoes are starting to appear so I need to earth them up and the broad beans I planted alongside them are about an inch high.

In my greenhouse and window sill I have chillis (2 types), tomatoes (5 varieties), Cucumbers, courgettes (3 varieties), cauliflower (white and romanescu), aubergines, peas, runner beans and peppers Grin

But the bed I like the most is my tulip bed, which will convert to a cut flower bed once they've gone over.

Westminstenders: Sleaze. The Return.
HappyWinter · 26/04/2021 22:57

Thanks for the new thread and the update on where we are now.

TheABC Spider plants would survive the apocalypse, I haven't managed to kill one yet. I'm inspired by the vegetable gardening! My house is full of slightly neglected house plants as I keep getting distracted by DC, but nothing edible.

TheHateIsNotGood · 26/04/2021 23:34

Oooh, amongst all the gloom it seems it's the Flowers and Cats that prevail, and I can't argue with that, as long as dogs, birds, sheepers and cows are as cherished too.

Best one-liner comment heard on R4 today:

Good job Cummins has sorted out his eyesight enough so that he can now see the Moral High Ground.

Gave me a chuckle.

BlackeyedSusan · 26/04/2021 23:47

If we are going for veg pictures, here are the first three cherry tomatoes grown on the window sill, along with the spring onions from off cuts from supermarket spring onions. I don't have a garden so no chance of feeding us all.

Westminstenders: Sleaze. The Return.
TheHateIsNotGood · 26/04/2021 23:50

prettybird - it is a privilege to have a garden as large as yours, give it a few years and it will look less 'clipped' and 'scaped' and becomes more in tune with it's environment, whilst producing more than enough food and flowers. Leave it to grow and you'll see.

Peregrina · 27/04/2021 00:08

Well well who would have thought it?

Maybe Cummings finding a vestige of a conscience did do some good.

HannibalHayeski · 27/04/2021 00:17

Cummings has no conscience. But maybe, just maybe, there's a couple of old school Tories left in the party somewhere...

JackieLavertysWeirdVoice · 27/04/2021 01:04

Dominic Grieve spoke out a few days ago.

longwayoff · 27/04/2021 06:17

Venom, rather than conscience, I think. Still, in the circumstances, it will do.

AuldAlliance · 27/04/2021 07:00

prettybird your photos make me very nostalgic for Scotland.

TheHateIsNotGood Hmm Biscuit

borntobequiet · 27/04/2021 07:37

I long ago came to terms with the fact that I have neither the inclination, patience or application to grow edibles. I have a balcony with a few flowers and a bucket of herbs from Aldi that surprisingly overwintered successfully, and some square metres of more or less reclaimed hillside which I strim every month or so and use for picnics, sunbathing and for the grandkids to camp on in the holidays. Not much but thankfully not something for which I could reasonably be patronised and lectured about.

Jenthefredo · 27/04/2021 07:40

I can assure you - you can kill spider plants and cactii...I've done both :(

GaspodeWonderCat · 27/04/2021 07:47

@Jenthefredo

I can assure you - you can kill spider plants and cactii...I've done both :(
Yep - done that ... but some how kept a Poinsettia alive for 2 years (no red leaves). Ignore and over water irregularly kept in sunlight - who knows ... (not a metaphor for anything?)
Jenthefredo · 27/04/2021 07:48

I've got a mother in laws tongue thats still going strong
No idea how
I just ignore it and hope for the best
Benign neglect I think its called :)

KonTikki · 27/04/2021 08:10

Why has the Daily Mail turned on Boris ?
Why did Gove issue a non - denial to counter the Bodies Building high story.
Anything to do with a senior reporter at the DM being intimately related to Gove ?
Does Gove still harbour Premier sized ambitions ?
God, the Sleaze slopping around No 10 is stomach churning Confused

Jenthefredo · 27/04/2021 08:13

Corruption.

Not sleaze.

prettybird · 27/04/2021 08:28

Yes, we need to call it what it is: corruption Angry

Sleaze is having affairs and fathering children with mistresses while still married. Which BJ is also an example of - but it is a separate thing Confused

DGRossetti · 27/04/2021 08:31

Why has the Daily Mail turned on Boris ?

If you wanted to rewrite history, to distance yourself from Brexit, then the first step will be to blame Boris.

longwayoff · 27/04/2021 08:40

Whatever can you mean KonTikki? Surely you can't be doubting the word of MacGove? One of the most reliable and upstanding examples of a backstabbing politician we've had the pleasure of seeing in the cesspit we call our current government. Please God he's never PM.

Jenthefredo · 27/04/2021 08:44

He's made too many enemies.
Watch out for chunt though...

borntobequiet · 27/04/2021 08:53

Sleaze and corruption. Who’d have guessed it would come to this? Oh and economic chaos born of incompetence. And everything else...

Peregrina · 27/04/2021 08:56

Gove is apparently denying that Johnson said this. The Guardian reports a commentator saying that since he wasn't there, he shouldn't deny it so strongly.

It puts me in mind of almost a year ago when they were breaking their necks to support Cummings, and now suddenly they find that they can't. Similarly Cummings was in contempt of Parliament for refusing to appear before a select committee. Now he's desperate to do so.
No honour among thieves, springs to mind.

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