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Westminstenders: Sleaze. The Return.

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RedToothBrush · 25/04/2021 13:37

The Brexit Agreement is still not signed. The EU are still pissed off with our bad attitude and how we managed to a have better deal on AstraZeneca's vaccines which they don't seem to like anyway.

The Ireland / NI border is still a mess. Both politically and economically. This is apparently something that wasn't discussed pre referedum, with regular Westminstenders suffering from collective delusions over remembering differently and reading madeup stories which just happen to be dated prior to the referendum. Its a sign of how good fake news has got.

The lying architect of Vote Leave is complaining about the lying of Vote Leave's biggest champion and cheerleader, countered with the pm who cheated on his ex wife multiple times and ran off with a younger woman accusing his former aid of being deeply sexist.

The government is embroiled in numerous accusations of lining its own pockets following the brexit power grab by the right wing of the party. Which of course wasn't a worry pre referendum. As of course accountability generally.

In keeping with taking a lead on the world stage, we have seen through our promises to cut back on overseas aid, instead preferring to spend money on trading. This is well represented by our purchasing of 10million AZ vaccines from India with not much sign of sending aid to help with the unfolding humanitarian crisis there.

Our post Brexit foreign policy looks muddled at best. The new world order is a big confusing. We dont mind trading with regimes which have human rights abuses... As long as they are countries which are smaller than us and we can exploit. We don't particularly like China atm because we aren't getting much out of the shitting on others. Plus its not really proving a great opportunity for Westerners to line their pockets like other dodgy regimes because its generally closed to outsiders and this is even more true in covid times.

But don't worry, we will soon be able to go abroad again on our covid passports. The 17th May beckons when the penny will drop that efforts to integrate medical records with passport data which apparently border agencies are working on, isn't ready yet and that doesn't matter because other countries won't be ready to let us in yet, especially since we are outside the EU and EEA and we haven't been great at talking to them. And we probably will still have to quarantine on return anyway. (End of June is still optimistic but more realistic).

We've still to impose customs checks yet because we didn't want to do it in April in case that meant the shops would be empty when they reopened. So we still have that joy to look forward to. Great for EU exporters. Less great for uk exporters. For now.

Of course we have the May Council elections to look forward to, in which it will become apparent just how fucking useless and invisible Keir Starmer is and how Labour policies are not connecting with voters in spite of all of the above. Mainly due to navel gazing and an inability to get beyond their social circle. Any good ideas they do have are promptly nicked by the Tories.

Post Brexit talk of reviewing the Monarchy are also growing in steam...

If we look back it feels like the sleaziness of the early nineties has returned but with no prospect of joining the Eu, no John Smith or Smiling Tony to inspire, no coming Cool Brittania to cheer us up. Just sleaze tolerated and accepted, rather than rejected. And one massive debt than had been largely repaid.

Its hard to see where we go from here. We seem bewildered by geography and confused by technology. Unwilling to invest in science and no longer aligned with the right people to collaborate effectively.

Instead we are more pre occupied with in fighting.

As a friend said to me this week, they had started to watch alternative news channels to British based ones because she felt we had become so inward looking. She felt like our mentality was increasing like the US which simply was unaware of events and ideas beyond our borders. I think its a comment that has so much ressonnance.

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LostToucan · 25/04/2021 18:36

Ive just learned that there is such a thing as the Northern Independence Party.

I keep getting Twitter notifications from them - not sure why as I don’t follow them Confused

prettybird · 25/04/2021 18:50

Cat insinuating himself in between the chair and me Grin

The 7th May Holyrood elections should be interesting. Will DRoss see the Conservatives back down to the 3rd - or even 4th - largest party Hmm Will Wee Eck find that he really is more unpopular than BJ? Shock And most importantly (to me Wink), will the Indy supporting parties have a majority? Confused

Westminstenders: Sleaze. The Return.
DGRossetti · 25/04/2021 18:55

@LostToucan

At least the sun is shining and pub gardens are open.
And it's windy like January morning ...
ListeningQuietly · 25/04/2021 19:02

In happier news as a place mark

Westminstenders: Sleaze. The Return.
LostToucan · 25/04/2021 19:15

And it's windy like January morning ...

Not being from the south, cold wind won’t keep me from my pint of Harvey’s.

Peregrina · 25/04/2021 19:23

An update on what's happening to Leave voters in Spain. Grin

TokyoSushi · 25/04/2021 19:24

PMK

GeistohneGrenzen · 25/04/2021 19:56

An update on what's happening to Leave voters in Spain

As soon as I saw that pic of Ryanair I knew it was a wind up Grin

Thanks for the laugh.

pointythings · 25/04/2021 20:29

LQ I have a windowsill like this. Sunflowers, dwarf beans, lamb's lettuce, basil, foxgloves and two types of tomato.

DGRossetti · 25/04/2021 21:13

Here's a picture of the most beautiful cat that popped up lost in someones garden nearby as a secondary pmk ...

HannibalHayeski · 25/04/2021 21:14

Nasty, bullying EU update;

Ursula von der Leyen
@vonderleyen
Alarmed by the epidemiological situation in India. We are ready to support.

The EU is pooling resources to respond rapidly to India’s request for assistance via the EU Civil Protection Mechanism.

We stand in full solidarity with the Indian people!

Kendodd · 25/04/2021 21:34

Did we ever find out who paid for Johnson's holiday to Mustique?

mrslaughan · 25/04/2021 21:55

@Kendodd

Did we ever find out who paid for Johnson's holiday to Mustique?
Nope....
ListeningQuietly · 25/04/2021 22:15

pointy
That lot go back in the polytunnel at night Smile

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 25/04/2021 23:03

PMK
With thanks for keeping these threads going. I rely on them.

mathanxiety · 26/04/2021 05:51

pmk

longwayoff · 26/04/2021 07:21

Beautiful and very expensive cat. Bound to be chipped, hope its returned to owners soon.

LostToucan · 26/04/2021 07:24

@longwayoff

Beautiful and very expensive cat. Bound to be chipped, hope its returned to owners soon.
Looks like a Bengal?
prettybird · 26/04/2021 08:35

My dad was saying last night that the German media is calling it what it is: corruption Angry Sleaze, as we've said on here before, is Major having an affair, Cecil Parkinson denying the existence of his daughter.

There is sleaze in the current government - indubitably probably even more than in Major's last government which brought it to a slightly premature end even if you just consider BJ's sleaze Wink . But there is also blatant corruption. AngrySad

DGRossetti · 26/04/2021 08:43

@longwayoff

Beautiful and very expensive cat. Bound to be chipped, hope its returned to owners soon.
Curiously enough the original FB post has now been removed Hmm Quite a few people spotted it was clearly a pedigree cat. I imagine the finer was getting a lot of unwanted attention ...
Kendodd · 26/04/2021 09:13

I was saying to my husband this morning that I just don't know what the Tories would have to do for people to stop voting for them. He pointed out that they could have the exact same policies they do now, but call themselves the Labour party, then people wouldn't vote for them.

Peregrina · 26/04/2021 09:36

Spot on Kendodd - steal Labour policies, blather on about levelling up, piffle, piffle, waffle, get people to vote Tory breaking a habit of a lifetime Labour voting and bingo, forget all about the 'levelling up crap' and run off into the sunset with your mates and the taxpayers' money.

Jenthefredo · 26/04/2021 09:40

The left has always been held to a higher ideal than the right.
I'd love to know why...
Ds1 says its because of who votes for the right.
Some days I feel like going off and living in the woods
(Long time poster BTW just fancied a new nn!)

Peregrina · 26/04/2021 10:01

It's interesting to see the differing headlines
The Mail seems to be gunning for Johnson - "let the bodies pile up" is not a good look for the PM.

The Express, faithful as ever, is bigging up the Trade Deal with Australia, which Liz Truss hasn't done yet. I can't really believe that the demographic which read the Express are really the UK's greatest wine drinkers.

RedToothBrush · 26/04/2021 10:35

@pointythings

LQ I have a windowsill like this. Sunflowers, dwarf beans, lamb's lettuce, basil, foxgloves and two types of tomato.
I MAY have overdone this... and its also a major reason I'm online alot less atm.

Roll on mid May when I can start planting it all out.

(Never again springs to mind!)

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