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Brexit

Westminstenders: Sleaze. The Return.

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RedToothBrush · 25/04/2021 13:37

The Brexit Agreement is still not signed. The EU are still pissed off with our bad attitude and how we managed to a have better deal on AstraZeneca's vaccines which they don't seem to like anyway.

The Ireland / NI border is still a mess. Both politically and economically. This is apparently something that wasn't discussed pre referedum, with regular Westminstenders suffering from collective delusions over remembering differently and reading madeup stories which just happen to be dated prior to the referendum. Its a sign of how good fake news has got.

The lying architect of Vote Leave is complaining about the lying of Vote Leave's biggest champion and cheerleader, countered with the pm who cheated on his ex wife multiple times and ran off with a younger woman accusing his former aid of being deeply sexist.

The government is embroiled in numerous accusations of lining its own pockets following the brexit power grab by the right wing of the party. Which of course wasn't a worry pre referendum. As of course accountability generally.

In keeping with taking a lead on the world stage, we have seen through our promises to cut back on overseas aid, instead preferring to spend money on trading. This is well represented by our purchasing of 10million AZ vaccines from India with not much sign of sending aid to help with the unfolding humanitarian crisis there.

Our post Brexit foreign policy looks muddled at best. The new world order is a big confusing. We dont mind trading with regimes which have human rights abuses... As long as they are countries which are smaller than us and we can exploit. We don't particularly like China atm because we aren't getting much out of the shitting on others. Plus its not really proving a great opportunity for Westerners to line their pockets like other dodgy regimes because its generally closed to outsiders and this is even more true in covid times.

But don't worry, we will soon be able to go abroad again on our covid passports. The 17th May beckons when the penny will drop that efforts to integrate medical records with passport data which apparently border agencies are working on, isn't ready yet and that doesn't matter because other countries won't be ready to let us in yet, especially since we are outside the EU and EEA and we haven't been great at talking to them. And we probably will still have to quarantine on return anyway. (End of June is still optimistic but more realistic).

We've still to impose customs checks yet because we didn't want to do it in April in case that meant the shops would be empty when they reopened. So we still have that joy to look forward to. Great for EU exporters. Less great for uk exporters. For now.

Of course we have the May Council elections to look forward to, in which it will become apparent just how fucking useless and invisible Keir Starmer is and how Labour policies are not connecting with voters in spite of all of the above. Mainly due to navel gazing and an inability to get beyond their social circle. Any good ideas they do have are promptly nicked by the Tories.

Post Brexit talk of reviewing the Monarchy are also growing in steam...

If we look back it feels like the sleaziness of the early nineties has returned but with no prospect of joining the Eu, no John Smith or Smiling Tony to inspire, no coming Cool Brittania to cheer us up. Just sleaze tolerated and accepted, rather than rejected. And one massive debt than had been largely repaid.

Its hard to see where we go from here. We seem bewildered by geography and confused by technology. Unwilling to invest in science and no longer aligned with the right people to collaborate effectively.

Instead we are more pre occupied with in fighting.

As a friend said to me this week, they had started to watch alternative news channels to British based ones because she felt we had become so inward looking. She felt like our mentality was increasing like the US which simply was unaware of events and ideas beyond our borders. I think its a comment that has so much ressonnance.

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FatCatThinCat · 26/04/2021 11:39

pmk

PawFives · 26/04/2021 12:15

PMK - opening post sums it all up, how depressing

Clavinova · 26/04/2021 13:22

The Guardian, Sunday 25 April -

US and UK lead global efforts to help India’s Covid crisis.

Washington reverses vaccine export ban while Downing Street dispatches ventilators and oxygen.

www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/25/us-pressed-to-lift-export-ban-to-help-india-fight-surge-in-covid-cases

HannibalHayeski · 26/04/2021 13:41

As long as they're not Dyson ventilators...

HannibalHayeski · 26/04/2021 14:30

Sunlit uplands update.

"Trade barriers erected in Boris Johnson’s deal have cost exporters more than £1.1 billion since the start of the year, The Food and Drink Federation said."

Peregrina · 26/04/2021 14:45

More Brexit bonuses: UK schools speak out against rules on European language teaching

Kendodd · 26/04/2021 14:59

The left has always been held to a higher ideal than the right.
I'd love to know why...
Ds1 says its because of who votes for the right.

I agree.
Remember how disgusted voters were about Corbyn and antisemitism but not a word about all the disgusting racist language Boris Johnson had used.

Jenthefredo · 26/04/2021 15:02

Yeah...
Sigh.
Fucking depressing

Clavinova · 26/04/2021 15:24

Trade barriers erected in Boris Johnson’s deal have cost exporters more than £1.1 billion since the start of the year, The Food and Drink Federation said.

The Food and Drink Federation appear to have blamed everything on Brexit and hardly anything on Covid.

Also, January's export figures for Scottish salmon appear to be incorrect - very odd;

4 days ago -
HMRC figures for Scottish salmon exports to the EU in January are “very, very wrong”, according to an industry body.

The Scottish Salmon Producers Organisation (SSPO) said the Treasury figures for January underestimated exports by much as 97%, making it “impossible” to judge the impact of Brexit.

The SSPO told Westminster’s Scottish Affairs Committee it believed more salmon had been exported than in January last year.

“We sent about 5000 tonnes of salmon to Europe in January – the Eurostat system, which records how much Scottish salmon went into the EU, records about 4700 tonnes going in.

“The HMRC figures say we only sent 80 tonnes – which is only 3% of the amount that actually went there.”

[the SSPO were] unsure where or how the error was made but discussions with HMRC were ongoing.

news.stv.tv/scotland/salmon-export-figures-are-very-wrong-industry-body-says?top

I guess Lance Forman was right;

25 March -
Something fishy about collapsing salmon figures...

LIKE most trade bodies which warned of the dangers of Brexit, The Food & Drink Federation (FDF) appeared quite happy to report this week that food and drink exports to the EU had collapsed in January, without actually questioning the underlying HMRC data.

The report claimed that exports of Scottish salmon to the EU had fallen by 98 percent, which seemed most odd to me. First because, if Britain’s single biggest food export, Scottish salmon, had collapsed almost entirely in January, we would have heard about it much earlier than mid-March, and secondly, because I know from discussions with suppliers of mine – my day job is running Britain’s oldest established salmon curers – that they were exporting salmon to the continent successfully from 2 January 2021.

Rather than simply accepting the information, as the FDF appear to have done and as journalists across the board have failed to question, I contacted my salmon suppliers in Scotland to ascertain the facts of the matter. This is what I learned.

Salmon exports have not collapsed.

Indeed, the UK’s largest salmon producer exported more to the EU this January than last and considerably more than the two percent which was reported as representing the entire industry’s export sales that month...

www.express.co.uk/comment/expresscomment/1414783/EU-news-brexit-latest-British-fishing-fisheries-salmon-exports

HannibalHayeski · 26/04/2021 15:32

Ah, it's all Covid. Nowt to do with Brexit.

'Cos Lawrence Fox says so...

Clavinova · 26/04/2021 15:48

Cos Lawrence Fox says so...

I thought his portrayal of Lord Palmerston was pretty good - can't say I've paid any attention to what he has to say about Brexit. Do you follow him on twitter?

HannibalHayeski · 26/04/2021 15:58

I wouldn't want to follow him. He seems to have a knack of being completely wrong on every subject.

No wonder he supported Brexit...

Peregrina · 26/04/2021 16:07

I would never accept the Express as an authority.

Clavinova · 26/04/2021 16:14

I would never accept the Express as an authority.

DGRossetti links to the Express frequently. Grin

HarrietPierce · 26/04/2021 16:28

Or
"Would it not be truer to say that this is the start of the Union disinformation campaign to stop Independence. Even a totally incompetent HMRC could not have got the salmon figures wrong by 97%
Suddenly, we'll get "clarification", in the week before the election , of "how well Brexit is coming on"

ListeningQuietly · 26/04/2021 16:34

I saw a freight train heading to the docks today.
No containers on it at all.
The sunlit uplands for exporters do not appear to have turned up.

QueenOfThorns · 26/04/2021 17:14

PMK. Four different types of tomato here (and two of cucumber) Grin

ListeningQuietly · 26/04/2021 17:43

Vegetables : I'll take a another picture soon but, for the record
two types of aubergine, seven types of tomato, two types of pimento, one type of basil, one type of cucamelon,
and there is more that has not germinated yet Grin

dontcallmelen · 26/04/2021 17:47

@PawFives

PMK - opening post sums it all up, how depressing
Yup & thanks Red & all contributors
Westminstenders: Sleaze. The Return.
DGRossetti · 26/04/2021 19:22

@Clavinova

I would never accept the Express as an authority.

DGRossetti links to the Express frequently. Grin

Ever heard of "irony" ?

As a colleague recently said, the Express is only even any use as big roll if you want to wipe your right arse cheek.

HannibalHayeski · 26/04/2021 20:30

Brexshittiers don't do irony I've noticed.

Might be to do with not being able to see beyond their own navels...

RedToothBrush · 26/04/2021 21:05

@ListeningQuietly

Vegetables : I'll take a another picture soon but, for the record two types of aubergine, seven types of tomato, two types of pimento, one type of basil, one type of cucamelon, and there is more that has not germinated yet Grin
One aubergine, 5 tomatoes (6 but one hasnt germinated), 2 cucumber, 1 tomatillo, parsnips, shallots onion, garlic, spring onion, 3 types of basil, sweetcorn, numerous herbs, 6 types of chilli/pepper, carrots, welsh onions, lettuce, endive, thyme, lavender, cumin, celery and thats not even talking about the flowers.

At this point im going wtf was i thinking and roll on getting the damn lot planted out after frosts in two weeks time.

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QueenOfThorns · 26/04/2021 21:32

Oooh, it’s a vegetable-off! As well as the tomatoes and cukes, I have three sorts of onion, spring onions, leeks, celery, carrots, parsnips, lettuce, two types of kale, three types of cabbage, runner beans and French beans. So there Grin

I grew cucamelons a couple of years ago and concluded that they’re almost entirely useless. Although you can freeze them and use them as ice cubes in a G&T made with Hendricks!

ListeningQuietly · 26/04/2021 21:57

I love my veg garden
but I have to keep reminding Brexiters that it takes a whole acre to feed a family of four
with a VERY dull diet
and as I cannot grow onions or garlic
would always have to trade food

self sufficiency is rarely a choice

pointythings · 26/04/2021 22:01

You're all much more ambitious than me! I'm just starting out with raised beds and have no delusions of any sort of self sufficiency - I just eat a lot of salad in summer.

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