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Westministenders: Where's my milk and cheese?

999 replies

RedToothBrush · 06/01/2021 23:47

The 'smooth' exit from transition now leads to a million and one little things that you can't get hold of or took completely for granted.

Why is sainsbury in NI selling spa milk? Why can't you get hold of your favourite food stuff?

Its a slow strangulation of the country.

In which you get to learn all about the merits of the EU and what a donkey Johnson really is.

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DGRossetti · 08/01/2021 13:08

Just out of vague legal curiosity, is what the DUP want: to "pause the Brexit deal" even possible now ?

I know treaties usually have little clauses to allow action in very limited circumstances. Is buyers remorse one ?

borntobequiet · 08/01/2021 13:09

You and Yours today had a segment on the VAT issues. When asked how long this had been known about, the answer was “three years” (which caused some consternation). (The specific issues to do with the deal and the six month delay were only known about more recently obv.)

HannibalHayes · 08/01/2021 13:22

Oh it just gets better - "Truckers given wrong postcode for Brexit lorry park"

OchonAgusOchonO · 08/01/2021 13:23

Just out of vague legal curiosity, is what the DUP want: to "pause the Brexit deal" even possible now

I'm sorry, I don't understand. Logic, legality etc are irrelevant as "Ulster says NO"

DGRossetti · 08/01/2021 13:28

@HannibalHayes

Oh it just gets better - "Truckers given wrong postcode for Brexit lorry park"
"Nobody in the village has blamed the drivers - we have always thought the problem is with the authorities as they haven't got their act together.

Not great news for Boris. Must try harder. Remember you can't afford to piss these folks off.

Peregrina · 08/01/2021 13:32

One wonders quite how he regards himself...

He tells so many lies, he probably doesn't remember and anyway, it's all a jolly jape.

borntobequiet · 08/01/2021 13:33

At least our esteemed PM is consistent in one thing - that if he says something will happen, the opposite inevitably ensues.

DGRossetti · 08/01/2021 13:38

@borntobequiet

At least our esteemed PM is consistent in one thing - that if he says something will happen, the opposite inevitably ensues.
I seem to recall heavy rumours he'd have resigned by now - or is it fair to wait till end of Jan ? I guess he'd like a photo op with POTUS before he slimes back into supershagger mode.
Peregrina · 08/01/2021 13:41

Not great news for Boris. Must try harder. Remember you can't afford to piss these folks off.

Of course he can. They have been voting Tory forever and will continue to do so, until the sea rises and swallows them. I looked up one constituency and apart from a Liberal MP once back in the early 1900s it had always had Tory MPs.

Classic though - no one took responsibility but a policeman on a bicycle (back to the 1950a) and some local villages - one at least who voted Remain.

Peregrina · 08/01/2021 13:43

Johnson probably deserves half a brownie point for not doing a Cameron and cutting and running on 2nd January.

DGRossetti · 08/01/2021 13:46

@Peregrina

Johnson probably deserves half a brownie point for not doing a Cameron and cutting and running on 2nd January.
I suspect he wants his picture taken with another POTUS. Not quite sure it's a mutual sentiment.

Also he has to ensure Gove is toast before he resigns. Remember Yes [Prime]Minister was merely a thinly veiled documentary ... why did the party leader hang on so long ?

DGRossetti · 08/01/2021 14:10

So according to the prophecies of Mogg, this is the first year of 50 before we see the benefits ?

Have I misquoted him ?

Whenwillow · 08/01/2021 14:12

I've just had a phone conversation with my mother in which she tried to convince me that 'poor Boris is just doing his best, and that he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't'.
She'll never stop voting Tory and I'm sure there are a lot like her.

SabrinaThwaite · 08/01/2021 14:18

@Whenwillow

I've just had a phone conversation with my mother in which she tried to convince me that 'poor Boris is just doing his best, and that he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't'. She'll never stop voting Tory and I'm sure there are a lot like her.
My mother says the same - interspersed with blaming the unions / civil servants / the NHS / the French for anything not going to plan.
DGRossetti · 08/01/2021 14:26

@Whenwillow

I've just had a phone conversation with my mother in which she tried to convince me that 'poor Boris is just doing his best, and that he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't'. She'll never stop voting Tory and I'm sure there are a lot like her.
cf. Trumpers.
ListeningQuietly · 08/01/2021 14:38

The people of Mersham got what they wanted surely
www.kentonline.co.uk/kent/news/live-eu-referendum-results-97758/

DGRossetti · 08/01/2021 14:48

[quote ListeningQuietly]The people of Mersham got what they wanted surely
www.kentonline.co.uk/kent/news/live-eu-referendum-results-97758/[/quote]
The temptation to knock up some cheerful pro-Brexit leaflets with some choice quotes to reassure the villagers is almost too much to resist.

How would they feel with a leaflet with a grinning Gove, and beaming Boris, saying how brilliant it is to be on this 50 year journey of excitement (JRM) and don't they wish they were 21 again (IDS).

If nothing else it would be interesting to see if Brexiteers were willing to condemn a pro-Brexit leaflet as trolling ....

I think lockdown may be getting to me.

AuldAlliance · 08/01/2021 15:04

www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/08/stuck-lorry-drivers-calais-effects-brexit-eurotunnel

Blinding sunlight on them there uplands.

OchonAgusOchonO · 08/01/2021 15:12
“I think they are picking on the English trucks maybe,” he said, as there was nothing wrong with the cheese. “Just missing paperwork.” Until it arrived, he would not be free to go.

Those mean French, picking on the poor english truck drivers.

OchonAgusOchonO · 08/01/2021 15:13
On the other side of the channel, the UK has delayed the imposition of Brexit checks for six months: some of the lorry parks are not ready, nor is business, as the Brexit deal was only sealed on Christmas Eve.

My question on this is why has no other country challenged the UK's lack of compliance with WTO trading rules?

Peregrina · 08/01/2021 15:26

I myself make a distinction between those voting Leave in 2016 who genuinely hoped that it would enable more money to be spent on the NHS, even though they were naive. I might also include those who thought we would have an EEA type arrangement. No one was talking of Leaving the single Market, remember?

I have zero sympathy for those who supported the Tories in 2019 when they knew that Johnson was a liar and a cheat, who had taken the whip from long standing Tory members who didn't agree with him and who prorogued Parliament illegally. Then they are surprised when they are betrayed. Boo hoo.

Ashford voted Liberal in 1929, other than that it's always been Tory, now represented by Damian Green with a 24,000 majority, so they really did get what they wanted.

DGRossetti · 08/01/2021 15:26

Those mean French, picking on the poor English truck drivers.

As an Italian I fear French bureaucracy. DF never had any problems though.

Peregrina · 08/01/2021 15:30

fear French bureaucracy

The clue is in the word.
Some times though, it can be quite efficient.

ListeningQuietly · 08/01/2021 15:31

there was nothing wrong with the cheese. “Just missing paperwork.” Which means there was something SIGNIFICANTLY wrong with the cheese - it was not compliant with the rules.
its REALLY REALLY simple
If you are trading across a customs border
fill out the sodding Customs paperwork

On the other side of the channel, the UK has delayed the imposition of Brexit checks for six months
Which will cause UK traders a massive headache if they are part of any rules of origin supply chain

but, to quote the Prime Minister
fuck business

DGRossetti · 08/01/2021 15:31

My question on this is why has no other country challenged the UK's lack of compliance with WTO trading rules?

Because it would make them look unreasonable, and allow the UK to play the "poor us, we're still getting used to it card".

Also things might be different in a months time.

Much better to wait, record what's happening, and then bring a megasuit that is impossible to wriggle out of.

At this stage of the game, I'd happily believe that the UK snooping services are being placed at the disposal of Trump so that his real coup goes ahead, having learned from the mistakes of Wednesday.

The clouds are still dark. Where will they settle ?

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