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Westministenders: Where's my milk and cheese?

999 replies

RedToothBrush · 06/01/2021 23:47

The 'smooth' exit from transition now leads to a million and one little things that you can't get hold of or took completely for granted.

Why is sainsbury in NI selling spa milk? Why can't you get hold of your favourite food stuff?

Its a slow strangulation of the country.

In which you get to learn all about the merits of the EU and what a donkey Johnson really is.

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Peregrina · 15/01/2021 16:18

The poem made me laugh. Got to take comfort from small things.

DrBlackbird · 15/01/2021 16:44

Overall vibe across my networks is not at all good for Starmer. He's been well shafted with the speedy news that workers rights have become a "nice to have"

I had such hopes for Starmer, but it's the hope that kills you.

Starmer insisting on Labour supporting the trade agreement was disappointing in its honourable-intentions-but-lack-of-strategy perspective. Maybe he was damned if he did and damned if he didn't, but he's now left the door open for Labour to be more criticised by the MSM for supporting the bill than the Tories ever will and you'd think he would have known this by now.

DGRossetti · 15/01/2021 16:48

Starmer insisting on Labour supporting the trade agreement was disappointing in its honourable-intentions-but-lack-of-strategy perspective. Maybe he was damned if he did and damned if he didn't, but he's now left the door open for Labour to be more criticised by the MSM for supporting the bill than the Tories ever will and you'd think he would have known this by now.

Every worker that gets shafted by Tory Brexit is going to ask where the fuck the party that was supposed to protect them got to during Brexit.

We - and the Americans - appear to have drifted into the bizarre world where you can get your opponents to do all your dirty work while you sail on picking up the votes.

That's not leading the way to improved stable governance. That's leading the way to chaotic and violent protest.

ListeningQuietly · 15/01/2021 16:55

Every worker that gets shafted by Tory Brexit is going to ask where the fuck the party that was supposed to protect them got to during Brexit.
THIS

Labour and the Libdems have utterly utterly messed up.

NOBODY represents the working class
NOBODY represents business and trade
NOBODY represents academics and learners
NOBODY represents visitors and arrivals in the country
NOBODY represents the disabled
NOBODY represents the young
NOBODY represents working women

DGRossetti · 15/01/2021 17:01

At least the Brexit flying monkeys appear to have found gainful employment elsewhere.

Is this the first full day without any Brexiteers popping in to tell us to STFU ?

I'm not yet going to hunt them down and dispense both barrels of the shit cannon. Not yet. But I haven't even started yet. And yes, I really don't give a shit how that sounds after four and a half fucking years of being abused and treated like a fucking idiot by the fucking idiots that voted for this.

Peregrina · 15/01/2021 17:02

NOBODY represents - but still the wretched people get voted in.

RedToothBrush · 15/01/2021 17:17

@ListeningQuietly

Every worker that gets shafted by Tory Brexit is going to ask where the fuck the party that was supposed to protect them got to during Brexit. THIS

Labour and the Libdems have utterly utterly messed up.

NOBODY represents the working class
NOBODY represents business and trade
NOBODY represents academics and learners
NOBODY represents visitors and arrivals in the country
NOBODY represents the disabled
NOBODY represents the young
NOBODY represents working women

nods sagely

They have completely forgotten their misson statement and purpose...

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RedToothBrush · 15/01/2021 17:19

@DGRossetti

At least the Brexit flying monkeys appear to have found gainful employment elsewhere.

Is this the first full day without any Brexiteers popping in to tell us to STFU ?

I'm not yet going to hunt them down and dispense both barrels of the shit cannon. Not yet. But I haven't even started yet. And yes, I really don't give a shit how that sounds after four and a half fucking years of being abused and treated like a fucking idiot by the fucking idiots that voted for this.

I have run out of patience for fuckwits of all persuasions. It does have to be said. I blame home schooling.
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Shrillharridan · 15/01/2021 17:26

YES
I held court in the kitchen this morning.
WHY can't Labour stand up and say "THIS is what we believe, THIS is what we stand for, THIS is who we represent and any racist, xenophobic leave voters can take their votes elsewhere.
Poor ds1 looked a bit scared 😨
I may have been shrieking a bit

mrslaughan · 15/01/2021 17:36

I have been known to become a bit shrill through Brexit and Covid...... also my language has deteriorated terribly.

For the first time in my time in the UK - I would get on a plane tomorrow and not turn back. I have been unhappy , I have been depressed and I have struggled..... I have never had an overwhelming sense of wanting to FLEE......

mrslaughan · 15/01/2021 17:38

DGR - I think you are right about the London property market - esp with the financial services community not having a deal and all that trading moving to Europe

DGRossetti · 15/01/2021 17:39

For the first time in my time in the UK - I would get on a plane tomorrow and not turn back. I have been unhappy , I have been depressed and I have struggled..... I have never had an overwhelming sense of wanting to FLEE......

My DF came here in 1962 and made it work. It would be an insult if I bailed (not that it's an option).

TatianaBis · 15/01/2021 17:53

@mrslaughan

I have been known to become a bit shrill through Brexit and Covid...... also my language has deteriorated terribly.

For the first time in my time in the UK - I would get on a plane tomorrow and not turn back. I have been unhappy , I have been depressed and I have struggled..... I have never had an overwhelming sense of wanting to FLEE......

A friend of mine’s husband was offered a job in Australia over Christmas. They’ve decided to fuck it and go.

Another friend of mine has moved to Provence.

I wish I was going too.

ListeningQuietly · 15/01/2021 18:25

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55680315
HMRC estimates the additional cost to UK business of bog-standard customs declarations alone at £7bn.

When buyers and sellers want to trade, they will find a way, but significant additional cost and complexity is here to stay.

I TOLD YOU SO

pointythings · 15/01/2021 18:36

The scandal that brought down the Dutch government was inevitable. This was always going to happen - and yes, there was a strong racist element to it.

However, the Dutch government have been paying reparations to the victimised parents since 2019, long before this report came out. That includes repaying the money taken, plus compensation. Victim support has been put in place and further investigation is ongoing into those hardest hit, for whom the existing compensation scheme is deemed insufficient (people have lost their homes, suffered mental ill health and relationship breakdowns).

At least the Dutch government are taking this seriously, and have been since before the shit officially hit the fan. The Windrush victims by contrast have not fared so well.

It is absolutely right that the government resigned. Can you see the Tories ever doing the right thing?

Off to register to vote in the elections again. And as an aside, I have just booked my first COVID jab for this Thursday. Despite having had the week from Hell, I feel privileged to be working for the NHS because 1) I'm getting the jab early and 2) the Hell has been magicking three additional COVID wards out of the ground with no notice. And we're bloody doing it.

Shrillharridan · 15/01/2021 18:39

You are a legend pointy
💜

pointythings · 15/01/2021 18:45

shrillharridan first ward opens Monday, taking patients Tuesday. 6 days from startup. This is why I do project management - it's better than the biggest rollercoaster in the world.

TonMoulin · 15/01/2021 20:37

@mrslaughan

I have been known to become a bit shrill through Brexit and Covid...... also my language has deteriorated terribly.

For the first time in my time in the UK - I would get on a plane tomorrow and not turn back. I have been unhappy , I have been depressed and I have struggled..... I have never had an overwhelming sense of wanting to FLEE......

Same here.

If dcs hadn’t been in the middle of GCSE and A levels, I would have left a few years ago.

mrslaughan · 15/01/2021 20:50

@TonMoulin my eldest is also in the middle of GCSE's - plus where would I go? Back to NZ - which on the surface sounds fab..... but then reality sets in - the reality is there are no jobs for DH there - so we are stuck.

I did joke with DH we could hire a house somewhere in Europe - Ibiza, Greece .....one financially that's not a possibility (it's free to dream) abs secondly- we no longer can live there......

So - trapped. It's not a nice feeling. But I try and tell myself the positives.....

SwedishEdith · 15/01/2021 21:06

Quite if you click the link. Rutte is even eating an apple as he rides his bike.

Peter Spiegel
@SpiegelPeter
A very Dutch scandal. Prime minister rides his bike to meet the king to resign...forcing snap elections, which will be held exactly the same date the regular general elections were scheduled to be held. And the Dutch PM's party is almost certain to win. #NothingToSeeHere

twitter.com/SpiegelPeter/status/1350116779281027072?s=20

SwedishEdith · 15/01/2021 21:07

*interesting

Vellinbracelet · 15/01/2021 21:18

Being Welsh I have nowhere to go Hmm

MayYouLiveInInterestingTimes · 15/01/2021 22:34

Maybe he was damned if he did and damned if he didn't, but he's now left the door open for Labour to be more criticised by the MSM

He was damned either way. Can't you see, Tories and Boris have control over communications and the narrative? It does not matter which way he jumped, Boris had him either way.

As for Labour's abandonment of the all they were supposed to represent, it happened under Blair. Whoever said a few pages ago that the rot goes back much further than the Tory government was right. Tory-light Blair did huge damage to people's conceptions of what the left could be, should be and was. Then we actually got Corbyn in charge, a real socialist providing real policies that did all the things we needed: and I knew working class older people, who had grown up in a far more socialist state years ago, dismiss him as a "communist".

Starmer is no more successful than Corbyn at changing that issue with media and communications. After the combined Brexit disaster and election defeat, sold with all that gubbins as the worst defeat ever, blah blah blah as if MP representation in the Commons ever really means anything about the state of minds in Britain, the entire Left is acting as if it has no future and nothing to offer any more.

At risk of sounding grandiose, Britain has never needed the left so much, not since WW1 (makes a change from all the 'since WW2' tropes coming out). I hope they pull themselves together, ditch the stupid ideologies and go back to basics - policies and practicals. But the first thing they need to learn about is communications, and to stop giving up so easily.

RedToothBrush · 16/01/2021 03:17

Did you hear the one about the MyPillow CEO giving Trumps notes on how to carry out a 5th Column attack and stay President?

No i know im posting at 3am... But yes you did read that right.

I think i need more sleep.

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borntobequiet · 16/01/2021 03:43

You and me both Red. I was woken by very noisy wind and rain and the cat knocking my glass of water off the bedside table. (She thinks it’s hers and gets her head stuck if the level is low.)